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Old 01-29-2004, 11:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BRAVO Channel= GAY TV

Now I have nothing against Gay people but I'm seriously getting a little pissed off at seeing commercials for this Queer Eye show, and now Bravo is introducing a show that is nothing but Gay weddings.....................WTF!!

If any of you men who watch this Queer Eyes show need dressing tips from five gay men...well.......YOU'RE NOT A MAN!!

WTF is happening in this world?? Did I miss a memo??

I would love to see those five light in the loafers marys come knocking on my door.....It would be their last episode

As someone posted awhile back ago .....the pussification of America has got to end!

Jeeeeezusssss....a show thats only about Gay Weddings....WTF??

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Old 01-30-2004, 02:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, there's obviously an audience for it, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten past the pilot episode.

IMHO, Bravo is overdoing the advertising for Queer Eye, but it's their huge claim to an audience. I mean Fox bombards everyone and everything with endless stupid American Idol, Joe Millionaire, and Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire, but they do it because they have an audience and they can make money.

It's marketing at its finest!
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh man. I saw my first episode of Queer Eye the other day, and I was fascinated! I mean, the ringleader is so gay, its like... he lives the stereotype. I am not sure where I am going with this, but its a good show.. sort of.

Ahh shit...

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Old 01-30-2004, 07:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Might want to watch what you say...

Alot of network over advertise shows that might annoy you. For starters SPIKE had been over advertising the John Henson show over and over and even does it during other shows, HELL it even advertise it during the JH Show!!! It pisses me off.

If you don't like the content of the advertisement that's fine, hate it, love it, like it, rape it, do whatever you want to do with it but don't be putting down other people just because a network chose to advertise a particular show far too many times. I don't hate John Henson simply because Spike had been advertising his show too much...
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Old 01-30-2004, 08:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think KeyserSoze has A LOT against gay people.

I hate bigots.
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Old 01-30-2004, 08:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think KeyserSoze has A LOT against gay people.

I hate bigots.
I think you don't know me.

It's the TV shows that are pissing me off because I feel we don't need this forced down our throat by television, along with all these stupid reality shows.

What happened to family values and morals in this country??

And at least learn to spell BIGGOT before you call someone it.
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Old 01-30-2004, 09:09 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I can foresee trouble here. Let's keep the derogatory comments regarding sexual orientation out of here. Hating the show is one thing, espousing a hatred of gays in general is a no-no, and will not be condoned.

I'll check back later. Now, play nice.
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I know Jeff Gaspin head of NBC Cable and Bravo. Nice man.

As far as BIGOTS are concerned (yes that's the correct spelling)

your morals and such isn't compromised. you have plenty of other channels to watch.
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think those guys on queer eye have some great style, but are a bit over the top at times. Nevertheless, the show is still entertaining. The repetition of any commercial annoys me, regardless of the content.

The rise in popularity of "gay tv" shows might be attributed to our growing intrigue of a lifestyle and a culture that was taboo not very long ago.
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Old 01-30-2004, 01:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I always felt that this is kinda like the 70's, where there was a glut of 'black' shows (The Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Good Times, etc), catering to an audience that didn't have that much representation on TeeVee. Unfortunately, or fortunately, your mileage may vary, this tends to drive that TV segment into the dirt.
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Old 01-30-2004, 01:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Which brings me to another question... where are the gay men on TFP? We have everything else; straight men, straight women, bi women, bi men (I've noticed posts by two, not sure if they stuck around this place), lesbian women, at least one cross-dresser... but no gay men?

I wonder what TFP could do to better welcome gays. The more perspectives on issues the better!

/ my wife and I love QE/SG
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Old 01-30-2004, 03:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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me and my roommate (both straight men) WISH that we could get someone in to tell us what to do with our horribly unorganized apartment

queer eye seemed to fit after we watched an episode. I've got nothing against gays, and those guy shave some pretty good taste!

If they showed up at my door i'd be like "is this free? COME ON IN "
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Old 01-30-2004, 09:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't mind Queer Eye because they're gay, but rather their fashion sense.

