Big Brother 4
 

OK, since noone else has started this thread. I will.

I'm not a fan of reality TV. I only watched the second survivor and not watched any other of the mindless drivel out there.

Except Big Brother. Something about this show appeals to me. I watched the first 3 and I'm sure i'll be watching number 4.

Last night was the first episode and they have a new twist - the X factor. Well, i think it was very well done and will make for a very interesting show.

I do find it hard to believe that NOONE knew that his or her ex's will be in the show, but no point in speculating.

What say you?

I was surprised at how freaked out they got, hearing that ex's would be in the house. The wrestler strikes me as a bit of a freak, but then his ex (Allison?) does too.

Any speculation I had at this point on who will win would be blown out of the water in a matter of weeks. It makes no sense to guess this early in the game.

I think I like BB because it's one of the few reality shows I could easily see myself taking part in. Although the isolation would be tough, especially no books or music.

Yeah thats partly why I like BB as well. I can see myself sending in a video sometime to be on it. I like talking with people and I like making friends.. and thats the show.. heh. But then again... No TFP, No Video games, No Computer, heck.. NO GAMES.. Thats a lot to bargain for. I personally liked the first one the best. It made the show a unique reality show. I mean look around at all the reality shows (careful) there's a lot... Most of them are either Individual tasks, or out to show the evil, undermining part of Humanity. Personally, I don't need a Tv Show to show me how evil a person can be... heck how Greedy a person can be... The first one though, As much as people wanted the money, acting mean and deceitful was futile as WE the outsiders played God. We "Chose Who Lived & Who Died." Because of this, We saw the GOOD in people. We saw how people were naturally. If they were a good person, we saw that simply because one can only put up a Fake Persona for so long, and with a 24/7 feed, a single slip was enough for chat rooms to gossip about it, and thus they would soon be kicked. But now where they vote each other out, its just like any other reality show. They can be as deceitful as they like because, WE, The viewers have absolutely no control over what is happening.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I really appreciated seeing people just living together showing their REAL self, and thus getting rewarded for doing so, rather than seeing how evil and twisted they can be for some cash.... :(

The first one I found to be a tad on the boring side, everyone got along TOOO well.

BB2 and BB3 where a lot more exciting in my books because there was a lot more scheming, conniving and well, sex.

This one is shaping up nicely and from what I've read of the live feed recaps this cast will not dissapoint either.

I believe I read that the "elite eight" as they were calling themselves, were already fragmenting. They haven't even been in there a week!

Daval, I think you've right, this will be a good season.

Apparently they are all turning on Scott, he's supposed to be an annoying git. Also, they are all really keen on Michelle (the 19 year old blond hottie) who has spent a couple of nights in bed with Nathan (Head of Household).


Spoiler below-----














Nominated at Amanda and Jee -> they are pushing to oust Amanda this week.

Is it sad that I had to run to CBS.Com and remind myself of who's who?

I hope your version 4 is better than the one running here in Britian. Quite boring. They have picked some poor people this time. All the awkward customers have been booted. They have had lots of drink the last day or 2 and things got entertaining. Now that is gone things will get back to normal.

from what I've heard there has been quite a bit of conflict with the "X's". Apparently Scott was starting to lose it and had a temper tantrum - throwing furniture all about and admitted he has a STD (warts of some sort) and started freaking people out.

Well, seems he's been kicked out of the house by the producers!

I hope they send in another X as a replacement.

My bet is no replacement and no vote this week. Anyway, that's my hope. Amanda's pretty cute and I think Jun should go before Jee.

Anyone think CBS will carefully edit out any trace of the whole "genital warts" thing when they explain why Scott got kicked out.

Personally, I think his hats drove him nuts.

as much as reality shows drive me nuts overall except for a few, i still know waaaaaaaaay too much about them all cause of my wife.. damn her tastes!!!

this has got to be the biggest bunch of dimwits i have ever seen on a reality show.

scott was a prick and nuts.
allison is annoying crybaby.
michelle is a young dumb attention seeking bimbo.
erika cant keep her face out the mirror long enough to talk to anyone.
jack is mute.. although i sorta like him anyway.
jun is another attention seeking bimbo.
dana(?) is an annoying ego-centric spineless loudmouth.
nathan is the poster pretty boy.
cant say anything bad about david or justin.. i just cant tell them apart.

its definitely not one of my favorite shows.

