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CSflim · 05-22-2006, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

There was a great editorial page cartoon over the weekend: a couple is exiting the theater with "The DaVinci Code" on the marquee, and the man says to the woman, "I hated the book more".

....nice!

pan6467 · 05-22-2006, 06:22 AM

Everyone hates The DaVinci Code but they are all willing to make as much as they can from it.

Can't pass a Christian Church (Catholic parishes also) without seeing some signage saying how they will "tell the truth behind the Davinci Code"...... Of course they fail to mention that they will be seeking donations and the little basket will be passed.

I'm sure the albinos protesting have a website no one had ever heard of or visited until now and the contributions are flowing in faster.

All I can say is it is a fictional piece if people want to put more meaning behind it than there is then those are the people one must fear and fear them more than any book, movie or piece of fiction out there, because they are the ones pushing forth their beliefs as the only belief and everyone else is wrong.

or as Lucy says, "it's a BOOK, it says fiction on the spine"

Gatorade Frost · 05-22-2006, 02:48 PM

Does anyone know what Silas was using? It was like a barbed wire wrap that he put on his leg. Is there a name for that?

highthief · 05-22-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost

Does anyone know what Silas was using? It was like a barbed wire wrap that he put on his leg. Is there a name for that?

It's called a "cilice". Some people do use something like it who practice mortification (although not to the extremes, usually, of Silas).

Gatorade Frost · 05-22-2006, 03:00 PM

Hm... I wonder if you have to be Catholic to get one...

SirLance · 05-22-2006, 03:48 PM

Probably not...

linky

Derwood · 05-22-2006, 04:42 PM

did Albinos protest the Matrix Reloaded too?

Lady Sage · 05-22-2006, 08:07 PM

Once again I feel compelled to put in my 10 cents. Its a BOOK as so many before me have stated. I, however, think that the christians and other groups as well are being more or less (in my opinion) hypocrites about the whole thing. This is not meant to offend anyone mind you, but seriously, if its so terrible, why are they all capitalizing on it? Why make money off of something so "evil and vile"? I myself am pagan, which is neither here nor there, but I do not begrudge the christians their faith. It is their right to believe what they will. But a boon if you please... let those of us who see it as pure entertainment based off a work of pure FICTION, as it says on the side of the book mind you, enjoy the blasted movie in peace. I refer to the Bible as the "christian book of fables" again this is not meant to offend anyone, but I do not look down on anyone who lives by it as law. I just wish that the christians would spend more time living by the rules of their book and not "judging" or "preaching on deaf ears" or forgetting to "love one another". (Once again no harm meant nor offense, please just take it as one persons opinion and not an insult to anyones intelligence nor a dig on a branch of faith.)

SecretMethod70 · 05-22-2006, 09:17 PM

Well I agree with you Lady Sage, but it is a significant point that Dan Brown, the author of the work of fiction, persistently claims that it is based on fact which is not fact. It is *that* which people are getting all worked up about. It's not like this si the first book - or first successful book even - which paints a negative picture of Christianity. The difference here is that the author is claiming things as fact which are not. And it's not just a marketing ploy either. Part of the reason the lawsuit between Dan Brown and the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail was such an easy lawsuit for Dan Brown to win is because both authors claim that their work is based on facts (which are easily disproven by any moderately educated person). But, since neither made claims that the basis of their books were entirely fictitious, there was no real case for plaigerism.

There are most certainly people capitalizing on the success of The Da Vinci Code on both ends of the spectrum, but I don't think it's fair to paint all "truth behind The Da Vinci Code" events as capitalization. Quite a lot of them are responding to Dan Brown's assertions of fact which are simply not true. And this has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the bible is factual either. Like I mentioned previously, historians such as Bart Ehrman take issue with The Da Vinci Code precisely because what it claims as fact is not the historical truth. It is telling that another of Ehrman's books is titled Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why. His criticism of The Da Vinci Code has nothing to do with defending the bible and everything to do with preventing the spread of historical misinformation because a fictional author insists that his writing is based on fact. You and I may be smart enough to recognize that it is "just a book," but unfortunately that is not something that many people are doing, as I've already pointed out. And a big part of the reason is that Dan Brown himself persistently asserts that his book is based on historical fact that is patently false, and in that way he is spreading disinformation to anyone that doesn't take the time to actually learn that even that which he says is fact is not.