Carson? I think his name is....The over the top blonde guy was wearing a dark brown corduroy jacket over a light purple shirt with a white tie and red stripped pants. Certainly not the first time I've noticed this, but it seems funny that I remember that outfit so vividly....

It just struck me as odd that a show that's about dressing men up fashionably is partially hosted by a man who seems to get all clothes from the Krusty the Clown catalog.

Are we supposed to dress this way? I like to look nice, but I think I'll stick to dress casual rather than Big Top chic.
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Old 01-30-2004, 09:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have no problem with the show or gay people. I think those guys are funny as hell. I have only seen it a few times but each time it was pure hilarity.
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Old 01-31-2004, 03:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The good thing about television is that if you don't like something, you can CHANGE the channel! While I don't watch Bravo unless I see a good movie is on, I know that there are probably tons of people that watch it religiously, why shouldn't they have a channel they like too?
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Old 01-31-2004, 08:41 AM   #16 (permalink)
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another thing I've always had a problem with is labelling a channel as pointing to a specific demographic. Like for example, Lifetime - Television for Women. Does that mean that ONLY women will like that channel, that ALL women should watch that channel. That if a man likes a show on that channel, he secretely desires to be a woman? I just think it's stupid. Like when there were talks about making a 'gay' channel. That's saying that gays can't find any shows on tv they like. I call shennagins on that.
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Old 01-31-2004, 08:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think you don't know me.

It's the TV shows that are pissing me off because I feel we don't need this forced down our throat by television, along with all these stupid reality shows.

What happened to family values and morals in this country??

And at least learn to spell BIGGOT before you call someone it.
It is spelled BIGOT.

And I don't know you, but I feel you have a serious problem with gay people. You are insinuating that being gay is amoral and against family values. I disagree on both accords.
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Old 01-31-2004, 10:08 AM   #18 (permalink)
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^plus there are so many double standards when saying it's against "family values." I could go on and on about things against "family values" that are a part of today's society. Lets face it, the term family values has become somewhat skewed in the current society we live in. Why not talk about why the divorce rate is so high now, pornography, the ever-prevalence of slander and curse words in song lyrics these days, not being able to watch network tv without seeing "suggestive" material, kids playing video games where the object is to run around stealing cars and kill people, I mean the list goes on and on.

Lets just say it has nothing to do with "family values," it's the fact that there are people who just plain don't agree with the lifestyle. That's fine, you don't have to agree with them, it's just when you practice hate towards a group when it gets to be a bad situation.
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Old 01-31-2004, 10:13 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Lets face it, the term family values has become somewhat skewed in the current society we live in.
I have yet to find a clear definition of the term. It appears to be nothing more than a vague buzzword to which one attaches whatever specific meaning fits for them.
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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[B] Now I have nothing against Gay people but
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If any of you men who watch this Queer Eyes show need dressing tips from five gay men...well.......YOU'RE NOT A MAN!!
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I would love to see those five light in the loafers marys come knocking on my door.....It would be their last episode
Might want to amend your original statement. Your other sentiments run contrary.

And what exactly would you do if the "five light in the loafer marys" came to your door? I'm curious to know.
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Old 01-31-2004, 05:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I love this show.
I also think Bravo is a good channel. (I've programmed it into my favorites)

If you don't like it, don't watch it. (I don't watch MTV).
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Old 01-31-2004, 08:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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this reminds me of that little segment on familt guy, when they're watching tv, and the commercial for Lifetime (i'm pretty sure it's lifetime) comes on and says "Lifetime - Television for idiots"

Well, love it or hate it, if there's a big enough audience, it'll stay around.
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Old 02-02-2004, 12:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So what if the Bravo show is beginning to show more shows with homosexual themes? Is it so horrible that from the tons of channels you can get on your TV, there is one that caters to a specific demographic? Homosexuals are underrepresented in American media and I feel that it is beneficial that they get some more TV time. Is that fair? When you consider how much programming is geared towards the white, heterosexual, middle class... a portion of programming on one small cable channel is not something to get worked up about.

