Which is Better -A Clockwork Orange or Fight Club
 

Which movie is better? Both movies include elements of rebellion and violence... What would you choose?

I'm not a very big Stanley Kubrik fan, so I'm voting Fight Club. I think A Clockwork Orange is a terrific book, however.

I have to say A Clockwork Orange is a better movie.

I find what it says about politics and sociality to be a lot stronger than fight club. Fight club is however generally more entertaining and would appeal to a larger audience.

A Clockwork Orange
classic

I agree with Talo on this one. A Clockwork Orange is better, but the comparison is close. I feel that Clockwork deals with politics and society in general, where Fight Club is more of a personal struggle to cope with surroundings. They each have classic scenes and dialog. However, Clockwork stands out as having a longer lasting impression.

They're both worth owning a copy.

i think that the setting of fight club (social upheaval in the form of public attacks and pranks) is just that, a backdrop.. the story is not really much about it's setting than it is about one man's descent into madness.. i'm not a huge chuck palahniuk fan but i have read all his books to date, i believe.. i find his style extremely repetitive and a bit too quirky.. a clockwork orange, i've seen the movie quite a while ago and don't remember much of it, i've never read the book.. i'll have to assume the story is about what people say it is, and as such...

i don't think the two movies are comparable as they are of seperate themes and style (though both quite quirky and post-modernist, i think).. so i've had to refrain from voting..

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OUCH! thats a tough one!
Thank god you provided more than two options! I simply had to vote for option 4 I'm afraid!

The problem is, normally when you are asked to choose between two of your all time favourite movies, you can simply respond with "apples and oranges", and your problem has been solved! You have managed to weasel out of answering a difficult question.

Unfortunately such a response cannot be given with these two movies, given that they are most definately classed in the same category.

If you held a gun to my head, I would have to say A Clockwork Orange, by a hair's breadth.
Kubrick is my all time favourite director.
but then again...fight club really did rock....

damnit!
Unfair question! It's like asking a mother which one of her children she loves the most!

I would however predict, that Fight Club will win this poll by quite a large amount. Fight club has a wider appeal (as Talo mentioned), and it is possible to enjoy fight club on a superficial level, without fully engaging with the material...I know many people who loved Fight Club, but, after discussions with them, I really don't believe that they understood it fully.
A Clockwork orange on the other hand, would be much more difficult to enjoy on this same "superficial" level. A full "in depth" understanding is required in order to get anything much out of it.

Once you've seen Fight Club, there are no more surprizes. But Clockwork is timeless.

Stanley Kubrick may be a great director and A Clockwork Orange may be a classic but for me this question is easy, it's Fight Club all the way baby! Both were good films though.

I bet you could tell i was going to say Fight Club just by looking at my avatar and my username though.

Someone got beat to death with a giant penis in A Clockwork Orange.


How is that not the coolest movie ever?

Stanley Kubrick is amazing...but fight club was gripping, all in all...Clockwork Orange was groundbreaking but Fight Club kicks its arse!

A couple years ago a local movie theatre had a run of Stanley Kubrick movies. In one night we saw Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket for 4 bucks. I'd seen Clockwork Orange before, but on the big screen it creeped the hell out of me. The movie is like a bad acid trip (in a good way).

Both movies are great, so I chose 4.

fight club was entertaining. clockwork orange was disturbing. but i love them both.

yup. It is a truly brilliant movie. I still get chills when you see Alex's eyes at the beginning and end of that film.

Is A Clockwork Orange good???

I think A Clockwork Orange was a better movie overall, there is something about it's atmosphere that I've never felt in another film...

very frustrating to read about any comparison between these films.

clockwork is a masterpiece. fight club is a mind game

i can understand the uneducated film viewer attempting to compare the films, but only youth and inexperience lends to picking a sophmoric psychic romp over kubricks treatment of a wicked visionaries future.

I would never compare the two, but since you have, I must tell you: A Clockwork Orange is true cinema, whereas Fight Club is simply a mind game. Not to take anything away from Fight Club; it is a great film and one of my favorites, but it cannot compete with films such as A Clockwork Orange, which explore themes much deeper and more profound than anything Fight Club can bring to the table.

Having said that, I have probably watched both films more than 20 times.

Fight Club is a classic but it hasn't been around as long as a Clockwork Orange. Fight Club had a better ending, better dialogue, better actors, and it was overall, not by much, more entertaining IMHO. Fight Club was very entertaining and it did that without having to sacrifice the messages or themes they were trying to get acrossed. A Clockwork Orange does explore themes much deeper than Fight Club but in doing that kind of sacrifices some of its entertainment value. Another reason why is because I relate a little bit more with Fight Club, being stuck in that whole generation of men raised by women group. They are both great movies, but I went with Fight Club.

Okay the margin of error (I am so completely in love with both movies that to even question which one is better brings me inner turmoil) is so high that it makes any answers to my poll irrelevant.

Oh well it was fun.

BTW I like em both, own both on dvd and have seen each countless times.