I wish it were a perfect world and everyone was smart enough to realize that the author of a work of fiction claiming something as fact doesn't make him qualified to make such a statement, but it's not. And I have seen *FAR* too many examples both in real life and in reports from other people (such as the situations that initially occured in museums) of people taking Dan Brown for his word. It's a depressing picture of the intelligence of the general populace, but it is what it is.

Brandy85 · 05-22-2006, 09:22 PM

I really enjoyed the movie, just saw it last nite. Even tho I was disappointed that same part of the movie were same as the book... But anotherwise the movies was very enjoyable, suspense was good, but just depend what kind of person you are to enjoy Dan Browns books, or the movie.

Lady Sage · 05-22-2006, 10:06 PM

I agree with you Mr. SecretMethod70. A pleasure to make your aquaintance! Mr. Brown, however, has placed into his book about the Holy Grail thoughts that have been debated for centuries although most people do nont know this. In my quest for my own spiritual past I deeply researched theories on christianity and other religions. If you can read them with an open mind and an open heart it is fascinating reading.

SecretMethod70 · 05-22-2006, 10:28 PM

Yeah, I don't mean to make any statement regarding to entertainment value of the book: I haven't yet read it. It's true that the ideas he uses for his book are not new and are things that have been debated. In fact, I'm sure it makes for interesting fictional reading. The only problem I have is that those ideas have been pretty strongly debunked in terms of what we know historically. I'm not a fan of ignorance of any sort, and so I do find it frustrating that he would claim such ideas as being based on fact, allowing for so many people to then take his word for it. Of course, I also know that comparative study between what we know historically and what is written in various religious scriptures is something I am particularly interested in, so misinformation in that realm of information is something I am particularly sensitive to. Not as someone who ascribes to any particular religious belief - while I consider myself "Christian," I don't think there's a single denomination active today that would take me if I explained exactly what I believe, especially since I don't believe the bible is a history book nor do I believe it is inerrant - but as someone who values knowledge and believes everyone should benefit from accurate knowledge and avoid the spread of misinformation. That's obviously a tall order to live up to, and no one could ever dream of being perfect in that regard, but when such established hoaxes as the Priory of Sion are claimed to be factual, or when an assertion is made that there is evidence that Jesus and Mary Magdaline were married or had a child, even though no evidence of it exists in *any* document we have, canonical scripture or otherwise, I do find it to be an egregious misuse of literary influence.

Even if I were to give Dan Brown the benefit of the doubt and say that his intention was to make people think more critically about what they believe in (as opposed to saying he's a poor author who can't even do the few weeks, at most, of research it would take to show that things he claims are true are actually not), I still find his methods to be insulting. There are a *ton* of ways to make people think critically about their beliefs that do not involve simultaneously forcing the issue with assertions that are not based in any scientific/historical research whatsoever.

Just for good measure, a little exerpt from Wikipedia:

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In a short preface, Brown lists a series of "facts" underlying the fiction of the novel. He declares that "the Priory of Sion—a European secret society founded in 1099—is a real organization. In 1975 Paris's Bibliothèque Nationale discovered parchments known as Les Dossiers Secrets, identifying numerous members of the Priory of Sion, including Sir Isaac Newton, Sandro Botticelli, Victor Hugo and Leonardo da Vinci."

If this is not a mere marketing trick, it would seem that Dan Brown takes the fantastic claims of the Secret Dossiers more or less at face value, as The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail did before him. In the body of the novel itself (chapter 48), it is said that "the Dossiers Secrets had been authenticated by many specialists and incontrovertibly confirmed" that the famous people listed were indeed former Priory leaders—something "historians had suspected for a long time." It should be understood that this fictionalized treatment completely reverses the judgment of real-world researchers, who (with the exception of dedicated conspiracy theorists) have rather dismissed the Dossiers as obvious forgeries. Nor had any "historians" ever suspected that Newton, Botticelli etc. were members of any "Priory of Sion"; this claim first appeared in the Dossiers themselves.

Oh, and btw, welcome to TFP Lady Sage

Lady Sage · 05-23-2006, 06:18 AM

Ty for the welcome Mr. SecretMethod70. I also find fascinating the books of the bible that were cast out and all of the translations of such. It amazes me how one book has been... changed so many times over the course of the evolution of the human psyche.
Variety being the "spice of life" is both entertaining and annoying at the same time in that one persons "fact" is another persons "fiction". I personally believe that no one sect of any religion is in fact 100% accurate. (Not even my own) I believe that through time they have been tweaked to fit the individual needs of a time frame and or mind set. It is my personal belief that as long as the person believes what they believe with their whole heart and lives by that code of honor, if you will, that its all groovy with me.

