THE OFFICE - US Version
 

Come on! This can't be the first thread about The Office... I'm sure it isn't. Anyway, it's a new one and I wanna start talking about it.

Season 3 started tonight, after having left us all with our mouths gaping open at the end of Season 2, after Jim and Pam kissed.

Well, a few of many questions were answered tonight... Along with a few laughs along the way. Overall a pretty good episode. Just like LOST, season three is a crucial season. Especially for The Office because of its winning best comedy at the Emmys.

So Office fans... your thoughts...?

I love this show! I enjoyed the british ones I occasionally downloaded, but this one is damn funny. Got my wife into it as well. I also think they have handled Jim and Pam very nicely, and made them believable. This show's power is to really make you uncomfortable.

I haven't had a chance to see the season premiere yet...

When I first checked out the American version I had trouble watching. It was far too imitative and I thought "what's the point?" Well...I persevered and I'm now a big fan. I'd say the turning point that got me hooked was when "Ryan started the fiiii-yuurrr!!!!!"

The general rule, I feel, is that British series' generally are pound for pound much higher quality than American shows. In the British version we get 6 episodes and in the U.S. we get 20 +. While I still feel the British Office is the essential comedy of the decade, the U.S. version is giving us a chance to see an alternate universe where the adventure continues. Steve Carrell is brilliant, and they've been keeping it at a very high standard.

I missed the first ten minutes and I'm so pissed. :|

Otherwise, it looks like there off to another great season. That scene at the end when they're all in the boardroom so Michael can share his views on Homosexuality was damn funny.

Yeah, it was a great episode. Classic "Michael Scott sensitivity training session goes horrifically awry because he's the single least sensitive human being that has ever existed" story.

There were some other really clever things too. Their lives went on while we took summer break. The cameras weren't around, apparently, so there was some recapping of what happened over the summer (Spoiler: Jim moved to Stamford, Pam called off the wedding, etc). Really clever way of putting reality into the show, having the show itself be a character.

I don't know about where we are with Jim and Pam. I was pretty sure that the end of last season was a shark-jump. They're still playing it, though--Pam reflexively turning to Ryan to share an in-joke that she would have shared with Jim, for instance. I don't see how they can keep Jim out of Scranton for more than a few episodes.

Jim will be back in Scranton soon. He hates it in Stanford, and the office in Scranton isn't the same without him.

I thought the premiere was fantastic

Jim? OH, you mean Big Tuna!

Does anyone know where I can get a gaydar?

Sharper Image.

OH...sorry, they're sold out.

I'll try Brookstone.

Apparently the character from the Stamford branch who went psycho when Jim put his calculator in Jello, he's signed on for 10 episodes. That either means that Jim stays in Stamford for ten eps OR the two branches merge, which could be interesting...

I'm so glad to find that this show has a following here. I became an addict just watching the season 2 repeats over the summer. This show is classic.

I should also mention that I think I'm in love with Pam.

If we're going to start confessing these things here, then I'll admit that I may have a slight crush on Pam too.

After the 3rd season premier, my wife apologized to me for not liking the show from the beginning.

heh

I probably should have watched season 1 and 2 before jumping into season 3, but I am hooked on the show. I think the show is funny.

Pam seems a bit shy and goofy, but I like that, she seems friendly.

I just watched all of season 2 over the last couple weeks, and I just finished watching the first 2 eps from this season. This show is wonderful... I can't get enough of Jim and Pam.

Man, the writers know how to pull on your heartstrings. I hardly consider this show a comedy (even though it's hilarious), and see it has a romance between Jim and Pam. :p


And nothing has made me squirm in my seat more than seeing Michael kiss someone. Man or woman, either way, it's horrifying.

My girlfriend got me into this show a couple of weeks ago. I've watched all of seasons 1 and 2 and just watched the first 2 episodes of season 3 on youtube. I have to say that the season premiere of season 3 is probably the funniest episide of any show I've ever seen on television. I had tears coming out I was laughing so hard, sitting here by myself. This show is pure genius, so much further ahead in terms of quality and entertainment than any of the other shows on TV. I hate TV in general, but The Office is simply a great show.