While I enjoy both of these movies, I'm going to have to go with Fight Club. There's just something about it, and there are so many good lines/scenes. Maybe I just didn't "get" A Clockwork Orange.

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Gosh, I dunno. These movies are so good that it doesn't seem fair to have to pick one. I guess I'd have to give the edge to Fight Club because you can see ugly guys kick the shit out of Brad Pitt. There's nothing better than a pretty boy bleeding.

On the other hand, Kubrick's Orange is also great in its own right with the boys killing the upper class.

Still, though, Brad Pitt bleeding makes me smile.

No pun intended, but this is apples and oranges. You just can't compare the two based on their social commentary.

On just the films alone, without a doubt I'm partial to A Clockwork Orange. I really enjoyed Fight Club, but as others have said Kubrick made a masterpiece with Clockwork Orange.

yep, Kubrick is the greatest director of all time and "A Clockwork Orange" is one of his best. I liked Fight Club but its still a notch below "A Clockwork Orange"

Clockwork Orange is amazing... one of the best movies ever made.

Fight Club is good.... but not in the same class as Kubrick's classic.

A Clockwork Orange is so deep and i have learned much from it, and Fight Club is not even in the same league as it based on movies alone. dealing with the social commentary they are two different movies, so i just voted based on which is better on the whole

Like both movies yet for entertainment you have to say fight club really.
I remember years ago watching a dodgy vhs of clockwork. Being from uk the movie has only been out a few years legaly anyway.

Just for the record, I would like to say that I think by the time David Fincher's career comes to an end he will be considered at least in the same league as Kubrick. I mean seriously, if you look at fight club there is not a scene in that movie that I couldn't make a picture of and put on my wall as art. Fight Club and Se7en were both masterpieces. Panic Room and The Game were both good. His only fault was Alien 3, but that was his first movie and he has more then made up for it.

Whe it comes to who is the better director, there is absolutely no question about it: Kubrick is far superior to Fincher. They're not even in the same league...not to take away from Fincher, but Kubrick was (in my opinion) one of the greatest movie directors who ever livied.

*2001: A Space Odyssey@
*Clockwork Orange, A@
Dr. Strangelove@
*Eyes Wide Shut@
*Full Metal Jacket@
Lolita (1962)@
*Shining, The@
Spartacus@

These are all the movies Kubrik has made, the ones with the asterics are the movies I've seen. I dont think Lolita looks good, same with Dr. Strange Love and Spartacus. He is down for two strikes in most peoples eyes. Lolita, from what I gather, is probably his worst movie. Dr. Strange Love doesn't look good to me, but I dont know for sure. Spartacus is supposed to be really bad too. David already has the talent, its just whether or not people will realize that and take Kubrick down from his pedestal.

A Clockwork orange was great, but perhaps since I'm in the target demographic, Fight Club beats it out because of how much easier it is to relate to and on the acting, effects, and music.

Part of the problem with A Clockwork Orange is the source material. The book is, in my humble opinion, pretentious, unrealistic crap. Anthony Burgess spent most of his time being way to proud of his language that he wrote a story with a completely contrived protagonist, especially taking into account his original ending.

Fight Club is a great comedy with and Chuck Palahniuk isn't nearly as pretentious.

Definitely Clockwork Orange.

I haven't seen clock work orange, but fight club is a very good movie so i'm going to have to assume that fight club is better because i haven't seen clock work and so goes the circular logic

i picked clockwork orange. Not because I do not like fight club but simply for more personal reasons. I have been a big fan of chuck palahnuik for a long time and the book is also great, this has nothing to do with it. I think it is more about the frat boy culture it has inspired to quote and become experts of self destruction because they payed 10 bucks to see a film. This of course does nothing to make the Movie worse, but I went with my first reaction.

Both films are truly amazing, once you dig beneath the surface. However, Fight Club is made in such a way that its possible to ignore the subtext. A Clockwork Orange will not allow anyone who views it to escape from it. So I had to vote for A Clockwork Orange.

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i hated clockwork orange......easy poll for me

His name is Robert Paulsen.....

His name is Robert Paulsen.....

I'm going with Fight Club on this one, I am nota big, big Kubrick fan as it is, and although I thought A Clockwork Orange was good, Fight Club was just that much better.

A Clockwork Orange. Real moral and ethical issues are brought up in this movie. Simply an excellent film. I recommend watching it at least two or three times. You should be able to see the issue Kubrick was trying to demonstrate.

Fight Club is stupid. So the guy lost his mind. Big deal.

oberon cowers at the onslaught of Fight Club fanboys :D

A Clockwork Orange. NO!! Fight Club. Wait, wait... ummmmmm...

*head explodes*

I love both of these films. For similar reasons and for different reasons. To compare the two, and have to chose one over the other would result in the above. Can't we all just get along!!

I like both movies, but I prefer A Clockwork Orange.

I love both films, but A Clockwork Orange definitely gets my vote. It's my favorite of all time.

