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Astrocloud 10-06-2003 04:26 AM

Which is Better -A Clockwork Orange or Fight Club
 
Which movie is better? Both movies include elements of rebellion and violence... What would you choose?

Derwood 10-06-2003 05:10 AM

I'm not a very big Stanley Kubrik fan, so I'm voting Fight Club. I think A Clockwork Orange is a terrific book, however.

Talo 10-06-2003 07:02 AM

I have to say A Clockwork Orange is a better movie.

I find what it says about politics and sociality to be a lot stronger than fight club. Fight club is however generally more entertaining and would appeal to a larger audience.

rogue49 10-06-2003 07:08 AM

A Clockwork Orange
classic

Solitude 10-06-2003 07:55 AM

I agree with Talo on this one. A Clockwork Orange is better, but the comparison is close. I feel that Clockwork deals with politics and society in general, where Fight Club is more of a personal struggle to cope with surroundings. They each have classic scenes and dialog. However, Clockwork stands out as having a longer lasting impression.

They're both worth owning a copy.

YKK 10-06-2003 08:51 AM

i think that the setting of fight club (social upheaval in the form of public attacks and pranks) is just that, a backdrop.. the story is not really much about it's setting than it is about one man's descent into madness.. i'm not a huge chuck palahniuk fan but i have read all his books to date, i believe.. i find his style extremely repetitive and a bit too quirky.. a clockwork orange, i've seen the movie quite a while ago and don't remember much of it, i've never read the book.. i'll have to assume the story is about what people say it is, and as such...

i don't think the two movies are comparable as they are of seperate themes and style (though both quite quirky and post-modernist, i think).. so i've had to refrain from voting..

^^

CSflim 10-06-2003 10:25 AM

OUCH! thats a tough one!
Thank god you provided more than two options! I simply had to vote for option 4 I'm afraid!

The problem is, normally when you are asked to choose between two of your all time favourite movies, you can simply respond with "apples and oranges", and your problem has been solved! You have managed to weasel out of answering a difficult question.

Unfortunately such a response cannot be given with these two movies, given that they are most definately classed in the same category.

If you held a gun to my head, I would have to say A Clockwork Orange, by a hair's breadth.
Kubrick is my all time favourite director.
but then again...fight club really did rock....

damnit!
Unfair question! It's like asking a mother which one of her children she loves the most!

I would however predict, that Fight Club will win this poll by quite a large amount. Fight club has a wider appeal (as Talo mentioned), and it is possible to enjoy fight club on a superficial level, without fully engaging with the material...I know many people who loved Fight Club, but, after discussions with them, I really don't believe that they understood it fully.
A Clockwork orange on the other hand, would be much more difficult to enjoy on this same "superficial" level. A full "in depth" understanding is required in order to get anything much out of it.

GSRIDER 10-06-2003 10:39 AM

Once you've seen Fight Club, there are no more surprizes. But Clockwork is timeless.

Mr. Spacemonkey 10-06-2003 12:14 PM

Stanley Kubrick may be a great director and A Clockwork Orange may be a classic but for me this question is easy, it's Fight Club all the way baby! Both were good films though.

I bet you could tell i was going to say Fight Club just by looking at my avatar and my username though.

World's King 10-06-2003 12:43 PM

Someone got beat to death with a giant penis in A Clockwork Orange.


How is that not the coolest movie ever?

zenmaster10665 10-06-2003 12:47 PM

Stanley Kubrick is amazing...but fight club was gripping, all in all...Clockwork Orange was groundbreaking but Fight Club kicks its arse!

anleja 10-06-2003 01:06 PM

A couple years ago a local movie theatre had a run of Stanley Kubrick movies. In one night we saw Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket for 4 bucks. I'd seen Clockwork Orange before, but on the big screen it creeped the hell out of me. The movie is like a bad acid trip (in a good way).

Both movies are great, so I chose 4.

phukraut 10-06-2003 01:56 PM

fight club was entertaining. clockwork orange was disturbing. but i love them both.

brandon11983 10-06-2003 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Someone got beat to death with a giant penis in A Clockwork Orange.


