OK especially after watching tonights show, I am so fed up with that julie chen chick! I hate her sooo much! After what she said to jack tonight. He looked away for a sec while she was talking to him and she goes "are you listening to me?", argh I wish they would get rid of her!

anyways if anyone really wants to know what the "twist" is going to be check out any of the websites tomorrow. Like this big brother site since it's supposedly going to happen tomorrow.

I thought it was too cool to see dana and nathan together at the jury house. It's going to be a little weird for nathan though when justin gets in there! hehe I miss Dana.

At first, I was really pissed at Jack.

Watching the feeds as they were practicing the HOH comp, he looked good. Even in the clips that were on the show last night, he looked like he could win.

Then he completely blew it. Didn't even come close to the mark.

I couldn't see how it benefitted him to do that if he planned it. Afterwards, he went to Jee and asked that, if he and Erica were put up, Erica were kept in the house.

Now, Jee, Robert and Ali all think Jack is a weak player! They want to take out Erica first. He completely snowed them!

It's an interesting way he has to play the game, but it's nerve racking to watch.

I am starting to wonder about Jack "throwing" all of these competitions. In the past he made have been flying under the radar. But now, he knows that he will be the put up with Erica. His best chance for survival was to win last night. And he didn't come close.

The only thing I am trying to remember is if Jee has any "debts" left to repay from last week. I don't think so, so it shouldn't affect his nominees.

i can't see him throwing the comp. if he had won he would have been able to evict either jee or robert - the two biggest threats in the game.

I wonder who they are going to nominate though....

Apparently the twist had something to do with Power of Veto, Jee won it - BEFORE HE MADE NOMINATIONS and the house has to eat PB&J for the entire week because of it. oh well...


We need Alison to get nekked.


BTW. Did anyone see the playboy pics of Shannon from BB2 and Tonya from BB3

Yeah, Jack has been doing pretty bad in the competitions lately but i really doubt that he is throwing them. That just wouldn't make any sense to be throwing the competitions this late in the game when it REALLY counts.

Damn, how come i never heard about Shannon from BB2 posing for playboy? I would love to see some of those pics.

Jack may be saving himself for endgame. On Friday, he seemed to have everyone convinced to vote Erica off, because he was the weaker player. That FBI negotiator training actually helps in your private life too! :)

Hey, Shannon was a complete bitch in her season of BB, but that doesn't mean I won't look at her naked. If anyone has a link, share it.

Does Jack know that Erica once voted for him to leave the house?

(holds up hand for pic links, too.)

jack is so annoying I hope he gets voted out

I missed the last show. Anyone mind telling me what happened?

Mr. Spacemonkey, click the link below for a full update on the happenings in the house.

http://mortystv.com/big_brother.shtml

Hey! You're talking about my man Jack there!

However, I do think Jack's leaving tonight. The girls have a great deal running and the only thing that can ruin it is Rob getting HOH. Personally, I can't see him doing it. Especially after a week on PB&J.

Jack gone next. Then Jee. Then Robert. I'm thinking maybe Erica can win it all.

I am a little late in the thread but I just wanted to say that I will be so pissed one of the two fatties win (Allison & Jun). I cringe whenever I see them even speak.

Every season of Big Brother I always find myself asking who picks the people. Whoever does, well, they suck at their job. Every year there is one or two interesting people and the rest are as boring as watching two snails fuck.

apparently there is gonna be a new twist where TWO people are gonna leave next week or something?

I wonder whats gonna happen there.....

I'll try to post the BB playboy pics....

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mopsreality/files/


This is a yahoo group, but has some great pics in it! lIke totally awesome!

Here are the Playboy pics:

BB2 - Shannon

BB3 - Tonya

I too am curious about the mention of an additional person leaving during the next show. Wonder what is going on?

Fat or not, cringe-worthy or not, they've both played a pretty good game. They might be floaters (and Ali talks alot more smack than I prefer), but it's a plan and they've done it well.

Personally, I hate it when folks in the BB house call each other on lying. No one gets points for "Playing an honorable game." Go in their and lie, double-cross, make and break alliances, what ever you have to do to win. That's playing the game.

I agree, however I just cannot stand looking at them. If CBS wants a better game they need to go to the local welfare line and pick some people out of there. I am sick of the reality shows taking people who simply go on them for a chance to get noticed and get into acting. I would like to see people who actually want and need the money and are willing to do whatever it takes to get it. The word "trustworthy" and "honorable" is used waaaaay to much in reality shows based on a money prize. I wanna see blood when I watch them but all I get is lectures on loyalty and trust.