Sorry Daval, offical word has come down from Mt. CBS. No replacement for Scott.

Still not sure if they're voting this week or not.

Way to call it Troublebot. Narry a word about the warts tonight!

Well, to catch people up on a bit of the news.

Scott was kicked out of the house for his mental instability and threats of physical violence to other houseguests. He blamed it all on his Genital Warts (which was cleverly edited out of the show tonight, damn you CBS). After he admitted to the warts Ali and Michelle both freaked out majorly, crying, puking (apparently) and basically freaked out that they could catch this STD as well from the shared toilet.


Another bit of news:-

Last night on the live feeds it seems that Dave and Amanda consumated their freindship in the HOH room. It seems that it was quite obvious on the life feeds that they were going at it, with Dave power thrusting away. CBS eventually went to the FOTH shot. Again - Damn you CBS. You make people pay for what you yourself advertise as uncut, uncensored live feeds yet you censor like mad. Ridiculous.

See? You want real drama? How about people freaking out that they may have gotten an STD and having a one-night-stand in the HOH room, 'cause one of them might be leaving soon?

Good stuff. Too bad CBS won't show it to us.

The thing that I wonder about is how did they get all the ex's?
I'M glad that Scott's gone, he was not adding anything and it sounds like he should be seeing a doctor anyhow.

Allison has a hot body but I just cant get past her huge nose. I do think that Michelle is HOT! I would love to see her turn up on the titty board.

I agree on alison she does have a good body but her nose looks kike it is going to take over her body. That chinese girl I think her name is Jun was ripping on all the girls and she has the biggest gut 2x than any of the other girls

I agree that Michelle is a total hotty, I can't see her showing up on the titty board though, she's a rich little daddy's girl.

Jun used to weigh like 200 lbs or something so she's looking pretty good considering what she once was - I will agree that she was being a tad catty though :P

Alison is also a cutie, but that nose is kinda bulbous.



Amanda's out of the House and Jee is the new HOH. How the power shifts dramatically.

Any predictions on nominations? I think Erica and Jack with David as a reserve if one is vetoed.

Damn, for a minute last night I thought I was watching Cinemax. Dave and Amanda in the HOH was fairly hot. Was it me, or did there seem to be alot of groaning going on?

Interesting how Gee went from up for exiction to HOH so quickly.

There is actually a full 8 minute video that someone has taken from the live feeds.

Click here for the Video!

You may have to update your Divx though:

Click here to update Divx




I too was amazed at Jee's sudden reversal in fortune.


Sounds like he's gonna put up Erica with Michelle as a decoy. Michelle thinks that the plan will fail and she'll be booted so has been sobbing around the house.

Lord, it has to work. I'd be very saddened if Michelle left the house. She's total eye candy.

I'm pretty sure she packed nothing but tiny bikini's. :D

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Hmmm, not that I'm encouraging you Sabatoa, but if you do get those screen caps, I bet a certain 'bot wouldn't mind if you posted them on the Titty board and then PM'd him.

Not that I'm encouraging you. :)

a few caps....

http://the-site.dk/BB4US/BB4US_2003-07-17_36.jpg

This is of Allison after she tried to pour water on Justin.

http://www.eternaljuggalos.com/ali.jpg

Another one of Allison during the same period.

http://the-site.dk/BB4US/BB4US_2003-07-17_18.jpg

Michelle getting dressed after shower.

http://the-site.dk/BB4US/BB4US_2003-07-16_72.jpg

Erica in her bikini

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...3/fba77c08.jpg

Michelle in her awesome shorts!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...4/fba990ef.jpg

Yet another amazing pic of Michelle



Let me know if you want more....

Even cooped up in a house together for three months, I know I'd have no shot at a girl like Michelle, so It's nice to look.

Drool.

Ok, I'm done. Who got nominated? Was it Erika and Michelle?

erika and michelle both nominated. Michelle is taking it real hard. Sulking bad.

Jeez, I hate to see a girl in short-shorts sulking. :)

I have to admit, I watch it... Only because my wife does though! I did happen to find some pretty cool screen caps. I will try to post more later if your interested...

http://www.thebigbrothersite.com/bb4...Image-0364.bmp
What's going on there?
http://www.thebigbrothersite.com/bb4...4/SNAG-007.jpg
Whoa nelly!

who's arseis that on the last pic? Is that Erica or Dana? I am betting Erica

It's official, David has decided not to use the power of veto. It looks though that the Alliance of 7 (formerly 8) will band up and save Erica - going directly against Jee's wishes.