Redlemon · 05-23-2006, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

did Albinos protest the Matrix Reloaded too?

Yes. See Evil albino - Wikipedia.

SecretMethod70 · 05-23-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Sage

Ty for the welcome Mr. SecretMethod70. I also find fascinating the books of the bible that were cast out and all of the translations of such. It amazes me how one book has been... changed so many times over the course of the evolution of the human psyche.
Variety being the "spice of life" is both entertaining and annoying at the same time in that one persons "fact" is another persons "fiction". I personally believe that no one sect of any religion is in fact 100% accurate. (Not even my own) I believe that through time they have been tweaked to fit the individual needs of a time frame and or mind set. It is my personal belief that as long as the person believes what they believe with their whole heart and lives by that code of honor, if you will, that its all groovy with me.

heh, yeah, I think we're talking about two different things because I agree with you

I'm only concerned with historical accuracy (as best as we can know it right now at least)...beyond that, I don't really care what Dan Brown or anyone else has to say.

Lady Sage · 05-23-2006, 08:06 AM

Just out of curiosity Mr. SecretMethod70, is there a support group for forum junkies? I think im becoming addicted or so Pan is telling me as he laughs at me...
By the way, you have some very interesting people here with mondo interesting opinions. Most are very well worded so as not to offend.
Speaking of books, if you like to read may I suggest James Patterson?
He has a fascinating fantasy series about children who have been victims of genetic engeneering to now have wings, government hush hush and their quest to be free... kinda DaVinci Code-ish in its conspiracy-ness

JustJess · 05-23-2006, 08:50 AM

I read that - it was a good one, actually. One of his better (he often gets repetitive, oh, the saintly Alex Cross blah blah blah, but this one was well done).
/end threadjack

I never thought the movie would be all that good... I just couldn't see them translating all that exposition to the screen very well. And the reviews all say that is the case.

As for the book, I loved it, it was fun, and I would love to believe all of those things are possibly true. I do believe that there's a lot more to the bible than the crap they've put in there originally. (sorry-ish)

CSflim · 05-29-2006, 11:00 AM

Da Vinci Code rips off Star Wars apparently

. Added it to the op, you know, just for completeness sake.

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...l/14693976.htm

Overlord1191 · 06-01-2006, 06:57 AM

It was highly entertaining even if it was horribly inaccurate in parts. I kept waiting for Indiana Jones to pull out his bullwhip... The plot was pretty out there so I don't know what the different religous people are whining about. Also, BTW the Dead Sea Scrolls are in Coptic and not Arabic and make no mention of Jesus or Mary Magdalene only the Old Testament.

That being said, I haven't been to Italy and it was great to see the actual places and pieces of things in the movie to "fill the gaps" in my imagination from reading the book. I highly enjoyed the movie and it's getting butchered unfairly in the press. Definately worth your $8 bucks.

Overlord1191 · 06-01-2006, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JustJess

As for the book, I loved it, it was fun, and I would love to believe all of those things are possibly true. I do believe that there's a lot more to the bible than the crap they've put in there originally. (sorry-ish)

Jess, may I recommend 'Misquoting Jesus' and 'Lost Christianties' by Bart Erhman if you're interested in learning more about the different sects and beliefs other than the Orthodox view. I've read all his works and they're terrific!

intecel · 06-02-2006, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSflim

Da Vinci Code rips off Star Wars apparently

. Added it to the op, you know, just for completeness sake.

I love how people are making a big deal about that. You can probably take a writeup of the plot of about 20% of the movies nowadays, replace character names and locations, and the plot would match the other movie (I've actually seen this done for a whole slew of movies).

I'll keep my ideas pretty simple, since most has already been said. I had no problem reading the book through in one sitting. It kept me as entertained as the movie did. Maybe it's because I'm an athiest, and don't really care what's being made up and what's truth (and can understand that it's just a book, nothing more).

(Ahem: like the bible)

YaWhateva · 06-02-2006, 12:52 PM

Thanks SecretMethod for clearing that up for me. I guess National Geographic lied to me! If I see the special on again I will remember exactly what was said and type it out here. I agree with Lady Sage, I really am interested in the way the Bible has changed throughout time. I went to a Christian school when I was young (that's the reason I don't really like any organized religion too much but that's another story) and I have read through the Bible many times but it was only recently that I found out the "lost" texts. Even if they may not be credible, I find them fascinating to read.

