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OK, so apparently David Tennant gets around! He's been connected with 2 people involved in the production of Doctor Who, and he recently dated Sophia Myles for two years. (She's 28, he's 37.) And now, he's apparently dating the real life daughter of the fifth doctor who plays his daughter as the tenth doctor! And she's 23! (And even cuter than Sophia Myles.)
Oh, to be David Tennant. |
Sophia Myles is much hotter...
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Georgia Moffett?! Oh boy, she butters many parsnips.
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I cant wait for tonite!! This has been the longest week in history ugh..... A million ideas for the ending running around my head and Im sure none of them are right lol
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As I am watching it, I'll call them as I see them and edit this:
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where is daniel to tell me if this was awesome or not!!
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It's Awesome.
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cant type my full opinion now, but I will tomorrow...just wanted to say WOW (didnt love it as much as stolen earth, but it was still awsome)
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BTW, looks like Martha and Mickey will be joining Torchwood. That's kinda cool. I'm still going to miss Tosh and Owne something fierce. |
Dalek Caan's prophecy may not yet be fulfilled. Probably all I can say without giving anything away.
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Spoiler: well, Davros is probably going to survive somehow and that's an easy way to bring back the Daleks back
Other than that, the finale (speaking of both parts as a whole) was enjoyable, but extremely "fanwanky" and there were a number of things that just made no sense or were just totally unnecessary and stupid. So, par for the course with RTD's writing. Spoiler: Having two Doctor's due to some crazy mistake would have made a great standalone episode. As part of this episode, and with the explanation that was given, it was just stupid. It's like RTD said "We have all the various companion people from the new series together, and we've got a giant weapon that threatens to destroy all of reality, you know what else would be great? Let's have two tenth Doctors!" I'm totally OK with The Doctor using the hand to regenerate into the same Doctor. That's fine with me, and doing that should have left the hand dead. For the hand to inexplicably retain the regeneration energy (which The Doctor blew away) and have that regeneration be inexplicably set off by Donna touching it....just makes no sense. And, OK, so by using the hand during regneration, the original tenth Doctor stayed as David Tennant. What did the hand use to make sure he regenerated into David Tennant instead of some other Doctor? Spoiler: And then there's the ending with Donna. It was a very sad ending, and it was done rather well, but I really think Donna should have died. It makes more sense that it would kill her, but instead The Doctor just has to do his Time Lord Vulcan Mind Meld Magic and voila, Donna loses her memories and is safe. I'd much rather have seen a similarly touching ending where Donna goes home, dying from overload, and spends her last moments with her family, and finally gets some validation from her mother. But, no, RTD refuses to kill a companion (and, based on Stephen Moffat's track record, he probably does too). |
Spoiler: So are we still at 10 or now is it 11 (10 take 2)?
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ok....here are my thoughts:
Spoiler: While I absolutely hate what was done to Donna, to me it was a fate worse than actual death, I will console myself with the fact that it means she can actually be on the show again at some point in the future..while I didnt like her at first she grew on me a LOT and I ended up loving her. David Tennant's acting is beyond superb, what that man can get across with just a look on his face is awe inspiring, the looks when Davros was talking about the people that had died for him, and the look on his face when he left Rose on the beach with the other doctor just tore me to pieces. I knew the hand was going to have some effect on the regen and to me it wasnt a cop out, my only issue is it should have been "used up" then and not been able to come into play to give us the doctor donna and the other doctor. I've known for weeks that Martha was going to Torchwood, but I hadnt heard anything about Mickey, thats a pleasant surprise. Rose....eh, never could stand her and she wasnt anything outstanding in this episode Dalek Caan.....WHOA who would have thought THAT twist? it was excellent. Though I wasnt real jazzed with the "star wars" like storyline of Davros pretty much being a Darth Vadar and not really his own man German Daleks....loved it :) Wilfred at the end, had me in tear...but we all thought we'd lost Rose and obviously we didnt, so there is hope for Donna I really wanted to see the Master come back into play, but can understand why he didnt all in all I cannot complain a lot, it was a most awesome episode |
Spoiler: I am actually kinda sad that Dalek Caan is dead... Yeah he kinda went coocoo for cocoa puffs, but he was a Dalek that had thousands of lives in the time vorex to watch over and over the horror of the Dalek race. He went beyond his programming to get back at them. Why he brought Davros back after deciding the Dalek race must die, is beyond me (coocoo for cocoa puffs, remember).