So, you want to watch "Bumfights"? :)

Plan9, I understand your frustration. "Media Whores" abound on these shows. The reason you don't see people like you and me on there is because we're not interested in being on camera 24 hours a day. People that are are a little funny in the head.

I agree, i totally think that Jack is gone. I don't even think he has a chance at staying in the house. And as much as i hate to say it, i think allison and erica will end up at the end with erica probably winning because none of the former guests would end up voting for allison to win.

edit: and thanks for the pics candyman.

I guess you are right. Oh, I also made the mistake of watching Bumfights at a friends house :(. I think that Survivor is a show that screens them pretty well. "Seems" like most of them are really there for the money and not the fame.

well the big 'twist' was Jun went to the MTV video awards.

This is getting lame, why don't they throw some real excitement into the mix. Like a rabid goat or something.

Did anybody see her there? Did she intro someone, or give an award?
My electricity went wonky. :(

Well I heard that the reason it was the mtv movie awards was because the producer of bb4 is the producer for the award show. woo hoo 3 minutes until big brother. damn charger game!

I've been away all weekend so I am not that current on whats been going on this past weekend - BUT.

Ali has POV.

Jun nominated Ali and Jee

This was a brilliant tactical move by Jun because she is forcing Ali to use the POV to save her self so she is guaranteed to have Robert and Jee on the block. (there was always the thread that Ali could use the veto on one of the boys before forcing Jun to nominate Erica as a replacement.)

Jun is a smart girl, i've just gained a ton of respect for her.

Yep, really smart move on Juns part, i must agree.

Looks like Jee is definitely going to be the next one to leave the house.

You never can tell.....Jun still has a secret alliance with jee. I don't think it's any good anymore, but she would have a great chance if it were to get down to jee & jun since jee has been making people mad lately.

Yeah, what if she tells Ali to not use the veto 'cause she's safe, then has to vote in the event of a tie (Robert for Ali, Erica for Jee)? She could just as easily turn on Ali at this point.

Has anyone noticed that you can't trust a damn thing anyone says to anyone in this house anymore? Not that I'm complaining.

Looking forward to Wednesdays show.

I'm going for Robert. I think at this point he has almost no chance of winning the game, but i really don't want Jun or Allison to win the game. I'd feel sick to my stomach if they were the final two.

Same here. I want Robert to win but i wouldn't mind seeing Erica win. As long as Jun or Allison don't win, i'll be fine.

Anyway, Robert has HOH. I'm thinking he will put up Erica and Jun. I don't think he'll put up Alison for the fact that he will want to be against her at the end for a better chance at winning. That's if he can make it that far.

I'm actually happy that robert won HOH! It might actually make it a bit more intersting this week. maybe... and he was the only one that hadn't won it yet, so he kind of deserved it! hopefully it wont be horribly boring this week.

well, looks like things are shaping up rather interestingly - if not unexpectadly.

Rob has offered to take Erica to the final three - and hopefully the final two. He has offered to put Ali and Jun up with the thought of evicting Ali.

Now this for me was totally unexpected and quite a twist to the traditional antics of Rob which was trying like hell to vote out Erica on two seperate occasions (unsuccesfully both times!)

Erica seems to be going for it too.

I'd love to see Erica win it all. Our cable went out last night and I didn't get to see how Robert won HOH. Judging from his past contest preformances, I'd imagine it was a "Who has the biggest penis?" competition.

I hope they kick out at least one more girl. I couldn't see Arika winning, she's just dumb.

i am mortified that at the start there was all these pics of girls taking the shower and i havn't seen them! this made me quite upset because i think they are all really beautiful

With Rob has HOH another girl (most likely Alison) Has to leave.

I quite like Erika, she's played a good game.

I'd be ok with Jun winning, but I really want Erika to pull it out. I think they've both played smart.

At this point it is almost a toss up on who wins. Part of me pulls for Robert, since he is the only ex left on the show, and it would be a fitting end after all the originals wanted to get rid of the ex's first. Of course as long as Allison doesn't win, I will be satisfied with any winner.

I love Big Brother....one of my faves! Of course i am a reality show junkie.

well Ali got the veto - DAMMIT!

my bet is she will evict Erica.



Also, rumours are running rampant that Erica is the real life girlfreind of Josh Souza - who was on big brother one (sloshie!)

It has been verified that Erika & Josh are a couple. Erika has been doing alot of modeling and I think they met that way.

Ali sucks. Robert is working hard to get he and Erika to the final two, but Ali will most likely screw that up.

Is Ali stupid enough to believe Erica if Erica says "Don't use the veto, I'm voting for Jun"? I think she is.