How is that not the coolest movie ever?

yup. It is a truly brilliant movie. I still get chills when you see Alex's eyes at the beginning and end of that film.

B21 10-06-2003 04:56 PM

Is A Clockwork Orange good???

fuzzix 10-06-2003 06:00 PM

I think A Clockwork Orange was a better movie overall, there is something about it's atmosphere that I've never felt in another film...

boris 10-06-2003 07:53 PM

very frustrating to read about any comparison between these films.

clockwork is a masterpiece. fight club is a mind game

i can understand the uneducated film viewer attempting to compare the films, but only youth and inexperience lends to picking a sophmoric psychic romp over kubricks treatment of a wicked visionaries future.

docbungle 10-06-2003 09:12 PM

I would never compare the two, but since you have, I must tell you: A Clockwork Orange is true cinema, whereas Fight Club is simply a mind game. Not to take anything away from Fight Club; it is a great film and one of my favorites, but it cannot compete with films such as A Clockwork Orange, which explore themes much deeper and more profound than anything Fight Club can bring to the table.

Having said that, I have probably watched both films more than 20 times.

Xiangsu 10-07-2003 01:23 AM

Fight Club is a classic but it hasn't been around as long as a Clockwork Orange. Fight Club had a better ending, better dialogue, better actors, and it was overall, not by much, more entertaining IMHO. Fight Club was very entertaining and it did that without having to sacrifice the messages or themes they were trying to get acrossed. A Clockwork Orange does explore themes much deeper than Fight Club but in doing that kind of sacrifices some of its entertainment value. Another reason why is because I relate a little bit more with Fight Club, being stuck in that whole generation of men raised by women group. They are both great movies, but I went with Fight Club.

Astrocloud 10-07-2003 11:44 AM

Okay the margin of error (I am so completely in love with both movies that to even question which one is better brings me inner turmoil) is so high that it makes any answers to my poll irrelevant.

Oh well it was fun.

BTW I like em both, own both on dvd and have seen each countless times.

gremlinx8 10-07-2003 02:32 PM

While I enjoy both of these movies, I'm going to have to go with Fight Club. There's just something about it, and there are so many good lines/scenes. Maybe I just didn't "get" A Clockwork Orange.

dylanmarsh 10-07-2003 04:29 PM

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Gosh, I dunno. These movies are so good that it doesn't seem fair to have to pick one. I guess I'd have to give the edge to Fight Club because you can see ugly guys kick the shit out of Brad Pitt. There's nothing better than a pretty boy bleeding.

On the other hand, Kubrick's Orange is also great in its own right with the boys killing the upper class.

Still, though, Brad Pitt bleeding makes me smile.

Baldrick 10-07-2003 04:47 PM

No pun intended, but this is apples and oranges. You just can't compare the two based on their social commentary.

On just the films alone, without a doubt I'm partial to A Clockwork Orange. I really enjoyed Fight Club, but as others have said Kubrick made a masterpiece with Clockwork Orange.

maximusveritas 10-07-2003 05:37 PM

yep, Kubrick is the greatest director of all time and "A Clockwork Orange" is one of his best. I liked Fight Club but its still a notch below "A Clockwork Orange"

HeAtHeN 10-07-2003 08:32 PM

Clockwork Orange is amazing... one of the best movies ever made.

Fight Club is good.... but not in the same class as Kubrick's classic.

costello 10-07-2003 11:13 PM

A Clockwork Orange is so deep and i have learned much from it, and Fight Club is not even in the same league as it based on movies alone. dealing with the social commentary they are two different movies, so i just voted based on which is better on the whole

Porkchop 10-08-2003 02:59 AM

Like both movies yet for entertainment you have to say fight club really.
I remember years ago watching a dodgy vhs of clockwork. Being from uk the movie has only been out a few years legaly anyway.

Xiangsu 10-08-2003 12:39 PM

Just for the record, I would like to say that I think by the time David Fincher's career comes to an end he will be considered at least in the same league as Kubrick. I mean seriously, if you look at fight club there is not a scene in that movie that I couldn't make a picture of and put on my wall as art. Fight Club and Se7en were both masterpieces. Panic Room and The Game were both good. His only fault was Alien 3, but that was his first movie and he has more then made up for it.

