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tokaok · 03-24-2004, 01:27 AM

well i saw this last week and i must say i really liked it. its a big departure from past kevin smith films(more serious & mainstream).

but the dialog is still very much so kevin smith. ill also have to agree that this is prob bens best performance, havent seen him act since well "good will hunting" to be honest.

Ill come by later and do a more thorough review

but for now i give a nice 3/5 stars(this ranks worth paying in my books)

Stare At The Sun · 03-24-2004, 01:32 AM

Not to ask a really stupid question, but is it in theaters, is it on DVD, what's goin on here?

I can't keep up with it all anymore. But i am a big Kevin smith fan, i own all his movies, including vulgar. So, i'm looking forward to seein it..

Averett · 03-24-2004, 04:02 AM

I really want to see this. I think it looks cute.

I think it gets released on Friday to theaters. tokaok may have seen a sneak preview.

tokaok · 03-24-2004, 04:49 AM

sry yes its in theathres, and i happen to work in one of the largest in north america. so we kinda get alot of sneaks heres.

Kostya · 03-24-2004, 05:32 AM

I'm sure it's at least as good as 'Gigli'...

Kevin, why why why have you gone insane!?

One by one, my favourite film makers go crazy...

Lucas the Phantom Menace, Scorsese and Gangs of New York...

I can only assume it is part of some gigantic conspiracy to lower the quality of films in general to make them more profitable...

losthellhound · 03-24-2004, 07:48 AM

Jersey girl will rock.. We've been waiting for it for ages, and it won't be anything like Gigli

Spoiler: JLo dies in the first 12 minutes

thats how good it will be

Bill O'Rights · 03-24-2004, 08:33 AM

It's got Liv Tyler. It's gotta be worth a look just for that, if nothing else.

quadro2000 · 03-24-2004, 10:11 AM

I saw a sneak preview of it two weeks ago. I'm a big Kevin Smith fan but I was able to watch this movie on its own merits, without comparing it to any of his other flicks, which is good since it's very different.

My honest opinion on it is that it's a mediocre movie. It has a pretty good plotline and earnest performances from all involved, but overall, it just tries too hard to be sentimental.

The dialogue IS still "Kevin Smith," which tokaok mentioned as a good thing, but I think it's a bad thing. A lot of the lines - especially Liv Tyler's - sound forced. They don't all sound to me like things that people would say.

Ben Affleck does a very good job (I also think he tries too hard in some places also). Jennifer Lopez is only in the first 15 minutes of the movie and she is also very good. The movie isn't about her at all, so in a way, I'm glad Gigli bombed, otherwise they may have tried to market it as a Jen-and-Ben movie, which it isn't.

The best performances in the movie are by George Carlin as Ben's dad and Racquel Castro, who plays Ben's daughter. She's a joy to watch. Carlin shows a side of him I've never seen before; a very serious and sentimental side, and it was his character I felt was the most realistic.

Definitely go see it. I seem to be in the minority so far, thinking it's mediocre.

quadro2000 · 03-24-2004, 12:33 PM

And BTW, here's why I didn't post my thoughts on Kevin Smith's website. He's not very good at taking criticism.

Linky

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I know it's the right of all 'net surfers to be far more outspoken and negative than they've dare be in real life, but can some of you reign it in this week?
I like reading this board. I don't necessarily read it just to see positive stuff, but I damn skippy don't read it to come across the "I'm entitled to my opinion" crap some folks feel the need to splooge. You didn't like "Yes, Dear"? Keep it to yourself for the next few days, wouldja? You hate Kilborn? Save your bile 'til Saturday. And for the love of Christ, let's leave any info about Rotten Tomatoes off the board 'til Monday. I've still got four more days of hardcore press to get through, and while I'm all for both sides of an issue, I'd rather wait to read the boo-hoo bullshit 'til after we open.

In an effort to help this along, here's some "Jersey Girl" perspective for ya'll...

1) The film's not gonna be a critical hit. It's an extremely sentimental film, and most critics don't like sentiment. Don't expect big, critical kudos this time around (in fact, we may be less well-reviewed than we were on "Strike Back"). The NY Times is gonna shred the flick. LA Times too, I'll bet. EW probably ain't gonna be onboard.