I can't wait to see his face, he is positive he will win.

Wait, does this mean "short-shorts" Michelle is getting the boot?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Hate to be a big baby about it, but it's too early in the game to sacrifice one so fine.

I would hate to see Michelle OR Erica go - hell, Michelle cleans the house every day in her bikini and looks damn fine doing it!

Dana has been playing the twosided bitch and is relaying information to the three stooges that vote may end in a tie. What a traitor she is - I could handle her being gone.

Sorry Daval, it is Jun...

Here is a pics from a different angle:

http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forum...4caps/Jun1.jpg

wow, Jun's arse looked pretty good from that angle. standing up is when it looks its worst :)

I have to agree with you on that one!

Well, who's goin' Wednesday?

I'm betting on Michelle. I think the allaince of 8 (now 7) has pulled their heads out of their butts and will vote her out.

If Dana's smart, she'll fall in line (even though I don't expect her to.)

Can't wait to see the look on Roberts face when he realizes Erica's staying.

nice thread Daval!
Thanks

The looks on their faces were classic when Michelle was evicted, i thought it was hillarious!

Dana being HOH is a total wildcard though, no telling who's gonna be nominated.

This is gonna be one stressfull week for all.

As Dave said 'The psycho bitch got HOH!'

Possibly the best episode to BB ever.

The look on the ex's faces we priceless.

No telling about Dana though. When are nominations anyway?

If she's smart, she puts up an ex and an alliance member and let's them fight it out.

Here are some additional screencaps I dug up.

Peek down Michelle's shirt:
http://members.cox.net/spootin/peek.jpg

I will try to find more later!

*edit*

I took out the shower pics 'cuz they rexed!

oi! what happened to the shower pics? You'll have to definately fix those mate!


I was away the last few days, but I hear Nathan won veto and used it on Alison. Dave was put up in her stead.

My god I hope they keep Dave, he's hillarious.

Man I hate Dana, what a backstabbing bitch she is.

This week sucks.

I'm playing the CBS fantasy game with a couple friends and I"M GETTING SCHOOLED.

Why? Well, here's my team.

Dana, Allison, Dave and Jack.

Yep, the HOH and the three folks she has put up. I'd lose Dana because I too hate the way she plays this game, but she's bringing in massive amounts of points. I'm afraid Jack's going to get cut too, and I thought he'd be a sinch to win it.

Next week I'm dropping Dana and picking up Jun and Nate (after the ousting of Jack or Dave. Danggit.) Hope I can get back in the race after that.

Stupid Dana.

Well, Dave was voted out. Dammit. He was by far the most entertaining guy in the house - he was totally hillarious!

Man I hate Dana, what a psychobitch!

I loved the catty way she was acting on the show last night towards Alison and then her facial expression when Alison won HOH.

I expect Alison to nominate Dana and Justin.

Yay!

Sad that Dave is gone, but if I had to choose between Dave or Jack staying in, I'd pick Jack. I think Jack will carve some folks up later in this game. Loved the stuff last night about him sleeping without covers, so he can get to his gun. "And I don't even have a gun!" he says.

I thought a black hole would form the way Dana was sucking in here face last night. Notice how she didn't hang the HOH key around Allison's neck, but just put it in her hand? Classic.

Read the feeds and Jun is working it with Allison. She's a strong player.

Daval, my money's on Justin and Dana going up this week too. If the original alliance was smart they'd send out Justin. Then put up Dana against an ex every week and vote the ex out till they're gone. Just do it to torture her.

They've started showing the US BB here in the UK, I guess because alot more happens in it than the UK one.

Hard to believe. That first season was soooo boring.

Isn't the U.S. the last house to have someone screwing in it? Nice that Julie Chen could bring that up last night as David was leaving. As David said, "Nice to be first in something." :)

Well, its official - Dana and Jun are the nominee's, I was even a bit suprised by that one.

If one of them gets vetoed expect justin to be nominated as a backup.

Ok, I have managed to find some of the "good stuff"...