Oh and I just started reading the Da Vinci Code and I kind of like it so far.

CSflim · 06-10-2006, 09:25 AM

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Cynthetiq · 06-14-2006, 12:24 PM

just finished the book.

my review: entertaining. 3 out of 5 stars.

rthmchgs · 06-17-2006, 08:28 AM

I have to admit I didn't finish the book, because it was so bad. I ejoyed reading Angles & Demons, except for the completely impossible ending. When I got to reading Da Vinci, it was the same book. Same general formula, same stupid progression of getting stuck and then EUREKA! I had thought that the movie would be semi-decent. I was wrong it was just as bad as the book.

There was a good quote by Devin Faraci in the movie review on CHUD.com, "The Da Vinci Code is a terrible book, made popular by the kind of people who give reading a bad name."

spindles · 12-10-2006, 05:01 PM

Well, I finally got around to seeing the movie. I was discussing it with the girl in the video shop who said "generally, people who liked the book hate the movie". Well, I thought the book was fairly ordinary but I thought it would translate well to the screen.

How wrong I was. The movie really was not suspenseful, Audrey Tautou (especially) and Tom Hanks both seemed too wooden. Her facial expression hardly changes through the entire movie. What seemed 'cute' in Amelie was out of place in a drama.

Both my wife and I agreed if you want a "puzzle" solving movie, "National Treasure" leaves this for dead.

It was just boring and I want my couple of hours back please!

longbough · 12-10-2006, 06:08 PM

OP has to realize that all those press releases about Christians, China, Star Wars fans ... "boycotting" the film is simply the studio trying its best to hype up some controversy about a dumb movie. Most people could give a rat's ass about this film. In desperation the Hollywood media tried some CPR in the form of publicizing "mass protests."

It's the oldest trick in the book.

And you bought it.

Nobody really cares about the "anticipated" Hollywood disaster.

CSflim · 12-11-2006, 04:22 PM

We had Christians picketing outside the cinema. I guess they could have all been stooges.

longbough · 12-11-2006, 06:03 PM

See?
Now you finally understand.

05-22-2006, 06:22 AM	#42 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Everyone hates The DaVinci Code but they are all willing to make as much as they can from it. Can't pass a Christian Church (Catholic parishes also) without seeing some signage saying how they will "tell the truth behind the Davinci Code"...... Of course they fail to mention that they will be seeking donations and the little basket will be passed. I'm sure the albinos protesting have a website no one had ever heard of or visited until now and the contributions are flowing in faster. All I can say is it is a fictional piece if people want to put more meaning behind it than there is then those are the people one must fear and fear them more than any book, movie or piece of fiction out there, because they are the ones pushing forth their beliefs as the only belief and everyone else is wrong. or as Lucy says, "it's a BOOK, it says fiction on the spine" __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

05-22-2006, 02:48 PM	#43 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	Does anyone know what Silas was using? It was like a barbed wire wrap that he put on his leg. Is there a name for that? __________________ I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well." Emo Philips

05-22-2006, 03:00 PM	#45 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	Hm... I wonder if you have to be Catholic to get one... __________________ I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well." Emo Philips

05-22-2006, 03:48 PM	#46 (permalink)
SirLance Junkie Location: In the middle of the desert.	Probably not... linky __________________ DEMOCRACY is where your vote counts, FEUDALISM is where your count votes.

05-22-2006, 04:42 PM	#47 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	did Albinos protest the Matrix Reloaded too? __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

05-22-2006, 08:07 PM	#48 (permalink)
Lady Sage Mistress of Mayhem Location: Canton, Ohio	Once again I feel compelled to put in my 10 cents. Its a BOOK as so many before me have stated. I, however, think that the christians and other groups as well are being more or less (in my opinion) hypocrites about the whole thing. This is not meant to offend anyone mind you, but seriously, if its so terrible, why are they all capitalizing on it? Why make money off of something so "evil and vile"? I myself am pagan, which is neither here nor there, but I do not begrudge the christians their faith. It is their right to believe what they will. But a boon if you please... let those of us who see it as pure entertainment based off a work of pure FICTION, as it says on the side of the book mind you, enjoy the blasted movie in peace. I refer to the Bible as the "christian book of fables" again this is not meant to offend anyone, but I do not look down on anyone who lives by it as law. I just wish that the christians would spend more time living by the rules of their book and not "judging" or "preaching on deaf ears" or forgetting to "love one another". (Once again no harm meant nor offense, please just take it as one persons opinion and not an insult to anyones intelligence nor a dig on a branch of faith.)

