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ShaniFaye · 03-01-2006, 10:01 AM

I saw a trailer for this last nite and it looks like a must see...then I imdb'd it today and saw that its been a "work in progress" for a few years and some people have actually seen some cuts of it and evidently this is a US release thats coming out in 9 days (March 10th)

Has anyone seen any of the past showings of this. As its a Depp movie Im definately interested, enuff so that I will see it despite John Malkovich being in it (I cant stand that man!!).

Derwood · 03-01-2006, 12:49 PM

Malkovich was in the stage version at Steppenwolf several years back

ShaniFaye · 03-10-2006, 03:57 PM

So since Dave and I had the afternoon off, we went to see the first showing of the Libertine

I was sadly sadly disappointed it was so boring we left after an hour. I couldnt stay awake.

I have never in my life walked out of a movie but I just couldnt take anymore of it. The score was annoying, the acting was horrible the dialog was choppy and watching it was painful as the lighting is SO dark (doesnt look at all as bright as it does on the tv commercials)

Dont pay to see this at the theater, if you think you NEED to see it cause you're a Depp fan, wait til it comes out on DVD so you can pause it to take a nap

Charlatan · 03-10-2006, 04:06 PM

Interesting... the reviews have been solid.

ShaniFaye · 03-10-2006, 04:16 PM

I havent read a review (locally) that had anything nice to say about it, which is why I figured I'd like it lol I never agree with the reviewers, sadly this time I did

this was the review from the big Atlanta paper

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At the very beginning of "The Libertine," Johnny Depp, dressed in full Restoration regalia, steps up to the camera and announces, "You will not like me."

Alas, it's his movie we don't like. Depp, for all his debauchery as the notorious 17th-century poet and, well, libertine, John Wilmot, the Earl of Rochester, remains impossible to dislike. Even at the end, when his nose has fallen off (thanks to a case of the clap) and is replaced by what appears to be a silver bullet. Handy, one guesses, for any lurking werewolves in London.
The Weinstein Company

'The Libertine'

D+

The verdict: Debauchery rarely has been this tedious.

What's really roaming the filthy streets of the city in the mid-1600s are thieves and fops, whores and peddlers, dandies and drunks. King Charles II (John Malkovich, "acting" in a pretty impressive false proboscis of his own) has returned the good times to Britain after the joyless Puritanism of the Roundheads.

Wilmot and his pretty, long-suffering wife ("Pride & Prejudice's" Rosamund Pike) are summoned back to court from their banishment in the country. Charles wants him to do for his reign what Shakespeare did for Queen Elizabeth's: make him look good for the ages. But the merry monarch, of all people, should know not to trust bad boys who party hearty.

When he's not whoring and drinking himself to death, Wilmot coaches a determined young actress (a very strong Samantha Morton) in the Method about 400 years before it existed. Billy Crudup did much the same thing for Claire Danes in the far superior "Stage Beauty," which shares this movie's setting and king (infinitely better played by Rupert Everett).

Adapting his own play, Stephen Jeffreys can't shake the script's essential staginess. And first-time feature director Laurence Dunmore, who made his reputation in advertising and music videos, can't coax the movie to life. The scenes between Depp and Morton throw off sparks, but the movie as a whole needs focus, oomph. Reported last-minute budget cuts don't help. Dunmore's London is impossibly murky — as if he's trying to disguise the fact that the actors are working in front of, I don't know, a London made out of a bedsheet and a fog machine.

Still, there's Depp, who makes Wilmot a sort of R- (maybe X-) rated Jack Sparrow, rakish and answering to no one. To his credit, he never courts us. Nor does he mind being covered with syphilitic sores.

This riveting actor knows what he's doing. Unfortunately, his film is lost in a fake London fog.

Grasshopper Green · 03-10-2006, 05:01 PM

We saw it this afternoon before checking on reviews; our paper gave it one star out of four (I often disagree with the reviewer here, but one star is still iffy) I agree with Shani...we should have waited for DVD. A few people left the showing I attended.

My main problem was there was no point. Everything seemed so random and certain scenes seemed like they were thrown in just for hell of it, with no rhyme or reason. Save your money and wait if you still want to see it.

hunnychile · 03-14-2006, 04:08 PM

Theives and fops. (?)..geez, it sounds like you were a tourist in lower San Francisco, near the Mission/Embarcadero district.

Sorry that the movie is such a disappointment. Johnny usually does better. Must be a "quick & dirty" contractual thing...