2) These are the movies that are DEFINITELY going to make more than us at the box office this weekend: Dawn of the Dead, The Passion of the Christ, Scooby Doo 2, The Ladykillers, Starsky and Hutch. These are the movies that are PROBABLY gonna make more than us at the box office this weekend: Taking Lives, Secret Window, Hidalgo, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Acccept it.

3) A killer opening number would be nice, but isn't necessary. We're only opening on 1600 screens this weekend, then going 2000 the weekend after. What we're looking for is longevity: audience word-of-mouth and solid numbers for a few weeks in a row. We've gotten shit-loads of press hits in advance of Friday, and the TV spots are all over the place. And while we won't have many of the critics on our side, if the movie plays as well with audiences as it has been playing in test, marketing, and awareness screenings over the course of the last year, we should glide along nicely on strong word-of-mouth. There's nothing else like it at the box office for the next few weeks, so that's good too.

4) Being contrary for the sake of being contrary (or "honest") is something I'll normally indulge, but this week, give me a break, alright? I mean, shit - we've gotten this board down to an asshole-free zone, thanks to all the protocols we've put in place this last year. Don't be the worst kind of asshole: the fan who's "keeping it real". If you're a fan, do me a favor and hold off on the "Why's Kevin doing all these shitty shows?" and "I'm really disappointed in this or that appearance" 'til after I get through this already intimidating uphill battle of trying to open this movie in the wake of "Gigli" and "Hurricane Bennifer". We've really been able to turn shit around for the last month, and my fingers are crossed for our theatrical life, so it sucks to come here - my home - and find T.P.'s* spouting off. I'm certainly not asking for you folks to blow sunshine up my ass; not at all. All I'm asking for is a little common courtesy: if you're not gonna say something nice, don't say anything at all... 'less you're looking to get banned.

* T.P. is the brother of Rod Tidwell, Cuba Gooding's character in "Jerry Maguire." T.P. was the constant voice of dissension, who liked to "Keep it real."

World's King · 03-24-2004, 01:50 PM

George Carlin is in it. How can you go wrong?

Kaos · 03-24-2004, 02:23 PM

Honestly, I don't care about the Bennifer effect this movie may be experiencing. I've seen the trailers and commercials, and this movie just doesn't appeal to me. Not because it's not another Jay and Silent Bob fest, but because the story doesn't seem interesting.

The only reason I would see it is for George Carlin, and only when I can rent the DVD, on cheap rental night.

Vales419 · 03-26-2004, 02:16 PM

My wife and I are planning to go see it this weekend.

ALL HAIL KEVIN SMITH!!!!

V.

wrongfullyaccuzd · 03-30-2004, 01:00 AM

I'm a big Kevin Smith fan and while it certainly was a departure from his normal stuff, there were still some Smithian subtleties that I enjoyed. Overall, I thought it was a pretty good movie, for what it was, and would recommend it to anyone.

03-30-2004, 11:07 AM

I'm a big fan of Kevin Smith's and I thought this movie was up there with his other films, quality-wise. Its a different style, but he pulls it off well, without losing his trademark wit and reality.

I'm not a huge Ben Affleck fan and have never considered him a terribly good actor, but I must say he was quite amazing in this one. I was very impressed.

Overall, its worth seeing, just because its nice to see Kevin Smith trying his hand at something different and still succeeding.

Jadey · 03-30-2004, 09:55 PM

Well, I went into this movie thinking it was gonna be a big "chick flick" but hoping for the best. But it wasn't. It was actually pretty good. It still has the Kevin Smith feel even though it's a departure from the usual subject matter.

I'd recommend it.

Anomaly_ · 03-30-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by quadro2000

The dialogue IS still "Kevin Smith," which tokaok mentioned as a good thing, but I think it's a bad thing. A lot of the lines - especially Liv Tyler's - sound forced. They don't all sound to me like things that people would say.