05-22-2006, 09:17 PM	#49 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Well I agree with you Lady Sage, but it is a significant point that Dan Brown, the author of the work of fiction, persistently claims that it is based on fact which is not fact. It is that which people are getting all worked up about. It's not like this si the first book - or first successful book even - which paints a negative picture of Christianity. The difference here is that the author is claiming things as fact which are not. And it's not just a marketing ploy either. Part of the reason the lawsuit between Dan Brown and the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail was such an easy lawsuit for Dan Brown to win is because both authors claim that their work is based on facts (which are easily disproven by any moderately educated person). But, since neither made claims that the basis of their books were entirely fictitious, there was no real case for plaigerism. There are most certainly people capitalizing on the success of The Da Vinci Code on both ends of the spectrum, but I don't think it's fair to paint all "truth behind The Da Vinci Code" events as capitalization. Quite a lot of them are responding to Dan Brown's assertions of fact which are simply not true. And this has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the bible is factual either. Like I mentioned previously, historians such as Bart Ehrman take issue with The Da Vinci Code precisely because what it claims as fact is not the historical truth. It is telling that another of Ehrman's books is titled Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why. His criticism of The Da Vinci Code has nothing to do with defending the bible and everything to do with preventing the spread of historical misinformation because a fictional author insists that his writing is based on fact. You and I may be smart enough to recognize that it is "just a book," but unfortunately that is not something that many people are doing, as I've already pointed out. And a big part of the reason is that Dan Brown himself persistently asserts that his book is based on historical fact that is patently false, and in that way he is spreading disinformation to anyone that doesn't take the time to actually learn that even that which he says is fact is not. I wish it were a perfect world and everyone was smart enough to realize that the author of a work of fiction claiming something as fact doesn't make him qualified to make such a statement, but it's not. And I have seen FAR too many examples both in real life and in reports from other people (such as the situations that initially occured in museums) of people taking Dan Brown for his word. It's a depressing picture of the intelligence of the general populace, but it is what it is. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling Last edited by SecretMethod70; 05-22-2006 at 09:20 PM..

05-22-2006, 09:22 PM	#50 (permalink)
Brandy85 Upright Location: Texarkana, Texas, USA	I really enjoyed the movie, just saw it last nite. Even tho I was disappointed that same part of the movie were same as the book... But anotherwise the movies was very enjoyable, suspense was good, but just depend what kind of person you are to enjoy Dan Browns books, or the movie.

05-22-2006, 10:06 PM	#51 (permalink)
Lady Sage Mistress of Mayhem Location: Canton, Ohio	I agree with you Mr. SecretMethod70. A pleasure to make your aquaintance! Mr. Brown, however, has placed into his book about the Holy Grail thoughts that have been debated for centuries although most people do nont know this. In my quest for my own spiritual past I deeply researched theories on christianity and other religions. If you can read them with an open mind and an open heart it is fascinating reading.

05-23-2006, 06:18 AM	#53 (permalink)
Lady Sage Mistress of Mayhem Location: Canton, Ohio	Ty for the welcome Mr. SecretMethod70. I also find fascinating the books of the bible that were cast out and all of the translations of such. It amazes me how one book has been... changed so many times over the course of the evolution of the human psyche. Variety being the "spice of life" is both entertaining and annoying at the same time in that one persons "fact" is another persons "fiction". I personally believe that no one sect of any religion is in fact 100% accurate. (Not even my own) I believe that through time they have been tweaked to fit the individual needs of a time frame and or mind set. It is my personal belief that as long as the person believes what they believe with their whole heart and lives by that code of honor, if you will, that its all groovy with me.

05-23-2006, 08:06 AM	#56 (permalink)
Lady Sage Mistress of Mayhem Location: Canton, Ohio	Just out of curiosity Mr. SecretMethod70, is there a support group for forum junkies? I think im becoming addicted or so Pan is telling me as he laughs at me... By the way, you have some very interesting people here with mondo interesting opinions. Most are very well worded so as not to offend. Speaking of books, if you like to read may I suggest James Patterson? He has a fascinating fantasy series about children who have been victims of genetic engeneering to now have wings, government hush hush and their quest to be free... kinda DaVinci Code-ish in its conspiracy-ness

05-23-2006, 08:50 AM	#57 (permalink)
JustJess Unencapsulated Location: Kittyville	I read that - it was a good one, actually. One of his better (he often gets repetitive, oh, the saintly Alex Cross blah blah blah, but this one was well done). /end threadjack I never thought the movie would be all that good... I just couldn't see them translating all that exposition to the screen very well. And the reviews all say that is the case. As for the book, I loved it, it was fun, and I would love to believe all of those things are possibly true. I do believe that there's a lot more to the bible than the crap they've put in there originally. (sorry-ish) __________________ My heart knows me better than I know myself, so I'm gonna let it do all the talkin'.