Oh, and Jim being at Stanford has actually added some slightly needed change to the show, and I personally like it. I could barely catch my breath laughing so hard at the jello scene when the guy started going apeshit.

I hope they extend Jim's being at Stanford for teh whole season because Jim + Stanford is funny and uncomfortable, which the show pretty much thrives on.

I just read that the scene where Michael and Oscar kiss was completely improvised BTW. It wasn't on the script and Steve Carrell made it up on the fly. The looks of horror and anticipation on the casts' faces waiting to see if they kissed is completely real. They said it was incredibly hard to hold in their laughter to see if they could get it on film, and they did. :thumbsup:

I'm just finishing season 2. this is a great show! hopefully it keeps going for years! (as long as its good).
it's refreshing to have a comedy without a laugh track.
and the jello joke is classic. when the dude kicks the garbage after that, the look on jim is hilarious!

OK. Now I have a crush on the woman in Stanford. I'm so fickle. :rolleyes:

Go Jim!

Any last words?

aw, come on rb, how could you not be smitten by the exploding paper clip grenade?

A) I was quoting the girl, and
2) Pam, dude! In her hot new outfit! Getting ogled by Creed, for god's sake! And:
iii) Okay, it was kind of a sweet moment with the paperclips. But:
D) Pam, dude!

What, I can't have two crushes? Aren't you the Polyamorist? :D

When we inevitibly see them in the same room, having a duel of oh, so cutely repressed emotions, I just might explode.

... then someone from the warehouse comes in and steals her away.

Yes, that would make me commit suicide.

Anyway, I know Jim and Pam will have their moment, but I definitely wouldn't mind Jim getting a little action on the side until then. Hell, that's the least he deserves.

And Pam was smoking hot.

"Go back to your desk, Creed."
"In a minute."

You know, they could play this a couple of different ways.

1) Jim gets some Standford lovin', leading to an awkward reunion with Pam when he returns.

2) Jim unwittingly becomes the Standford "Pam" to the woman's "Jim". In other words, they become fast friends, but he's oblivious to her advances, or at least willfully blind because of his latent feelings for Scranton Pam.

In other Pam news, UK Pam has a bit part in Ugly Betty. She plays the host of a Fashion News TV show.

/Pam, Pam, Pam, eggs and Pam

Fair enough. :eek:

You know, if TV shows incorporated polyamory, it would end a lot of drama right there. Imagine if the whole "love triangle" plot were abolished! What would Meg Ryan do with herself? :lol:

Okay, I gotta admit, I like the new girl.

Also--it was great how Pam got the whole office playing along with her, giving movie plots during the grief counselling session. Used to be just Jim and her playing those games.

I thought yesterdays episode was one of the funniest episodes I've ever seen. When Dwight was stuffing the bird into the can I just about wet myself.

Hey Folks,
I started this thread almost a month ago, and this is my first time back on TFP since. That's crazy, and wrong, for so many reasons.
Anyway, since then I've spent a SICK amount of time at the following webpages
www.officetally.com
www.theofficeforum.net
www.northernattack.com
www.nbc.com/theoffice
www.givemebacktheremote.com or something like that,

plus, all the Office casts myspace pages, and a lot of time at YouTube watching anything Office related.

I have a disease. I know. But I love it.

My favourite episode so far was The Coup, followed closely by last weeks Grief Counselling. Dwight was classic in the Coup, and Pam was at her best in GC. I was pretty skeptical about season 3 after the first two eps, but I'm back and in full force. The Initiation looks good, and word around the Water Cooler is that Jim and Pam finally talk in that episode. Time will tell.

So I"m glad this thread is still going. I'll try to get back in and keep the chatter up.

And in closing...there is such a thing as good grief...just ask Charlie Brown.

The Branch is closing tonight on the Office. Jenna Fischer who plays Pam says its the best episode of the whole show. SHould be good. Hope you're all watching!!!!

jim and the other girl are getting merged to scranton! AkWARD!!! next week should be awesome! it's too bad the other dude didnt go too. he woulda made a funny team with dwight!