However, now imagine what the Daleks could become if Daleks like Caan and Seth (the human Dalek) were to make the new Dalek race? Imagine those flying pepper pots---now with an egg-beater to go with their plunger. Disgusting, I know, but they'd be the must have friendly home companion of the universe: cooks, cleans, and peppers your food! In addition: Spoiler: Anyone else notice the slight cannon conflict: the Doctor was already stated to be half human in the 1996 movie, which as far as I know, is cannon with these new seasons. If it is not, we ought to have a an extra Doctor regeneration. So if he was already half human, and then metashifted with Donna, wouldn't he be 3/4 human then? |
There is a big debate going on about the human/half human thing I'm surprised to see and American movie is considered "canon"
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The DOCTOR from the Movie is cannon (McGann's face appeared in Family of Blood) - the PLOT is not fully cannon (he's fully Time Lord, and that's been expressed in the episode with the Master).
The episode was really good, Spoiler: and the ending with Donna's family was interesting, and sad, but not a total shock - it also leaves the option of being undone later. Don't know if you got the trailer for the Christms episode after your version, but it was good Spoiler: Victorian Cybermen. |
I saw it, and it would be really cool if they were Spoiler: Victorian Steampunk Cybermen
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Sadly, I didn't see the trailer for the Christmas special. Hopefully I can track it down somewhere.
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However - there are photos online of props used in the filming (in a sequence shot in a graveyard) where there are things that the fans are calling Cyber Wraiths, which are brass Victoriana Steampunk Cybermen. So that's fuckin' cool. :thumbsup: |
io9 posted a pretty entertaining (and mostly accurate IMO) review of the finale today (obviously spoiler-ific):
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On top of that...can we please stop with the randomly prescient characters who make reference to the future fate of our heroes for no reason whatsoever all throughout the season? I can only hope that Moffat will stop that. Don't get me wrong, the finale was entertaining...but this stuff makes it frustrating because there's potential for so much more. |
I completely agree with you SM.
Every companion brought round, their only purpose in the story to do their little bit....and that's it. Sarah Jane's silly little necklace, Martha's UNIT connection to the Osterhaagan device thing, Gwen and the Cardiff rift....at the end when everyone was hanging round the TARDIS, laughing and such, it just got a bit too far beyond stupid in my opinion. I watched it. I enjoyed it. The Donna storyline was pretty good and Tennant was a joy to watch as always, but--you're right--it could have been so much more. As for the Christmas special...jeez louise, are you kidding me...another Cybermen episode...? Every time the Doctor turns around it seems there's another resurrection of either the Cybermen or the damned Daleks... I get it they're bad...end of the human race and all that, but fuck, give us a break, eh? |
The Cybermen actually haven't been around since Doomsday, so I think there has been a fairly reasonable gap there, unlike the Daleks who have appeared in every season so far. So, I don't mind that they're using the Cybermen again. That said, for god's sake how about a crisis on some planet other than Earth!
We get it. Humans are special and the whole universe loves us. Can the evil alien races focus on conquering some other civilizations now? I don't want a Doctor Who where Earth society is totally different than the one I live in, and apparently neither does RTD, so instead we have countless alien invasions and then...everyone goes back to life as usual?! Totally unbelievable. Look at stories like Genesis of the Daleks. I realize we're not going to get one long serialized story arc like they used to do, and that's OK (though I'd like it). But Genesis of the Daleks is a complex and important story, involving one of the most important enemies, and it takes place in an entirely alien environment. How great! Is it too much to ask for something similar in the new Doctor Who? Don't get me wrong; I'll reiterate that I really enjoy the show and it's very entertaining. But it could be so much better. (Not to mention that if they got away from Earth more often - maybe even for a finale! - then the plots would be a lot less derivitive.) |
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LOL, that would be interesting. Highly unlikely though.
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Stupid CBC still isn't airing Season 4 so I'm slowly working through the episodes online. I've been staying out of this thread to avoid spoilers.