05-29-2006, 11:00 AM	#58 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Da Vinci Code rips off Star Wars apparently . Added it to the op, you know, just for completeness sake. http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...l/14693976.htm __________________

06-01-2006, 06:57 AM	#59 (permalink)
Overlord1191 Upright Location: Atlanta, Georgia	It was highly entertaining even if it was horribly inaccurate in parts. I kept waiting for Indiana Jones to pull out his bullwhip... The plot was pretty out there so I don't know what the different religous people are whining about. Also, BTW the Dead Sea Scrolls are in Coptic and not Arabic and make no mention of Jesus or Mary Magdalene only the Old Testament. That being said, I haven't been to Italy and it was great to see the actual places and pieces of things in the movie to "fill the gaps" in my imagination from reading the book. I highly enjoyed the movie and it's getting butchered unfairly in the press. Definately worth your $8 bucks. __________________ "Thanks to TV and for the convenience of TV, you can only be one of two kinds of human beings, either a liberal or a conservative." - Kurt Vonnegut

06-02-2006, 12:52 PM	#62 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	Thanks SecretMethod for clearing that up for me. I guess National Geographic lied to me! If I see the special on again I will remember exactly what was said and type it out here. I agree with Lady Sage, I really am interested in the way the Bible has changed throughout time. I went to a Christian school when I was young (that's the reason I don't really like any organized religion too much but that's another story) and I have read through the Bible many times but it was only recently that I found out the "lost" texts. Even if they may not be credible, I find them fascinating to read. Oh and I just started reading the Da Vinci Code and I kind of like it so far. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

06-14-2006, 12:24 PM	#64 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	just finished the book. my review: entertaining. 3 out of 5 stars. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

06-10-2006, 09:25 AM	#63 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Edited the original post to add another 1,306,313,812 people to the list. __________________

06-17-2006, 08:28 AM	#65 (permalink)
rthmchgs Upright Location: Norfolk, VA	I have to admit I didn't finish the book, because it was so bad. I ejoyed reading Angles & Demons, except for the completely impossible ending. When I got to reading Da Vinci, it was the same book. Same general formula, same stupid progression of getting stuck and then EUREKA! I had thought that the movie would be semi-decent. I was wrong it was just as bad as the book. There was a good quote by Devin Faraci in the movie review on CHUD.com, "The Da Vinci Code is a terrible book, made popular by the kind of people who give reading a bad name."

12-10-2006, 05:01 PM	#66 (permalink)
spindles Mine is an evil laugh Location: Sydney, Australia	Well, I finally got around to seeing the movie. I was discussing it with the girl in the video shop who said "generally, people who liked the book hate the movie". Well, I thought the book was fairly ordinary but I thought it would translate well to the screen. How wrong I was. The movie really was not suspenseful, Audrey Tautou (especially) and Tom Hanks both seemed too wooden. Her facial expression hardly changes through the entire movie. What seemed 'cute' in Amelie was out of place in a drama. Both my wife and I agreed if you want a "puzzle" solving movie, "National Treasure" leaves this for dead. It was just boring and I want my couple of hours back please! __________________ who hid my keyboard's PANIC button?

12-10-2006, 06:08 PM	#67 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	OP has to realize that all those press releases about Christians, China, Star Wars fans ... "boycotting" the film is simply the studio trying its best to hype up some controversy about a dumb movie. Most people could give a rat's ass about this film. In desperation the Hollywood media tried some CPR in the form of publicizing "mass protests." It's the oldest trick in the book. And you bought it. Nobody really cares about the "anticipated" Hollywood disaster. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi Last edited by longbough; 12-10-2006 at 07:12 PM..

12-11-2006, 04:22 PM	#68 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	We had Christians picketing outside the cinema. I guess they could have all been stooges. __________________

12-11-2006, 06:03 PM	#69 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	See? Now you finally understand. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi Last edited by longbough; 12-11-2006 at 09:13 PM..