And you know what? Other Girl (does she have a name?) is the ONLY person who is actually willing to admit feelings. Her "I don't think he's into me. But I'm into him." scene made me like her a whole lot. Imagine. Somebody who's not playing a secret-crush game!

Okay, AND Jim is getting the "second in charge" position in Scranton--making him, what, Assistant Regional Manager? What's Dwight going to do about that?.

So let me get this straight, Jim's going to be Assistant Regional Manager possibly and Dwight will still be the Assistant to the Assistant Regional Manager, that's going to make for some good story lines.

I can't believe I missed the episode, to the torrents away.

her name is Karen

Karen Fillipelli, to be exact.

I thought it (Branch Closing) was a pretty good show. Lot's of good plot to chew on. I'm so anxious to see the Jim/Pam meet up. It is going to be so good.

I'm not sure how I feel about Karen. I do feel that Jim and Pam should be together and I'm not sure how I feel about a plot line that puts another woman in the way. It's too cliched. Too predictable. Let's hope the writers come up with something original.

I so love this show, It was inevitable that the branches would merge eventually but I was expecting that more as a season finale type event and they would stretch out the two offices untill the end of the year.

I agree Daoust... the love triangle between Jim, Pam, and Karen doesn't seem like too much fun. I liked the idea of Jim hanging out with her while working in the other branch, but now they're all coming together before anything really happened between Jim and Karen. I was also expecting the other branch storyline to last longer... So yea, hopefully they come up with something interesting.

It depends how much character they invest in Karen, and how far they let Jim "move on" from Pam.

If Karen is left purely as "the other woman", then yes, it will be cliche, but if she's allowed some extra dimension and can earn our symphathies, not too mention Jim's, we're in for a treat. We haven't seen enough of her to know for sure, but I think the scene where she's covertly dumping her tequila shots in the trash from a couple of episodes ago bodes well.

Additionally, how far has Jim "moved on"? Sure he still has feelings for Pam, but if he's pragmatic and has closed the door on her, (hardened his heart even) we're in for some fine tuned dramedy.

Shut out for the time being, is Pam strong enough to resist her ex's renewed affections?

I tell ya, if the daytime soaps could create something as sophistacted as the Office...

The Merger has become my number 2 favourite Office episode of the series, solely on the back of Pam Beesley. Her acting in that episode was fantastic. The parallel stories of Michael and Pam, how they both had such high expectations for the day, and how they both came crashing down so hard, it just made for great television....

And the look Pam gives the camera when she sees Karen rubbing Jims back in the parking lot....just heartbreaking! Great episode.

I'm not expecting too much on the Jim/Pam/Karen front for a while. I mean, there'll be nods to that whole love triangle, but I don't expect any earth shaking stuff to happen till the next set of sweeps. Am I wrong?

The way Andy is best friends with Michael is one of the funniest additions to The Office in any episode. I was laughing really hard everytime Michael and Andy thought the same joke was funny and when they were singing in The Merger.

I'm glad they added Karen to the picture because the Pam/Jim thing can't go on forever unscathed.

Yea, I gotta agree with the Andy sentiment. I love the role they've got him playing. Not only is his interaction with Michael great, but it's fantastic to see that Dwight now has someone who is actually competing with him in the same idiotic headgames he thinks he's a part of. Good stuff.

Well, it might be old hat, but it was really nice to have more "Jim and Pam" moments. I missed them. :D

I think I had an endorphin rush when Jim and Pam made eyes after Andy hit on her. That whole scene was hilarious.

This episode had tons of great moments:

Dwight trying to tempt Martin with money hanging out of his pocket..

The office realizing that life at work isn't much better than prison...

Jim being awkward with Karen about Pam...

"Prison Mike" trying to "Scare Straight" the staff...

Andy serenading Pam with the Banjo...

With Martin quitting, it looks like we're going to lose a Standford employee every episode. That's too bad. I think It helps to have a few sane employees around.