I just say The Wasp and the Unicorn and this season just gets better and better with every episode. The scene where the Doctor and Donna are playing charades as he's detoxing was brilliant. I know the season is building to some sort of Rose reunion, but Donna is simply spectacular. Ah well, back out of the thread for me. /Stupid CBC. |
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And I'd thought I'd post this... http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebri...ip-for-play/1/ I'm going to miss her. She was my favourite companion in the new series. |
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Actually I watched the finale a couple of nights ago but haven't mustered the energy to post about it given how long ago the rest of you saw it. I really am going to miss Donna. Catherine tate has enormous range as an actress and her energy and commitment to the role elevated the show. As to her exit, I thought they were rather smart about it. Sure a death would have worked as well, but somehow her amnesia is more fitting. (Regenerating her into Romana III would be a mistake :D ) One of the main themes of her character is that she's a loser. No career, no man, no respect from her mother, living at home... By erasing her exploits with the doctor she's lost again. Her whole life has been a chain of missed opportunities: Her wedding, the man in the library, and now travelling with the Doctor. They underlined this point in the coda of the finale when her father asks the doctor how to explain the latest alien catastrophe without triggering her memories. The doctor says: "It'll just be a story. One of those Donna Noble stories where she missed it all again." The last time we see her she's gossiping on the phone like a teenager without the slightest idea that there are people "...singing songs of Donna Noble a thousand, million light-years away.. Okay, one small easter egg I liked in the runnup to the finale was at the end of Turn Left when the Tardis glowed red and you could hear the cloister bell. The last time they did that was in Logopolis when they were setting up Tom Baker's death. Also, the actress who played the possessed woman in Midnight also played Rose in Russel T.'s mini-series drama Bob and Rose. I recommed watching that if you like relationship dramas. Can you believe the CBC now won't be broadcasting Season 4 until the Fall? Unbelievable. |
Well, it's official: David Tennant is leaving the show after the 4th season.
BBC - Doctor Who - News I would have hoped he'd do at least one more but I understand his motivation. Fingers crossed for Doctor #11. |
This makes me really really really really REALLY REALLY sad :(
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Well now this frees him up to do a second season of Viva Blackpool.
As for the next Doctor, there is one recently-out-of-work Brit who's chomping at the bit to play the part. http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9...0brand0vc9.jpg |
Russel Brand isn't out of work... he just left the BBC Radio 2. As for him playing the Doctor... not going to happen.
I want them to bring back Christopher Eccleston (also not going to happen). |
I want to see Eddie Izzard cast!!!
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I also think James Nesbitt would be good. As far as Russel Brand goes, I don't see why it would be such a stretch. From what I know of him, he's flamboyant, charismatic, and a bit deranged, al charachteristics that the doctor needs. I don't know a whole lot about Brand, but from what I have seen he reminds me of an (if this is possible) ADD Eddie Izzard. I think a little rockstar sprinkled into the Doctor could be fun. |
ahahahaha Eddie was mentioned
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I think Izzard would be more ikely to take a role asa villain than the Doctor.
The idea of Jim Nesbit is nteresting, and Coyle would be great -he's got the connections to the Moffat aparat, and was great in Coupling (the original UK version). Also an option is Marc Warren. |
Izzard would be a pretty good choice for the new Who, although, you're right, I'd rather see him as a villain of some sort rather than the good Doctor.
I seem to remember Nesbitt's name floating around a couple of years ago for the role, yes? With Moffat taking over this huge responsibility, maybe an actor he's already worked with should be the way to go....for whatever reason, I think Nesbitt would do a fine job in filling the Doctor's shoes. The notion of a female Doctor is kind of interesting, but I don't know how far that idea would fly on its own, especially if Billie Piper's name starts flying around as well. I, personally, didn't really have a problem with the character of Rose, but it seems there is a sizable contingent that do.... |
I am quite sad about this. James Nesbitt would be interesting. Russell Brand looks like a tool. Jason O'Mara sucks in the sucky remake of Life on Mars, and I thank God that's not a serious possibility. John Simm would kick ass, but he has already been The Master. I'm sure they could find an excuse for that though :) Stephen Fry would be an interesting choice.
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So I take it that no one has recently googled "Doctor Who Patrick Stewart."
-- I think it would be excellent to see Baker working with Doctor Who again, even if it is just as the role of a villain. |
How about Rhys Ifans?
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Patrick Stewart would be awesome. If Russell Brand gets the role, I'll stop watching it, I promise.