The Salad Bikini's clip:

http://www.mortystv.com/cgi-bin/media/stream.cgi?m021

Jun shaving her legs:

http://www.mortystv.com/images/bb4/0712_jun_boob_b.jpg

How about Alison's shower clip:

http://www.mortystv.com/cgi-bin/media/stream.cgi?m033

Missed that tit shot .Where did you find the cap?

Good show. Although here in NJ they preempt it whenever the Yankees are on and it doesn't get shown until between 11:00pm and like 1:30 am. F*** the Yankees.

Who got the veto? I think it was Robert but I'm not sure. Also heard the Stooges (Robert, Justin and Jee) talking like none of them would use it. Did he?

I've been trying to check out the live feeds every once in awhile. Is it just me or is there tension between Nate and Ali?

I've been watching that show, its pretty good. In my opinion, I don't think it was too smart for Ali to put up Dana and Jun. We'll see what happens though.

It all comes down to tonight ad who wins HOH. Jack, Erica,or Nate wins it and Justin is gone, possibly taking the ex's out of the game.

Jee, Justin or Robert gets it and Nate is probably gone, evening things up again.

I still think Jun is a wild card. I also think she's smart enough at HOH to do what Dana didn't do; put up one from each alliance and see how things work out. That way, she stays in the middle, not picking sides.

Does anybody else hate Jack, he is too analytical about everything

That's exactly why I like him. If he can knock Justin out of the game, I think he has a real shot at final three.

I definately think Jack is a force to be reconed with, he is definately flying under the radar right now I think, and will be a very strong player later on.

I am sooooo looking forward to Dana leaving. Its her fault that the best houseguest of them all left - Dave!

I hope one of the alliance win HOH tonight again. I am definately rooting for that side.

I don't think Jack is that great of a player. Perhaps I'm wrong. No matter though since the fact that he was in the FBI intimidates too many of the other guests. The members of his alliance will get rid of him as soon as they can.

I don't think Dana will leave. I think they'll tell her she's been voted out and she'll get that "lemon" face of hers to such a degree that her head just caves in on itself. :)

Looks like Dana is gone for good, so sad. I think its safe to say that nobody here will be missing her. Am I right?

Nope. Not missing Dana here. Glad I got to see her "lemon face" one more time when she heard Jun say, "Maybe it's time you left since no one wants you here." Plus, is was fun to hear her justify getting thrown out of the house 6-0. "I told them to do that." Yeah, ok.

I'm pissed that Justin won HOH. God! Jack blew it in the first round! Does it strike anyone else that, in a game where you had to know the person well, it was slanted towards Justin? Including Allison and Dana made it alot easier for him to win. Shinanagans anyone?

Oh well, Justin will put up Nate and Jack and Nate will go. The only entertainment this week is watching Nate and Ali fight.

Theoretically it is in the producers best interest to have the HOH switch between the stooges & co. and the alliance every week. It creates for an even split between the two and for a lot of excitement as they pick each other off one by one.

I don't think they are rigging the contests per say, but, as you said, it did seem a rather easy contest for Justin to win.


My predictions are Nathan and Jack to be nominated with Nathan gone easily.

If Alison gets veto she may use it on Nathan, and then Erica gets nominated in place.

Nah, she's been buddying up with the Stooges. Heard Justin say to the other guys last night that she's only good for a week. They may be interested in losing her next week. HA!

Glad Dana is gone. I'm rooting for the Stooges. I don't like Nathan and Ali is just a b*tch. I think I'd prefer to see Jee win over everyone else.

I'm rooting for the stooges too. Alison is so fake it is ridiculous. I hope Erika or Jee wins. The legally blonde question, come on you could have guessed that looking at the people.

how can you guys watch this show? It is terrible!! The first one was good for the novelty of it, but even it got old after awhile. All these reality shows are starting to be way too much. Fear Factor never gets old, though.

Fear factor is not really a reality show. Fear factor is a game show where you do gross shit. There is no interactions, there is no stuff going on behind the cameras.




Justin has nominated Nathan and Jack. Looks like Nathan is going home - yippee.

They just showed 15 best moments on fear factor, pretty good.

Daval,

I don't see how Erica and Jack can pull this out unless they win several HOH comps back-to-back.

I'd love to play poker with several of the houseguests. They can't seem to keep their emotions from showing up on their faces.

i agree..... i think it will be tough. Although I think if the alliance win HOH next week then Allison will stay with them and vote a stooge out (probably justin or robert I would assume)

Yeah, they'll go after Justin. Jack's got a mad-on for him. Plus, it would really weaken the stooges, he seems to be the one who makes the plans.