A Benihana Christmas is the last new episode before Christmas, coming up next week. Check OfficeTally.com for an episode synopsis. I saw the preview after My Name Is Earl. Episode looks reminiscent to Season 2's Christmas party episode. I know there will be some interesting politics with Jim, Pam and Karen all together, especially when booze is involved.

Last weeks episode, the Convict was written by Ricky Gervais and Steven Merchant, the creative minds behind the original British Office. I thought it was good.
I AM HERE TO SCARE YOU STRAIGHT!!!!

Yeah, but except for Andy and Karen, none of them are real characters. I think it'll be fun to see how Scranton kills off each of the Stamfordians.

I just got done watching the UK version, all of season 1. I don't get the hype behind the UK version and how it's supposed to be sooo much funnier and that it's simply better than the US version. I mean it was entertaining, but it wasn't any funnier (I'd say less funny) than the US version. I also like the Michael Scott character WAY more than the David character. Jim is more personal than Tim. I do like Dawn more than Pam, even though Pam and Jim's relationship in the first 2 seasons of US is much more thoughtful than the UKs. I'll watch the next season of the UK version but I'm not expecting too much...so far the US version is much more entertaining, funny, and witty than the UK version, mainly due to the UK version having 4 characters that you "know," while the US version gives each character much more depth.

Ok I just finished the complete second season of the UK version and am now even more dumbfounded as to why the UK version is known as being better. I hated (<I>hated</I>) David (the Michael Scott of the UK) to the point of wishing he was fired from the show at the end. The actor is just so annoying in how he plays David. The show had maybe 4 laugh out loud moments out of every single episode in the entire series...I usually laugh out loud 4 times per episode in the US version. Even though the UK version is pretty much uncensored and can show more adult themes, they still never reach the uncomfortability levels that the US version achieves, all while giving each character a warmth that is <B>completely</B> absent in the UK version.

The creaters of the US version definitely took the premise of the UK version, but instead of simply making it US-ified, they made it better in every sense of the term.

The obvious point you're ignoring is that the UK version came first. Of course the US version should be better! They've had way more time to refine the concepts and way more episodes to do it in. To call the US one better is really a compliment to Gervais & Merchant as they are producers on the US version.

Besides, without getting into it too much, the Office UK is a great example of brit humour and it doesn't surprise me they felt they had to make a US version given a lot of the subtlety and especially darkness of the original.

Yeah I really don't think it's fair to compare the two versions. I don't think Americans or many Canadians get British humour the way they're supposed to.

Anyway, I didn't like the UK version, but i watched it after I'd fallen in love with the US version, and so I was a little biased. In truth I find the American version easier to watch. But I also fear the Office writers conforming to sitcommy trends to try and garner a larger audience. I hope against hope that doesn't happen.

Have you all seen/heard who Michael took to Sandals, Jamaica? It's the subject of the new ep in January. Should be good.

Sadly, the US version is starting to make Michael into more and more of a caricature. They need him to get back a little of the real person he was earlier in the series

I can see that.

Dwight, on the other hand, is a caricature, has always been a caricature, and must stay a caricature.

The reason I compare to the two is because most (if not all) of the people I know who have seen the UK and US versions say that the UK version is SO much better. I simply can't agree.

BTW, Tomorrow on BBC Canada the UK Office Christmas special is on.

just wanted to post here so y'all could see my new avatar! It's also my wallpaper!!!

For me, it's Gareth. His character rocks so hard.

So what did everybody think of "Back From Vacation"?

I thought it was one of the funniest eps of the season. The cold open was great "Right now I'm chopping off Phyllis' head with a chainsaw!!!!!" Darrell in the warehouse had some great lines, and the scene with Pam and Dwight in the hallway was heartbreaking and hilarious all at once.

I think that scene was setting up how things are going to go with Jim/Pam/Karen over the next little while. The writers won't be rushing Jim and Pam getting together because they know that's their bread and butter. So look for Karen to be in the picture for a while yet. Which is okay with me. I kind of like Karen, it's just unfortunate that she has to be Jim's rebound.