I hate to have to use somebody else's opinion, but it's pretty much mine too. This is what Roger Ebert had to say about Fight Club:

Fincher is a good director (his work includes "Alien 3," one of the best-looking bad movies I have ever seen, and "Seven," the grisly and intelligent thriller). With "Fight Club" he seems to be setting himself some kind of a test--how far over the top can he go? The movie is visceral and hard-edged, with levels of irony and commentary above and below the action. If it had all continued in the vein explored in the first act, it might have become a great film. But the second act is pandering and the third is trickery, and whatever Fincher thinks the message is, that's not what most audience members will get. "Fight Club" is a thrill ride masquerading as philosophy--the kind of ride where some people puke and others can't wait to get on again.

A Clockwork Orange is a masterpiece, Fight Club is entertaining and mildly provoking fluff.

I may be alone on this, but i hate Clcokwork Orange with a passion. The whole movie just "erks" me.

Fight CLub however is one of my all time favorite movies.

Yea I know im odd.

Both are good films I liked them both but for different reason and neither could be rated above the other at least in my book err um viewing, shrugs<p>I got mothing...

fight club, definately.
a clockwork orange is over-rated

I dont think you can really compare them. They are two totally different animals.

it's a hard choice but i really like fight club

a clockwork orange gets my vote...

A Clockwork Orange

I don't think it's the masterpiece some critics make it out to be, but it's a better movie than Fight Club (which I liked). There's no contest.

I baffled as to why fight club is winning. I think it just proves that this board skews young.

they both pwned it their own respects......

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"is that blood on your shirt?"

Anybody who picks Fight club over a Clockwork Orange should be tolchocked and knived on their plot.

Fight Club, but I've yet to see "A Clockwork Orange". It's on my 'Movies To See' list, though. I can't wait.

I got the idea for this thread because there was a period of time that I didn't have TV. My roommate went through this phase where he would watch Fight Club over and over again. It didn't really bother me because I used to do the same thing with Clockwork Orange about 12 years ago.

I am completely undecided as to which one is better but judging from your poll results... I should play Fight Club before Clockwork. At least I should play it like this for random people whom I want to entertain.

I wish I could cross check and see if more women than men liked one movie or the other...

I don't know how this factors into the poll, but...

The idea of somebody watching A Clockwork Orange over and over again disturbs me much more than the idea of somebody watching Fight Club over and over agagin.

I think fight club was more of a mindfuk than CWOrange, but the truth of CWO really got to me. I think a lot of people become so immuned to stuff that its 2nd nature to them.

I loved fight club, I watched it twice in a row to make sure i got it all, clock work orange is still to be watched, its on my list (very long list)

I will comment further one I watch it, hell ill watch it now.

I'm a fight club girl all the way. I love man boobs. ;)

i like them both equally... but since fight club has all of this hidden parts in the film it got the vote

I'd have to vote Fight Club cos i've never seen A Clockwork Orange.
I have seen A Clockwork Orgy though....

they are both great, i like fight club better but clockwork orange is very good.

Even though i have only seen fight club, i love that movie so i think it would be hard for clockwork orange to beat that.

My exact thought when i read the question.

Classic.....can't touch it.

Fight Club no doubt. Clockwork Orange just didn't do it for me.
Had the question been fight club vs Clockwork Orgy the answer may have been different.

I had to vote for a little bit of the old ultra violence.

Wittle Allwex all the way. FC doesnt even come close imo.

Re: Which is Better -A Clockwork Orange or Fight Club
 

A Clockwork Orange is by far better than Fight Club in my opinion. I didn't even like Fight Club.:crazy:

Clockwork Orange by far. Yes, Fight club is a good movie, but as stated by one of the above posters, this is like comparing Apples and Oranges or golf and Football, there not even in same fucking league.

For those of you that has not seen Dr. Strangelove, it is one of his best. CHECK IT OUT!!

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Well fightclub is the best movie ever and clockwork orange sucks.

Anthony burgasses book clockwork orange is amazing, but I think the movie just drug on forever.

love them both!

I've seen Clockwork Orange. I think it's a horrible movie. I simply don't see what's so great about it. Utterly mindless.

Amusingly, I've watched Fight Club repetitively, and I notice new things each time. So.. *shrugs* I'm a little bias, aren't I now?

I don't think I've ever read a comment on TFP I disagree with more. I've seen Fight Club lots of times, and it grabs me every time. There are so many levels to it. And, although you can make excuses for it, a lot of A Clockwork Orange is very corny.

I really like A Clockwork Orange, but I feel its message is less contemporary than Fight Club. Plus Fight Club addresses questions which are extremely close to my heart. And, to reiterate something stated above, it's easy to lose the thread of A Clockwork Orange beneath the patina of pretentious language.

I'm going with Fight Club. The main reason I liked Fight club better was the "Single Serving Coffee, Single Serving Cream" part. I just love the timing and the beat of the part.

Well said, I totally agree. Fight Club changed my life. Clockwork Orange was a good movie.

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sorry i passed out while thinking for an answer--my head laid dead on the key board

i can't believe there even has to be a poll! both are amazing films, and cult classics, but i have to go with a clockwork orange every time. i mean, talk about groundbreaking ideas!