And thanks, M' Lady ShaniFayre for warning us in advance.
/I curtsey low/

ShaniFaye · 03-14-2006, 04:31 PM

hahahaha hunnychile, if I were in the movie I'd have pulled down my bodice and offered you a boob after that

hunnychile · 03-14-2006, 04:59 PM

Ha Ha! You are quite the Lady that knows so well! Best wishes from one of your Duchys on the West Coast.

Have you read "The Other Boleyn Girl" by Philippa Gregory? WOW, all i can say is wow!!
And no wonder I'm having such fun this week!

hunnchile.

ShaniFaye · 03-14-2006, 05:05 PM

no I havent....I will go check it out and see why its so "wow" lol

TylerDurden0083 · 03-15-2006, 02:01 PM

I can't read, well I can read, but I hate reading... I just don't like reading that much is what I am trying to say... TV is stinks, but I cant get enough COPS on CourtTV. ITs a vice..

Jadey · 03-24-2006, 12:55 PM

My gf and I saw this yesterday and I have to agree with everyone else. However, I would even go so far as to say that it's not even worth renting once it comes out on DVD. I was really disappointed becuase I usually like the movies Depp is in and think he picks interesting roles (although Secret Window was a slight disappointment). We snuck out of the theatre and into another movie becuase I felt ripped off. V for Vendetta made up for it.

The Libertine seemed to stray from the story line quite a bit and the movie as a whole was visually lacking. I also thought John Malcovich was less than Malcovich-like in the film.

03-01-2006, 10:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	The Libertine I saw a trailer for this last nite and it looks like a must see...then I imdb'd it today and saw that its been a "work in progress" for a few years and some people have actually seen some cuts of it and evidently this is a US release thats coming out in 9 days (March 10th) Has anyone seen any of the past showings of this. As its a Depp movie Im definately interested, enuff so that I will see it despite John Malkovich being in it (I cant stand that man!!). __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-01-2006, 12:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Malkovich was in the stage version at Steppenwolf several years back __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

03-10-2006, 03:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	So since Dave and I had the afternoon off, we went to see the first showing of the Libertine I was sadly sadly disappointed it was so boring we left after an hour. I couldnt stay awake. I have never in my life walked out of a movie but I just couldnt take anymore of it. The score was annoying, the acting was horrible the dialog was choppy and watching it was painful as the lighting is SO dark (doesnt look at all as bright as it does on the tv commercials) Dont pay to see this at the theater, if you think you NEED to see it cause you're a Depp fan, wait til it comes out on DVD so you can pause it to take a nap __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-10-2006, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Interesting... the reviews have been solid. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

03-10-2006, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Grasshopper Green ...is a comical chap Location: Where morons reign supreme	We saw it this afternoon before checking on reviews; our paper gave it one star out of four (I often disagree with the reviewer here, but one star is still iffy) I agree with Shani...we should have waited for DVD. A few people left the showing I attended. My main problem was there was no point. Everything seemed so random and certain scenes seemed like they were thrown in just for hell of it, with no rhyme or reason. Save your money and wait if you still want to see it. __________________ "They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings; steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king" Formerly Medusa

03-14-2006, 04:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	Theives and fops. (?)..geez, it sounds like you were a tourist in lower San Francisco, near the Mission/Embarcadero district. Sorry that the movie is such a disappointment. Johnny usually does better. Must be a "quick & dirty" contractual thing... And thanks, M' Lady ShaniFayre for warning us in advance. /I curtsey low/ __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

03-14-2006, 04:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	hahahaha hunnychile, if I were in the movie I'd have pulled down my bodice and offered you a boob after that __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-14-2006, 04:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	Ha Ha! You are quite the Lady that knows so well! Best wishes from one of your Duchys on the West Coast. Have you read "The Other Boleyn Girl" by Philippa Gregory? WOW, all i can say is wow!! And no wonder I'm having such fun this week! hunnchile. __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

03-14-2006, 05:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	no I havent....I will go check it out and see why its so "wow" lol __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-15-2006, 02:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
TylerDurden0083 Upright	I can't read, well I can read, but I hate reading... I just don't like reading that much is what I am trying to say... TV is stinks, but I cant get enough COPS on CourtTV. ITs a vice..

03-24-2006, 12:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jadey This Space For Rent Location: Davenport, Iowa	My gf and I saw this yesterday and I have to agree with everyone else. However, I would even go so far as to say that it's not even worth renting once it comes out on DVD. I was really disappointed becuase I usually like the movies Depp is in and think he picks interesting roles (although Secret Window was a slight disappointment). We snuck out of the theatre and into another movie becuase I felt ripped off. V for Vendetta made up for it. The Libertine seemed to stray from the story line quite a bit and the movie as a whole was visually lacking. I also thought John Malcovich was less than Malcovich-like in the film.