I'd love some viewer feedback here if you've got any to share.

I pretty much agree with everything you said here, it was a fantastic episode. When he sent that email to packaging instead of packer and immediately realized what he had done the 'oh shit' expression on his face was classic. I've done the same thing before :)

A Beni-hana christimas... best episode all season.

"Nogi Saki"

Reminder: New episode of the Office airing tonight.

Travelling Salesman

Summary (NBC): On Andy’s suggestion, Michael has staffers team up for sales calls, leading to some interesting, insightful moments in the field. Meanwhile, Dwight attempts to cover for Angela after she misses an important deadline. Karen receives surprising information.

Word around the water cooler is that Phyllis drops some info on Karen that she didn't know before. That's unsubstantiated, but juicy nonetheless.

Looking forward to some post show commentary!

I'm a late arrival to this show, only watched the last 6 or so episodes on tv but I love it. I still haven't seen the first 4 or 5 episodes from this season but I have seen all of seasons 1 and 2 now so I'm fairly caught up.

As for tonights episode, wow! It will be interesting to see how Angela exacts her revenge.

Last night's episode was one of the best of the season if not THE best. The mix of comedy and drama and character development is unrivaled.

After every episode this season, I find myself saying that THAT episode was the best so far. This show just keeps getting better. The writers of this show deserve an Emmy. I actually found myself feeling sorry for Dwight. When Pam and Angela went for coffee, and Angela was smiling, I was thinking, "Wow, it's nice to see her happy."

It's amazing how much depth these characters have.

I think Pam will convince Angela to fess up to her relationship with Dwight, thus saving his job

Yes. And the glare, at the very end. She went from the heights to the depths in this episode. Really good one for her.

Maybe eventually. I'd like to see a couple episodes following unemployed Dwight around on job interviews first.

That would be great. Especially if he keeps trying to pass off his martial arts training as a necessary job skill. :lol:

man, and wow weird was it to see these people actually being productive at their jobs! They were creative, effective, you name it, they got it. It somehow reassures your faith in humanity... in a very...very odd way.

I have to agree, this was a GREAT episode!! and andy is getting on my nerves!

on another note, I saw the 1st episode of the Quebec version of the office called "La Job" (the job). it follows the UK version but i can tell you that the acting is so fucking lame that i will not be watching this season! they had no timing for their jokes. it felt very rushed... did anyone else catch this show?

edit: I just had to add that i also saw the French version(from france) and that one was well made and had some good characters. I'm happy the US version is moving on it's own!!

Hey all, lots of good conversation about this last show... that's great!

Travelling Salesman was hilarious right from the cold open. "Boobs" was actually the point I laughed the hardest in the whole show! So good!

I really liked the different feel to this episode. I liked the chemistry of the different pairings, especially Dwight and Jim.

I think the episode began the slow funeral procession for the Ed Helms and Rashida Jones characters, Andy and Karen. I think their time is up before the end of season three, and this episode started putting those wheels in motion.

Neat twist at the end with Dwight. It will be interesting to see how he is reinstated.

In the end, a great show. This season is getting better and better!!!

Anyone aching for the JAM get t0gether? (In case you don't know what that means, JAM refers to Jim and Pam, the couple)

Actually, I'm pushing for "PKAJ: The Threesome". But maybe that's just me.

that would be sweet!! they all get along anyways! (maybe not after this week's episode)...

I've been having this random thought about Dwight...

Sometimes Dwight surprises you. As in this episode, he shows he has a better understanding of the real world around him than you would guess he had, if you were to judge him solely based on the fact that he falls for all the silly pranks Jim plays on him. How could somehow be such an astute salesmen, while still falling for a prank where he receives faxes from himself in the future? So... maybe Dwight Shrute is actually playing a "role within a role," or something.

Follow me here: how awesome would it be if, at the end of the entire series, Dwight reveals that he's actually a cool guy. He's been playfully acting as this out-of-touch weirdo just for the fun of it. He appreciates all the ingenious pranks Jim and Pam set up, and has had a blast pretending to fall for them. Maybe he's this thespian-in-training. And what better place to do this than in a documentary being filmed at the dysfunctional offices of Dunder Mifflin?