I've heard Erica and Jack discuss an alliance with Jun and Jee to knock out Ali and Nate. I think if they took out Justin, they might still make that offer, even if Nate's already out of the house.

I agree, I think Jun could switch sides at any point, and she would take Jee with them.


in the finals I see these two for sure....

Anybody here watching BB4?
 

My wife got me hooked the first season. She said we "Have to watch it".

I didn't think I could get into reality TV, but must admit...I somehow got wrapped up in the crap that goes on in the house.

This year I have even got the live feeds so we can eavesdrop during non-televised. I now know who has won what competition before it is aired. I am not sure if this is a good thing. Watching TV has never been a favorite pastime of mine. I usually only watch a couple of things a week until this obsession of watching whiney, spoiled brats complain about little things.

In case you are a fan like me and my wife....
Do you like or hate Ali?
Is Jack going to be in the final 2?
Am I wasting your time with this thread? ;)

Note: I just noticed another BB4 thread, sorry for the double posting as this was moved from the members playground

Nathan got in a major arguement with the 3 stooges because they keep calling him a baby. Jun and ali keeping picking on nathan, too. He looks like he is gonna cry at any moment. Robert just picked his nose and watched. Jun ate a box of cookies and ali just laughed.

Doesn't Robert realize Justin would sell him off in a minute to get ahead? I think Jee knows Justin can't really be trusted.

If jack wins HOH it will get real interesting (if he doesn't leave this week).

There was one of the Big Brothers, I can't remember which one. I subscribed to the 24 hour feed. Made all the difference in the world. Whereas, if you watched the show on CBS, everything was cookie cutter, with manipulated events, and manipulated personalities, when you watched real time, you heard fascinating and funny conversation, lots of adult themed banter, in short it was really run because the housemembers were intelligent and funny.

I remember once when two of the guys were riffing about what it would be like to have sex with Chen. Another when one of the members was reminiscing about being in a rock band and how the groupies would go for the lead singer first and he would pick whom he wanted and then farm the others out to the rest of the band.

It was the show with the doctor and the bartender and they were hilarious together.

My point is, none of that came across in the CBS shows.

I thought about subscribing again for this latest one, but, the people seem pretty boring.

They should do a Big Brother in which all of the house members are professional standup comedians.

I think you've got an idea there. Except they kinda already did something like that in Last Comic Standing. Although it would be a lot more funny if they were in a big brother house scheming to get one another off. Now that would be an entertaining show.

I have the live feed this year, and yes it is boring most of the times. But then again, they haven't really done anything yet to shakeup the hg's either. In facy i am watching it now while typing this. They all just got up and jun is eating (big surprise)

Does Jun stilll eat a ton even when she is on the pb and j diet. Is the live feed woth it?

Jun hasn't had to do the pb&j diet. The live feed is worth it only because of the brief glimpses of live nudity, arguments and other happenings that don't make it to tv. I have enjoyed it for the most part.

Ugh. I dispise the Three Stooges. Ok, I don't hate Jee, he seems like an alright guy. Justin is smart and playing the game well. It's just their cocky attitudes that bothers me. Saw it last Friday on the show and I've heard about it on the live feeds.

Don't these morons realize that, if their plan works, these people they are calling names and acting like pricks in front of are going to have to vote for them? Try some tact and graciousness for christ sake.

In my mind, Robert has no chance of winning this game, even if he makes it all the way. He's just been way too much of a prick.

i hate reality tv they need to get some series in there instead of these stupid shows next thing you know we'll have a reality tv show about beastiality

jdkash: If you hate reality TV, then may i ask what in the hell you are doing posting in a thread about big brother 4. Whats up with some of you people coming here to post just to make fun of the show. If you don't like the show don't post here, it's simple.

Troublebot,
I agree about the attitudes of the stooges. They apperently forgot the game isn't over yet and some of these people they are pissing off will have them by the balls later.
wed hoh will be very interesting. tonights show sucked

BB is a damn if you do, damned if you don't kind of deal. The power shifts every week and the best laid plans can be thrown into chaos by your own "alliance."

I find something appealing about that. People I hate one week I grow to like sometimes.