Yes! I think the dialogue in all of his movies sounds horribly artificial. While I don't particularly dislike his movies, I don't understand why people praise his writing so much. The characters sound like they're trying to squeeze too many words out of each breath and it just becomes distracting.

MahlerIsGod · 09-16-2004, 05:36 PM

I am a rather large Kevin Smith fan myself and I was hugely disappointed by this movie. It was entirely formulaic and flat. There were moments of Kevin Smith greatness but they were few and far between. For me, at least, George Carlin (not the kid) stole the show. That was his best role to date. This is no where near the movie that Chasing Amy or Clerks was.

P.S. Did anybody else find hugely disconcerting to hear Bruce Springsteen's "My City Of Ruins" as one of the many (too many) musical montages. I don't know if I am being overly sensitive but I thought that was.....inappropriate.

Kostya · 09-17-2004, 04:12 AM

As we all know, my favourite part was when Spoiler: JLo died and I yelled HUZZAH only to be given some harsh looks by people in the cinema. Wankers.

This movie was what Cleveland refered to the Spanish referring to as 'El Terrible'...

Boring, flat, totally lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever...

Times like these I wish a huge celestial object to strike Kevin and George Lucas, in the balls...

heccubusiv · 09-19-2004, 04:18 PM

typical chick flick, I really did not like the movie at all but I was expecting a typical kevin smith movie. Good way to make money, but overal one of the worst movies I have seen.

Kostya · 09-21-2004, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by heccubusiv

typical chick flick, I really did not like the movie at all but I was expecting a typical kevin smith movie. Good way to make money, but overal one of the worst movies I have seen.

Glad you hated it...

03-24-2004, 01:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
tokaok Crazy Location: Canada	jersey girl well i saw this last week and i must say i really liked it. its a big departure from past kevin smith films(more serious & mainstream). but the dialog is still very much so kevin smith. ill also have to agree that this is prob bens best performance, havent seen him act since well "good will hunting" to be honest. Ill come by later and do a more thorough review but for now i give a nice 3/5 stars(this ranks worth paying in my books)

03-24-2004, 04:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Averett Is In Love Location: I'm workin' on it	I really want to see this. I think it looks cute. I think it gets released on Friday to theaters. tokaok may have seen a sneak preview. __________________ Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.

03-24-2004, 07:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
losthellhound Thats MR. Muffin Face now Location: Everywhere work sends me	Jersey girl will rock.. We've been waiting for it for ages, and it won't be anything like Gigli Spoiler: JLo dies in the first 12 minutes thats how good it will be __________________ "Life is possible only with illusions. And so, the question for the science of mental health must become an absolutely new and revolutionary one, yet one that reflects the essence of the human condition: On what level of illusion does one live?" -- Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death

03-24-2004, 08:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	It's got Liv Tyler. It's gotta be worth a look just for that, if nothing else. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

03-24-2004, 10:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
quadro2000 All Possibility, Made Of Custard Location: New York, NY	I saw a sneak preview of it two weeks ago. I'm a big Kevin Smith fan but I was able to watch this movie on its own merits, without comparing it to any of his other flicks, which is good since it's very different. My honest opinion on it is that it's a mediocre movie. It has a pretty good plotline and earnest performances from all involved, but overall, it just tries too hard to be sentimental. The dialogue IS still "Kevin Smith," which tokaok mentioned as a good thing, but I think it's a bad thing. A lot of the lines - especially Liv Tyler's - sound forced. They don't all sound to me like things that people would say. Ben Affleck does a very good job (I also think he tries too hard in some places also). Jennifer Lopez is only in the first 15 minutes of the movie and she is also very good. The movie isn't about her at all, so in a way, I'm glad Gigli bombed, otherwise they may have tried to market it as a Jen-and-Ben movie, which it isn't. The best performances in the movie are by George Carlin as Ben's dad and Racquel Castro, who plays Ben's daughter. She's a joy to watch. Carlin shows a side of him I've never seen before; a very serious and sentimental side, and it was his character I felt was the most realistic. Definitely go see it. I seem to be in the minority so far, thinking it's mediocre. __________________ You have to laugh at yourself...because you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't. - Emily Saliers

03-24-2004, 01:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	Not to ask a really stupid question, but is it in theaters, is it on DVD, what's goin on here? I can't keep up with it all anymore. But i am a big Kevin smith fan, i own all his movies, including vulgar. So, i'm looking forward to seein it..