I don't know, that would just be really fun twist with him. I just appreciate the fact that they've created such great characters here, where an idea like that could even be considered. Yea yea, it's just stupid comedy show, but these are the things I think about when I'm walking down the street. :D

Can't wait for next week.

I hope that twist does not come before the series finale cause I'd hate to lose dwight being dwight.

I also concur that this was one of the best episodes ever of this show. Loved every minute of it.

I really liked how Jim and Dwight were by far the most successful sales team and actually worked together better than any of the others even with Dwight's feelings towards Jim.

I also liked this episode for how it developed some of the supporting players.

The moment I keep coming back to is when Phyllis gives her triumphant smile to the camera after her customer reveals the picture of his equally coiffed wife.

With barely a word, that scene says so much. On one hand, it lays bare the nature of the business and shows her to be smarter than we've given her credit for. On the other, it's bittersweet because we know that the beaming pride she feels through her own beauty and sexual power at that moment will be short lived. Going on a sales call to that customer is what passes for a highpoint in her life.

I also loved hearing Stanley laugh and laugh at Ryan in the car after their trip. Their adventure deftly showed Ryan's misguided ambition as well as Stanley's cynicism.

Ooh, and how great was Andy telling his patronizing and innapropriate Shark hunting story! That glare he gets from Angela at the end of the episode pretty much seals his fate. :lol:

BTW, I highly recommend going to the NBC's official site where they show deleted scenes. There's a great one between Pam and Toby. I wonder where that's going?

Totally agreed, fres. This was a very interesting and character-developmental episode.

That was GREAT! Thanks for the pointer. I can see why they wouldn't air that, though--it would just complicate the whole situation. I don't think of deleted scenes as cannon, so as far as I'm concerned, this is just a funny bit that they thought better of.

All throughout the first 3 seasons Michael has been insinuating that he's a good salesman and that's why he's the manager but everyone always figured he was BSing and that he was just put there due to time at DM. I really liked how he's actually a good salesman and was geniunely pissed when Andy was fucking up the sale. I seriously think that was the best episode of the season so far.

My thoughts exactly. Toby falling for Pam is interesting... and you know that he'd be a complete sociopath about it. But yea, there's enough going on with Jim, Pam, Karen and Roy, that we don't need Toby thrown into the mix.

There are some great videos on the Office site on NBC.com You can also see episode highlights, like the JAM kiss from last seasons finale, Casino Night... There is a HILARIOUS deleted scene with Michael and Stanley eating pretzels in the parking lot... I forget what episode it's from, but it's season three.

i actually got to watch a lot of episodes in my intro management class as a classic example of what NOT to do. we even got tested on it. It was AWESOME.

i love the episode where he seals the deal in chilis with the big contract, jan was completely caught off guard about it. Steve did a great job acting there, especially where he does that subtle finger thing that shushes jan until he finishes his pitch.

there was a little lead up to it where he got top salesman 2 years in a row (though it seemed it was from a time that the company was a little smaller, especially when he saw the crowd during dwights speech ((which by the way was brilliant, i love how jim's plan backfired and everyone just ate it up)) although i found micheal's speech a little hard to stomach.)

Tomorrow night, The Return of Oscar:

Oscar returns from his long vacation with mixed emotions on whether or not he still wants to be a part of the office. Meanwhile, Andy takes advantage of recent events to get closer to Michael. Jim turns to Karen and Pam for help to stage a prank on a new target.

It says that Rainn Wilson will at least be appearing in this ep, so maybe The Return also refers to Dwight. We'll see.

Although The Office got beat out by Ugly Betty for Best Comedy at the Golden Globes, I know that I'm getting happier and happier with S3. In my opinion the season has progressed, and is building toward something neat with Jim, Pam and Karen.

wow. this episode has been fucking awesome! so much happening. it wasn't really about Oscar. I loved the way they made Dwight look for a job.

Jim " I miss Dwight. there ya go universe! you win"

Mexican Lemonade

hello?!?!?!?