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After some consideration, however, Stewart would be a fantastic doctor. We've had the young, hip doctor with his love pangs and such....we need a doctor with some 'gravitas.' An older doctor, maybe with a companion (or two!)....that would stir things up a bit, yes? And who better to do so than the beloved Captain? |
If they had Stewart as The Doctor, they'd have to hve McKellen as The Master.
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I would loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove to see Patrick Stewart as The Doctor! Sadly, I'm pretty sure he's just guesting.
As for Russell Brand, I'll join you in not watching. I don't care how much I like Doctor Who, it's not worth putting up with that guy. |
Christmas episode tonite!! woohoo here's hoping I can find it to watch.
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The new Doctor is to be announced tomorrow.
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pardon my ignorance on UK actors, but who the heck is this guy?
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I'll still watch it, I'm sure, but I doubt I will love the 11th Doctor the way I loved the 10th Doctor. There is nothing more delicious than watching the 10th Doctor put on his glasses.
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The 11th Doctor has done some good work - Matt Smith (XI)
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I will of course give him a chance, but I seriously doubt anyone chosen would have been better than David in my mind lol David was "my doctor"
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It's impossible for every Doctor to be the "best" Doctor. Matt Smith (what a boring name) will certainly be no David Tennant, but keep in mind that when DT was named a lot of people had a similar reaction (who?). Granted, DT had more experience than this plucky chap (hey, we're in a Doctor Who thread, gotta talk British :P), but apparently Smith has done a good job in the productions he has been in.
His age concerns me, both from a quality standpoint and a story standpoint. I'm skeptical that his acting will be as good as if it were someone 10+ years older, but more importantly I just have a very hard time picturing The Doctor as someone younger than, say, 35 at the youngest. And when I'm 35, I'll probably think The Doctor should be at least 45. Anyway, I'll give him a chance........so long as they do something about his hair. His franken-looks...well I'll just have to get used to that. (Yes, I know, I'm mean.) |
Works for me. Bring on the new episodes!
I'm still pissed that the CBC isn't airing the christmas special. |
In my lifetime I've seen the transitions from 3rd to 10th (not forgetting that they've never filmed the transition from McGann to Eclestone), and every time I've wondered if it'd be any good, and every time I've ended up still liking the show just as much s I ever did, but maybe for different reasons.
What I find interesting re-watching the very old shows (70's and 80's) is that some stories I remembered actually had a different doctor from the one I thought was in them; thus proving that you remember the character, not the actor in many cases. |
The real questions is now whether David Tennant will be moving on to Little Britain!
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... Wooo... I'm better now. Cigarette, anyone? I hope Stewart will have some role in the upcoming season(s). I can't wait for the hand-waving the Who writers pull to bring in the Mad Monk. |
Interesting. - He has a sort of skinny David Boreanaz feel to his face.
He seems to respect the product, he and his family. So, that bodes well. I'm looking forward to his take on the Doctor. |
Looks to be quite the smug little bastard, eh?
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Well, I just viewed the 2008 Christmas special. I quite enjoyed it, though I had kinda assumed that Spoiler: he regenerated during this. The title of the episode hinted at this - of course it was a furphy :)
I'm looking forward to 2010 - the new head writer has written some of my favourite recent episodes (like Blink), so it is definitely in good hands. |
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woohoo only a few weeks til the new season (5 nites) of Torchwood
Airs BBC in June, July here in the states on BBCA. |
Great! I hadn't realised it was so imminent.
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Here's a bit of fun to help tide you over:
Rumour has it that the Easter Special will finally air here in Canada on the Space Channel on June 20 at 9:30pm. Fingers Crossed! |
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I didnt know where else to put this, and this thread seemed the most appropriate.....I had my first jelly baby today!!!!
We have a British store here in town that sells tons of stuff from England, and for fathers day we decided to get a "gag" gift for Dave's dad, the ultimate Tom B. fan, a bag of Bassett's Jelly Babies I bought two bags so Dave and I could try them lol |
Fun!
I was reading another forum discussing the actor slated to play the new doctor and how young he is, and someone brought up the interesting idea that the Doctor is manifesting younger and younger as he approaches his 12th and "final" regeneration. This isn't strictly true when you count the classic Doctors, but you could argue this in the broad sense. The first Doctor was quite elderly after all I wonder if this will come into play. |
Did you guys in the US get to see "The Planet of the Dead" (Tennant as the Doctor with Michelle Ryan (the Bionic Woman) as the main 'girl' part. It was a good episode to tide me over...