Is QE over advertised? Sure, but not anymore than any other newly popular TV show.
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Jizzosh is right, it's all about marketing and it's being realized that there is a large gay population that spends money like everyone else.
There will be closed minded people like our friend KeyserSoze who are upset by homosexual programming...be it based on ignorant religious beliefs or fear of a repressed sexuality....but there were people opposed to having African Americans on TV also...and a lot of good that did.
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:51 AM   #24 (permalink)
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We seem to be bouncing around here between entertainment and politics. Let's try to keep it on the track of the entertainment value/aspect of "Gay TV", or this goes to the politics board. K?
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:32 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Sorry... there are how many fricken channels available to be watched? Well over 500 or so, no?

If you don't like it... don't watch it.

Period.

End of story.
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Old 02-03-2004, 11:40 PM   #26 (permalink)
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And the next rant should be about Showtime because of Queer as Folk and The L-Word, right?

I remember my grandmother compaining that NBC was the "Nigger Broadcasting Channel" because of Sanford and Son, and that was in an era where there only 4 or 5 channels in most markets and cable was mostly a "community antenna" for small but significant cities outside of a major metro area. Check back in 25 years from now and let's see what your opinion is.

In the 500-channel universe, a population as small as 1% can be enough of a market for a TV channel to pursue. Besides, you still have 499 channels to choose from. (I know, 500 channels and nothing is on.) And as a woman, I would like to stand up and say that Lifetime and the "disease of the moment" movies they specialize in all suck ass.
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:46 AM   #27 (permalink)
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yeah i see your point... I was not that bad at first but now all i see is stuff to do with homosexuality... so i see y our point but im not mad about it or anything... and sometimes I watch queer eye... It's funny sometimes
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Keyser isn't alone -- I also despise "Queer Eye" and other "gay shows" that do nothing but reinforce popular negative stereostypes. Will & Grace is at least entertaining, "Queer Eye" is just moronic (like 98% of all Television programs).
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Old 02-04-2004, 01:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bravo Channel has ' Inside the Actors Studio', that's one of the best shows on tv.
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Old 02-04-2004, 01:39 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The problem with Queer eye is not that it involves gays, but that in involves gays who seem to be picked for the degree to which they fit various stereotypes of what the population at large envisions when asked to think of a gay man. I mean, one can take anything to an annoying extreme, and that loudmouth simpering blonde fool has managed to distill everything that annoys out of homosexuality and is presenting it for public view. It's like he's the photonegative Andrew Dice Clay (who, at his worst could use a real smacking around too.)

It is true that there is a market for this, just as there is a market for Spike TV or SpeedTV or the Bass Fishing Network. I just wish they wouldn't run Queer Eye right after the West Wing so I wouldn't inadvertantly watch bits of it now and again.
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Can't you let the guy write his opinion instead of chapping his ass for it? Even if he did dislike gays, as long as he doesn't say it in a hateful way, who're any of you to say he's wrong?

And I think the show's pretty amusing. Though I wouldn't say we're overrun with gay shows. That and WIll and Grace are about the only ones I've ever seen.
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:49 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The only thing that might be a problem with these shows are that they create stereotypes of a certain group. I know a few gay people, and they are not the flambuoyant (sp?) people that are showed in Queer Eye and Will & Grace... Show like these, IMHO are trying to cash in by creating a humorous extreme side of these groups, creating stereotypes... that can't lead to a good thing..
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The only thing that might be a problem with these shows are that they create stereotypes of a certain group. I know a few gay people, and they are not the flambuoyant (sp?) people that are showed in Queer Eye and Will & Grace... Show like these, IMHO are trying to cash in by creating a humorous extreme side of these groups, creating stereotypes... that can't lead to a good thing..
Right, and shows NEVER do that with stereotypes of Blacks, Hispanics, Women....
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"Pussification of America"?

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