At that point, she either needs to promice Erica she'll use the veto and vote for Jun, not use the veto and trust her or use it and give up Erica voting for her if she makes final two.

If I were Erica, I'd lie to her and then vote her out. Hell, most folks on the jury would probably respect her for it.

I know i'd respect her if she did that cause i would do that too. I mean, Ali's done plenty of lying herself, she deserves to have the same done back.

But i think she'll probably end up using the veto on herself so all that probably doesn't matter to much.

Get Ali out. She doesn't deserve it. If she is rewarded for the crap she pulled then why don't we all just give our money to lying, skanky, whores

You have to keep in mind that this is a game. You do not win at Big Brother (or at least you shouldn't!) by being a sweet and nice person that everyone loves. You need to be ruthless, backstabbing and out for your own interests while using people around you to get what you want.

Ali and June and Robert have done all of those things. (to a lesser extent so has Erica).

It does not make Alison an angel, but it does make her a damn good player at Big Brother and she deserves to be where she is in the game.

Hell, she may deserve to win.

Ali would be incredibly stupid not to use the veto on herself. She will use it, I have no doubts about that..

I agree with you Daval, for the most part.

Lying, backstabbing and double talking are all part of the game (which is why I hate it when folks get nominated because they're "not playing an honorable game") and should be recognized. However, Ali talks smack at every opportunity about every person, even in the diary room. I keep going back to she calling Dana a "lying slut" during one of the competitions. Why? She was in the backyard alone, no one but America to hear her, so what's the deal?

She's not only a liar and a backstabber, but she's also just plain bitchy. I can deal with the first two, but not the third.

I have now changed my mind and am now putting my support and hopes wholly behind Robert.

That call he got from his daughter yesterday had my wife balling, me choked up and both of us solidly behind him.

I hope he wins.

I'll be happy with anyone but Ali. She's like that bath tub mold you just can't get rid of.

ROFL ROFL, thats just hillarious!

Exactly. The amazing thing is that she will have the opportunity to win. Both Jun and Robert will want her to be the one next to them for the final vote. She has alienated almost everyone in the house. If you count out the guaranteed votes for a given person, I don't think Ali has any. Robert has a bunch in hand, so unless he wins HOH, he should be the next to go if you are Jun or Ali. As always, the HOH is going to interesting to see who wins.

I think erika will be voted out tonight, roberts only chance is to win HOH again or he's out, too.

If it comes down to jun or ali, believe it or not she has probably played the game the best and if she can convince the judges that she played the best she just may win the whole damn thing.
Jun is still there because she never posed a great threat to anyone and she can cook. She didn't play the game as well as ali did although she did do a great job. Ali needs the money to get another nose job anyway lol

I'm voting for Robert.

He sure as hell better win HOH again because i don't want Ali or Jun winning this thing.

Ali needs the money to get another nose job anyway

lol

Ali won the first endurance challenge in the 3 part HOH competition.

The contest ended after 1 hour 33 minutes. Apparently they were pummeled hard and pummeled often with the ice chunks (can't really call it snow).

Dammit!


go robert go!

Ya' know, I haven't prayed in awhile, but I think I'll start praying now...

"Lord, grant Robert the strength to win the next two HOH competitions and boot one of these "ladies" out. True, he and his buddies should have evicted them a long time ago and true, Robert has all the smarts and stamina of a ham sandwich, but they are true evil Lord. Do you really want true evil to triumph? I don't think so."

I hope either Robert or Jun wins, although Robert hasn't really played the game. He's just lucky in all that has happened. Being with the best two players in the game (dream team), winning HOH (pretty stupid guess, but amazingly lucky). He also goes to the diary room and says stuff like he's playing the girls and has them right where he wants them, but he's the one being played.

Jun is also lucky and has just ridden on somebody's wing the whole time.

But, I can't stand Ali's cockiness or bitchiness.
And what is up with looking in the mirror like that, her nose isn't getting any smaller.

She's looking for that once innocent little girl that she hasn't seen in a long time.

I don't like Ali, but I think she can win this thing. Robert screwed up last night telling Jun and Ali he called them bitches, sluts and whores and then didn't appologize for doing it. He once again let his mouth overlaod his ass. He just doesn't know when to shutup.

It's not looking good for Robert. I'm crossing my fingers that somehow, someway he will win the next two parts of the HOH competition.

When is the second contest for HOH !!!

Part 2 Sunday, part 3 Wednesday and live eviction.

So, do the final two live in the house by themselves for a week?

Will it be MORE boring that these past two weeks?