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"The Next Doctor" airs tonight on BBCA at 9:00pm EDT, 8:00 CDT in about 13 minutes, and re-airs 2 hours later.
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O.M.G part one of Doctor Who was friggin awesome!! agh I have to wait a week for the 2nd part....Im dying here!!
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If you IMDB the 2nd episode, Rose, Jackie, Jack and Sarah Jane and the "new" Doctor are all listed.
I just checked the cast list for epi 1 and Jack was listed but none of the others were....hmmmm Having Jack in it (for me) would make the regeneration easier for me. I was almost in tears in that seen in the Cafe when he was looking at Donna :( Im gonna give the new guy a chance....but Tennant is "my" doctor and things are never going to be the same. I do think Simms did an awesome job in his part, and the cliffhanger, while I dont really understand it has totally blown Dave away |
End Of Time Part II.
It's fantastic. The final "goodbyes" were a little heavy, but I think that was needed. The story was great, and the new Doctor looks good - there's a lot of the Second (Patrick Troughton) and the Fifth (Peter Davison) in his performance, but it's hard for any new Doctor to not reflect previous ones after so many people have been in the show over the decades. |
A wonderfully fitting end to Tennet's tenure. I'm really going to miss his Doctor a great deal, as I miss Christopher Eccleston, Tom Baker, and the others that I've managed to see.
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Tennant is the guy who brought me back to Doctor Who (my Doctors being Tom Baker and Davison) so I will miss him. He's a very good actor. I'll be happy to give the new a guy a chance, although I understand some of the creative team are also departing so it might be more than just a change of Doctors and there is going to be a breaking in period. |
He's awful young but he is goofy looking so he has that going for him. :)
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I'm not sure when it airs, but series 6 will start in "Spring 2010", so it's probably only a couple of months away.
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I teared up several times in the episode, his speech about the Master being able to be beautiful was awesome, but it was at the end when he said "I don't want to go" that I totally lost it.
It was interesting to see that Martha and Mickey had married, and I NEVER complain about seeing Jack, it was interesting to see him hook Jack up with the Titanic guy. I could have done without Rose, especially since that wasnt a "current" goodbye, and Sarah Jane....she's great in any capacity they use her. I will give Mr. Smith (ahahahahaha) a chance, but I have a feeling he will never be as good as "my" Doctor. |
For those of you who need another David Tennant fix, I highly recommend seeing him in Hamlet. Ono and I flew to Britain to see it, and it was well worth it. This past December, BBC televised a screen version with the same cast:
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FINALLY. Oh my god, finally Doctor Who is back on the air and it's frakking glorious. Matt's Doctor and Moffet (or is it Moffat?) knocked this new Doctor right out of the park, atmosphere, solar system, and galaxy.
This is something to watch. |
OK, I'll admit... I enjoyed it.
I still have some reservations, but for the most part the things I mildly disliked are all things that have persisted since Doctor Who restarted in 2005. (Oh, and Stephen Moffat's love of repeated phrases as a device to create fear: kind of getting old, but I'll let it go this one last time.) Anyway, enough with the minor complaints. If you enjoyed Doctor Who with David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston, you'll probably enjoy Matt Smith just fine. At least in this first episode, I never felt "gee, these two are young." Granted, there's still plenty of time for that to creep in, but we're off to a good start. :) |
I was prepared to hate it, really hate it...and while he will never be "my" doctor, that will always be David I thought Matt did a wonderful job.
I dont think the story line was all that hot in and of itself, but I'm sure from here it will only get better. It was hard to watch it and have zero frame of reference because everyone in it is new, but there were some awesome oneliners in it, my fav being "you're scottish, fry something!" And I love the part on the roof when he "come into his own" so to speak. Amy is going to make for good eye candy, and I know she will have her own personality, but I hope its more along the lines of Donna instead of Rose. The only thing I can really complain about from epi 1 is the awful new theme music....ick |
Oh yes, the new theme arrangement was jarring. There have been far worse in the history of Doctor Who though, so I'll get used to it.
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over two months and no comments on the current season? geez
The season is over tonite in the UK right? |
It is. Want to know what happens? ;)
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I enjoyed the new Doc, but I found Amy obnoxious. The relationship between the two never seemed to gel either, which is a shame because the set up in the first episode of the season was the best Doctor/Companion meeting I can remember.
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