03-24-2004, 04:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
tokaok Crazy Location: Canada	sry yes its in theathres, and i happen to work in one of the largest in north america. so we kinda get alot of sneaks heres.

03-24-2004, 05:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kostya Little known... Location: Brisbane, Australia	I'm sure it's at least as good as 'Gigli'... Kevin, why why why have you gone insane!? One by one, my favourite film makers go crazy... Lucas the Phantom Menace, Scorsese and Gangs of New York... I can only assume it is part of some gigantic conspiracy to lower the quality of films in general to make them more profitable...

03-24-2004, 01:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	George Carlin is in it. How can you go wrong? __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

03-24-2004, 02:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kaos Ssssssssss Location: Ontario	Honestly, I don't care about the Bennifer effect this movie may be experiencing. I've seen the trailers and commercials, and this movie just doesn't appeal to me. Not because it's not another Jay and Silent Bob fest, but because the story doesn't seem interesting. The only reason I would see it is for George Carlin, and only when I can rent the DVD, on cheap rental night.

03-26-2004, 02:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Vales419 Crazy Location: Purgatory	My wife and I are planning to go see it this weekend. ALL HAIL KEVIN SMITH!!!! V. __________________ "Here's ten bucks, bring me the head of Barry Manilow" --Dr. Denis Leary

03-30-2004, 01:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
wrongfullyaccuzd Addict Location: NoVA	I'm a big Kevin Smith fan and while it certainly was a departure from his normal stuff, there were still some Smithian subtleties that I enjoyed. Overall, I thought it was a pretty good movie, for what it was, and would recommend it to anyone.

03-30-2004, 11:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
Untitled Guest	I'm a big fan of Kevin Smith's and I thought this movie was up there with his other films, quality-wise. Its a different style, but he pulls it off well, without losing his trademark wit and reality. I'm not a huge Ben Affleck fan and have never considered him a terribly good actor, but I must say he was quite amazing in this one. I was very impressed. Overall, its worth seeing, just because its nice to see Kevin Smith trying his hand at something different and still succeeding.

03-30-2004, 09:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jadey This Space For Rent Location: Davenport, Iowa	Well, I went into this movie thinking it was gonna be a big "chick flick" but hoping for the best. But it wasn't. It was actually pretty good. It still has the Kevin Smith feel even though it's a departure from the usual subject matter. I'd recommend it.

09-16-2004, 05:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
MahlerIsGod At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done Location: London/Elysium	I am a rather large Kevin Smith fan myself and I was hugely disappointed by this movie. It was entirely formulaic and flat. There were moments of Kevin Smith greatness but they were few and far between. For me, at least, George Carlin (not the kid) stole the show. That was his best role to date. This is no where near the movie that Chasing Amy or Clerks was. P.S. Did anybody else find hugely disconcerting to hear Bruce Springsteen's "My City Of Ruins" as one of the many (too many) musical montages. I don't know if I am being overly sensitive but I thought that was.....inappropriate. __________________ "But a work of art is a conscious human effort that has to do with communication. It is that or its nothing. When an accident is applauded as a work of art, when a cult grows up around the deliciousness of inadvertent beauty, we are in the presence of the greatest decadence the West has known in its history."

09-17-2004, 04:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
Kostya Little known... Location: Brisbane, Australia	As we all know, my favourite part was when Spoiler: JLo died and I yelled HUZZAH only to be given some harsh looks by people in the cinema. Wankers. This movie was what Cleveland refered to the Spanish referring to as 'El Terrible'... Boring, flat, totally lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever... Times like these I wish a huge celestial object to strike Kevin and George Lucas, in the balls...

09-19-2004, 04:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
heccubusiv #1 Irish Fan Location: The Burgh	typical chick flick, I really did not like the movie at all but I was expecting a typical kevin smith movie. Good way to make money, but overal one of the worst movies I have seen. __________________ Fuck Ohio