There's a mime in there with them right now. That's right, I sadi a mime. I have no idea what he's doing there. It's something about a luxury competition.

They get three clues from the mime and then have to guess what the luxury is.

that is what robert said anyway.

wtf - no show until Tuesday. What's up with that?

Guess I'll keep watching the boring live feed ;(

looks like Jun won part 2 (i don't know what the competition was), so its Ali & Jun who will compete for HOH.

Looks like Rob is leaving :( I'm really sad about that.

Damn it. That really sucks! I was really hoping Rob would pull through in the 2nd round.

Same here. At least I wouldn't feel "dirty" voting for Jun or Ali.

It has started to get tedious at this point. I think the thing I am most excited about is waiting to find out how long it will take Donny to dump Ali after she gets out of the house.

I think he has pretty much dumped her now. lol

Just heard Ali & Jun talking. They keep saying that Robert has only made it this far because he is a father, other than that he hasn't done a thing in the house. They are putting him down so bad that I would like to go and kick Ali and Jun right in the ass.

Jun says she is going to throw the last comp so Ali can win the last Hoh

haha CBS should air that! seriously it'd make good ratings! Thats the only thing that could be interesting about this year.

Well, i didn't watch tonights show but let me take a wild stab at what happened. Rob left the house. :(

Got it in one Mr. Spacemonkey. Ali won HOH and chose Jun.

So, I guess Jun will win half a mil in a week. Can't say she's my favorite, but better her than Ali.

You said it, Khan. ;)

Go, Jun!

It's funny that if the voting by the judges is based truly on how the game was played and you leave out all the BS, Ali actually played better than anyone. All I can say is that whomever wins the 1/2 mil will be very surprised when they get out and find 99% of America could not stand either one of them. Last night Ali's father says everything she did in the house was not the "real" Ali.

I say we saw the real Ali and I feel sorry for any man that has to put up with her crap for the rest of his life.

Yeah, did you see her parents? I got a feeling that the apple didn't fall far from the tree. I'm sure their darling little Ali can do no wrong in thier eyes.

All I can say is "Run Donny! Run!"

And I hope, somehow, Ali gets out and reads this. I have no problem with how she played the game. Her talking smack made her one of the ugliest people I've had the displeasure to meet.

Well, I guess I am rooting for Jun now.

I like how she threw the HOH to make Ali the bad guy for voting Rob out. It was a good strategic move in my opinion.

i hate Ali....shes a lying cheating manipulating bitch....i think Jun should win.....Jun is also a snake in the grass but she did a much better job of it than Ali did

Ali or Jun, Jun or Ali?

It's almost like voting for your favorite Nazi, isn't it?

Maybe. I've got two opinions on that (talk about making a commitment.) First, Jun has played an almost similar game, without having anyone hate her the way they hate Ali. Strategy and diplomacy could lead you to believe that she played the best game. Or, Ali has played the game with the right strategy, and has essentially smacked everyone in the face with it - what might be considered a ballsy approach. That could be respected by some in the jury. If I'm voting, it's Jun.

My picks for the Jury Votes:

Jun - Dana, Justin, Jee, Robert, Erika
Ali - Jack, Nathan

Everyone else?

I'm with you Bones, except I don't see Jack siding with Ali. I think he'll feel Jun was the more diplomatic of the two and vote for her.

Looks like Jun is going to win. I guess that's who i'm rooting for anyway, even though it sucks that one of them has to win.

Its a shame in a way ... the only way you can get this far in this BB show is to be a lying, backstabbing bastard/bitch, so its bound to bring out the worst in anyone.

I can't get over seeing Jun grabbing herself all the time, wondered why she likes fondling herself, then someone on the show mentioned about her having put on a bit of weight (about 15 pounds? Those scales are LYING!), and her clothes don't fit too well now - so she's got to hold herself in ....

Someone posting on the live feeds last night mentioned that Jun was in bed, got up, washed her hands, then went back to sleep.

I thought to myself, "What could she be doing, in bed, by herself, that would cause her to go wash her hands and then go back to bed?"

Then I stabbed myself in the ear with a pencil to get myself to stop thinking about it. :p

ROFL ROFL

Found this today on the BB4BBQ website.
"Alison's Hometown Speaks Out

"Keep (me anonymous) as "Daddy" will sue me if he finds out. That has always been his threat whenever a newspaper article was to be printed or the pageant committee wanted to remove Alison from her title. I don't really care but obviously don't want the hassle. Was just getting tired of people thinking that this was just her game face.