CSflim 10-08-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xiangsu
Just for the record, I would like to say that I think by the time David Fincher's career comes to an end he will be considered at least in the same league as Kubrick. I mean seriously, if you look at fight club there is not a scene in that movie that I couldn't make a picture of and put on my wall as art. Fight Club and Se7en were both masterpieces. Panic Room and The Game were both good. His only fault was Alien 3, but that was his first movie and he has more then made up for it.
Whe it comes to who is the better director, there is absolutely no question about it: Kubrick is far superior to Fincher. They're not even in the same league...not to take away from Fincher, but Kubrick was (in my opinion) one of the greatest movie directors who ever livied.

Xiangsu 10-08-2003 06:32 PM

*2001: A Space Odyssey@
*Clockwork Orange, A@
Dr. Strangelove@
*Eyes Wide Shut@
*Full Metal Jacket@
Lolita (1962)@
*Shining, The@
Spartacus@

These are all the movies Kubrik has made, the ones with the asterics are the movies I've seen. I dont think Lolita looks good, same with Dr. Strange Love and Spartacus. He is down for two strikes in most peoples eyes. Lolita, from what I gather, is probably his worst movie. Dr. Strange Love doesn't look good to me, but I dont know for sure. Spartacus is supposed to be really bad too. David already has the talent, its just whether or not people will realize that and take Kubrick down from his pedestal.

hilbert25 10-08-2003 10:52 PM

A Clockwork orange was great, but perhaps since I'm in the target demographic, Fight Club beats it out because of how much easier it is to relate to and on the acting, effects, and music.

Part of the problem with A Clockwork Orange is the source material. The book is, in my humble opinion, pretentious, unrealistic crap. Anthony Burgess spent most of his time being way to proud of his language that he wrote a story with a completely contrived protagonist, especially taking into account his original ending.

Fight Club is a great comedy with and Chuck Palahniuk isn't nearly as pretentious.

lions20 10-09-2003 10:58 AM

Definitely Clockwork Orange.

niobius2 10-09-2003 11:48 AM

I haven't seen clock work orange, but fight club is a very good movie so i'm going to have to assume that fight club is better because i haven't seen clock work and so goes the circular logic

langer88 10-09-2003 02:03 PM

i picked clockwork orange. Not because I do not like fight club but simply for more personal reasons. I have been a big fan of chuck palahnuik for a long time and the book is also great, this has nothing to do with it. I think it is more about the frat boy culture it has inspired to quote and become experts of self destruction because they payed 10 bucks to see a film. This of course does nothing to make the Movie worse, but I went with my first reaction.

JimmyTheHutt 10-09-2003 02:12 PM

Both films are truly amazing, once you dig beneath the surface. However, Fight Club is made in such a way that its possible to ignore the subtext. A Clockwork Orange will not allow anyone who views it to escape from it. So I had to vote for A Clockwork Orange.

Viddi Well, Little Brother, Viddi Well...

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

G5_Todd 10-10-2003 07:40 AM

i hated clockwork orange......easy poll for me

Moobie 10-10-2003 07:57 AM

His name is Robert Paulsen.....

His name is Robert Paulsen.....

DownwardSpiral 10-11-2003 10:48 AM

I'm going with Fight Club on this one, I am nota big, big Kubrick fan as it is, and although I thought A Clockwork Orange was good, Fight Club was just that much better.

oberon 10-14-2003 12:55 PM

A Clockwork Orange. Real moral and ethical issues are brought up in this movie. Simply an excellent film. I recommend watching it at least two or three times. You should be able to see the issue Kubrick was trying to demonstrate.

Fight Club is stupid. So the guy lost his mind. Big deal.

oberon cowers at the onslaught of Fight Club fanboys :D

SupaPizzle 10-14-2003 08:25 PM

A Clockwork Orange. NO!! Fight Club. Wait, wait... ummmmmm...

*head explodes*

I love both of these films. For similar reasons and for different reasons. To compare the two, and have to chose one over the other would result in the above. Can't we all just get along!!


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