Even bigger than Mexican lemonade, or Oscar's return, or Andy's mental breakdown....

Karen: Do you still have feelings for her?
Jim: (nods head)....yeah.....

HOLY SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP!!! The wheels are in motion, folks!!!!

Jim and Pam were so awesome together in this episode. So wonderful.

"Where's my phone????"

"Maybe it's in the ceiling."

"Maybe YOU'RE in the ceiling!!"

Fucking hilarious.

Another great episode. I was a bit surprised at how quickly they brought Dwight back. I was also surprised at how the wheels have seemingly been set in motion for the end of both Karen and Andy in the same episode.

"I don't want somebody sucking up to me because they think I am going to help their career, I want them sucking up to me because they genuinely love me."

why am i seeing a re-run right now?

same here. it sucks! maybe they're playing it on a different channel? but i know the superbowl might have an effect on reruns? acording to wikipedia , it's comming back feb 1st. oh well. i can wait a week.

well mex_bike, they can suck my ass. i made it home all special just to see that shit. you bastards!!!

/i mean, not you personally. you...you're great.

Friends, you need to do your homework.

The Office

or
OfficeTally

will not only tell you if the episode coming up is a new one, it'll tell you all about the ep. It may even give spoilers. I personally don't like to read the spoilers because I've found that it ruins the episode for me. I like to be surprised.

On the bright side, Grief Counselling was hilarious. "I feel like somebody kicked my soul in the crotch, and at the same time someone is hitting me in the grief bone with a frozen sledge hammer..." brilliant.

My favourite part is when dwight is trying to get the bird in the mountain dew can, i knew it was coming, i've seen it before, yet I still almost spit tea through my nose watching it.

"I have the strength of a grown man and a little baby."

My wife DID spit out her drink.

Do you think Andy is going to leave the show? I think he goes out big... soon.

Unfortunately I think he is on his way out. I do hope they keep Karen around though, I really like her. Andy I could take or leave.

After Andy's tantrum, and how sick of him Michael is getting, he's definitely gone soon. Next episode or the one after, I'd bet.

I predict that Karen will stick around until Jim and Pam finally hook up, at which point she'll quit and move to her Mother's basement in Poughkeepsie.

i read on an OFFICE site that there was an extended edition in the US somewhere and it was much longer. read here on tv.com
check out post #75 for the answers. it's a spoiler so maybe don't read it if you dont want to spoil tonight!

Great episode tonight. Especially liked the verbal battle between Dwight and Ben Franklin.

Again it was another great episode of the Office. I think I might have to buy this on DVD, I've never done that with a show before, but I think this one might be worth it.

I didn't really dig this episode as much, but I think that the past 4 or 5 have been so good that its tough to follow up with direct content. This episode was more about setting the Jim/Pam/Karen triangle into action. I've never seen Pam so discombobulated; frankly, I didn't really like it. The rest of the episode was just fluff...I didn't care for Dwight's role tonight - thought he was almost pure caricature.

I agree with you pigglet. I didn't like this ep very much either. I felt that Pam was waaaaaaaaay out of character. It just didn't seem like her. Someone on another forum noted that Jim and Pam were such expert flirters when it didn't matter, but when it did, when Pam wanted to flirt for real, she falls apart and turns into a 12 year old girl. What is up with that?

On the other hand, I thought Steve Carrell had a brilliant episode. He had so many great lines. He was hilarious.

So here's a question, to spark some further discussion than just episode recaps here...

I am interested in your earlybird predictions for S3 season finale. I know, I know, it's not even February sweeps, and I'm talking finale...

Everyone is waiting for the JAM get together. It's going to happen eventually. But is it going to happen this season? Is it too predictable to have it all happen on the finale? Is it possible that Jim and Pam don't hook up this season?

If you don't think that the Jim and Pam hookup will be the season finale, what DO you think it will be?

Yeah last night's episode wasn't as funny/good as the previous 3. Pam's character was really odd...she seems out of character, like something might be going on with her actual actress IRL.