Just to answer some comments in the rants, the people of Meadville and Crawford County have always known what the Irwin family is like. Most just choose to ignore it. Many are pleasant to their faces and then walk away in disgust. This is for fear of lawsuits or possibly damaged property or obtaining someone's computer password and then using to send out harassing e-mails. We are so confident we are untouchable that we feel we have the right to tell a police officer to f*** off. But Daddy always gets us out of trouble. For those that have picked up on the fact that Alison was taught her behavior from her parents, you are dead on. Mom was in charge of the cheerleading squad when Alison was Ms. Crawford County and made them go to the pageant and cheer her on, using some sort of blackmail to do so. She was removed from that position. Right now, the parents are getting a divorce, but with the extra notoriety from their TV appearance, they have been seen walking up and down a street in Meadville, holding hands and all smiles. They are also eating up all the attention from the local paper. So you see, the family isn't hurt by her behavior, they are proud of it. She's just been a chip off the old block. " - Anon"

Here is the link if you want to read more comments. I couldn't agree more!

I kinda got the impression that her family was a little creepy as well. I don't doubt any of this at all..

I got that vibe during their interview. And after meeting enough people in my life, I have come to realize there is always some family dynamic that leads to this type of attitude. You just don't go to college and become someone different. I am suprised that Alison has "cried" on the show about her parents getting divorced. It is probably the only thing she hasn't cried about.

A funny quote from Jun yesterday in the house. They had been spending a great amount of time slamming the ex=housemates.

"They probably threw her iq tests away; she probably doodled on them. Never got past her name, sex, age and security number; probably had to call her Mom everytime".


How I wish that they could see all of these before they vote. (I know Michelle isnt voting, but they are slamming jury members as well)

There was so many nasty things said by Jun and Ali since robert left the other hg's could probably sue them. I think they both could use a good caining.

That would just be hilarious if Jun and Ali got sued by all the houseguests, but of course it would never happen.

Well Jun won in a landslide. I was really suprised that Nathan threw Alison a vote. Very suprised in fact, I was kinda expecting Jack or Erica to vote for Alison.

I personally thought it was hillarious that there was no celebrating and congratulations when Jun was named the winner, she was in shock at the animosity that people were showing her.

This was possibly my favorite moment of the season. That, or the Mime at the very end.

Can't believe they were surprised by people's reaction to how they acted. They're both disgusting.

Backstabbing and bitching never wins friends, only enemies.

Its tonite that they show the final in the UK .... damn, another few hours to wait.

I can't believe how different the UK and US BB 4 shows are - the UK one was quite possible the most boring piece of "reality" television ever seen. At least things happened on BB4USA. The whole format is quite entertaining.

And I agree with Alison - I hate mimes.

If there are any regrets from anyone, it will be from Nathan. I loved his response when asked if he would ever talk to her again - "No!" I thought Jack and Erica might look at the game styles more than personalities.

I was so happy to see one after the other tell them that they had lost respect for both of them after seeing the video from the show. I don't think you will be seeing Alison and Jun on the press circuit - especially now that the Tom Green show is cancelled.

I also like that others were outed for their comments. Erica's "immigrant" comments were way over the line, and she needed to be called on them. Also, Michelle should have moved on by now - she seemed younger than she actually is. And was I the only one who had hoped that the letter from Donny would have been a "Dear Alison" letter. If he had broken up with her on national TV, it would have been a perfect ending to the show.

Oh my God, Jun won, i'm in so much shock and awe. ;)






SARCASM OVER

Well, it was a good season. The wrong people won, but it was entertaining overall.

Glad you started this thread Daval!

http://www.mortystv.com/images/bb4/0..._oval_wins.jpg http://www.mortystv.com/images/bb4/0924_ali_wins.jpg

I'll take Jun over Ali for damn sure. Ali is a hair on the armpit of life

Ah haha those are great pictures! ali looks so evil.

I loved what all the HG's said to the two girls. I will have to agree and say that was the best part of the season. I can't believe that nathan threw ali a vote after all she had put him through, and then even after seeing the tapes. That boy has got to have major problems. I loved what justin said, "I'd rather be stabbed in the front than the back, I vote for jun". That was great. I thought what Jee said was awesome too, He said something about winning the money wasn't worth losing peoples respect, but they sure did a good job. HAHAHA Fucked up but damn hilarious!

Yup, Nathan sounds like he will have many fucked up relationships to come. :rolleyes:

Great ending to a great season. Rest well in Hell, Alison.
Jun, may the IRS squeeze every last cent out of you they can. *nyuk nyuk nyuk*

I like Big Brother, I liked the Big Brother 3 the best. I think the current Survivor episodes are going to be great.

all these girls on the show were ugly and got fatter as the show progressed.... yuck