They should quit while they're ahead

Attitudes change weekly with the HOH change. Whatever side gets it is in charge for a week. If the "originals" get it this week, it flips back. If the stooges get it again this week, they can continue their plan.

The only problem I have with the show is that they piece together parts to push their agenda. Although it was funny to hear the hg's talk about Kobe last night, it was preceded by footage prior to last week's eviction - the table was still the large table that got replaced last week. Plus they tried to get some suspense on the use of the veto - everyone knew it wouldn't be used by a stooge to adjust their choice.

Of course I'm still watching.

I think that the whole reason they are sequestering the jury for this year is so the voters do not become tainted by what they read on the net, or see in the diary room entries.

I think they will be extremely limited in what they see. So the impressions they have of the guests when they leave the house could be the impressions they have when they vote....

Although the "three stooges" are acting kind of cocking, i still enjoy watching them come from behind. I must say, i enjoy watching the alliance fall apart.

I can't be the only one that enjoys seeing that fear in Nathans eyes, right?

He should have known not to use the veto on allison a long time ago. His "team" tried to warn him but he actually believed allison. She is playing the game pretty well, i must admit.

well, as expected Nathan left. I don't really think it could have gone any other way.

But the big news is the perpetually flip-flopping HOH has gone back to the Alliance and Erica has won HOH. WooHoo!

In the competition they had a grueling endurance competition in a steel cage - in the end they made deals with Jee, Jun and Alison and won it easily. Robert bailed first and started whining and complaining about his poor little headache. the pussy.

Expect Justin and Robert to go up - with hopefully Justin leaving.

Damn, what was Robert thinking being the first to leave. I don't give a damn how bad your headache is, he should know that HOH is way to freakin important. WUSSY!

Yeah i bet your right, it'll probably be Justin and Robert going up and it doesn't look good for Justin.

Wow, just reading the feed posts at TV Clubhouse was fairly exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing the show Saturday night.

Did Jee not realize he was in a cage with an FBI negotiator? Really, if you think about it, this challenge kinda suited Jack. Glad to see it worked out for him.

It will be interesting to see Justin and Robert campaign for/against each other. Will they? Won't they? Will it get nasty?

Oh i'll bet we can expect to see some campaigning

tonights the live show, and from what I can tell it looks like Justin is going home.

Also, there is supposed to be a 'twist' tonight - i wonder what that could be?

Hmmmmmm... the big surprise? I know they're looking at an empty week because of Scott being ejected. Could someone be comeing back in? Someone new maybe? Very interesting twist.

Jack has to win HOH tonight. I don't trust Jun and Ali any farther than I could throw either of them.

Does anyone else think it was strange that Jack did so terrible in the competion? You would have thought that he would have wanted to win to leave the nominations how they are.
Also I would not trust Ali she is a little sneak.
I wonder what the twist will be anybody have an idea?

I was thinking that the adding a housguest might be what they were considering. Since it is an all-ex concept, and the only one without an ex is Jack....and I thought I remembered hearing Jack was once divorced, but I may have things confused.

Does anyone here get the live feed? I've been checking out a lot of the fan sites, where they have a lot of spoilers, It's pretty interesting I think you can get a lot more out of the show, when you read some of the stuff on line.

Does everyone really think JUstin is going to go? For some reason I think the Houseguests are going to be stupid (again) and vote robert out. But who knows? This year has been a little odd and boring. Does anyone agree? The personalities seem kind of flat this year. The twist better be good!

The "Ex" factor lead to a forced division that happened right off the bat. ("You're an ex and I was here first, so I'm against you.")Personally, I prefer it when the division happens naturally, but I think this year's been pretty good.

Once Robert and Allison leave, I'll be happy to see anyone get the dough.

I wish i got the live feed but i don't.

IMO, if Justin happens to stay, it will be a miracle. I don't think the other houseguests would be that stupid, they know Justins a way bigger threat then Robert.

I don't think this year has been too boring, i've enjoyed it. Although my favorite one of the big brothers was big brother 2.

Hard to beat Evil Dr. Will for all out drama and mayhem, isn't it? Must admit, it was good tv.

Plus, Mike "Boogie" was a total asshat. He is the watermark to which I hold all asshat reality show participants. Robert couldn't even hold Boogie's jock as far as being a piss poor player and a drama queen.

Justin's gone and Jee won HOH. Wonder who he will put up and i wonder what the twist is going to be.