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jaker · 11-17-2005, 04:03 PM

here is an artwork that i have just finished creating. it's johann wolfgang von goethe's silhouette projected on the wall. the light that is aimed at the wall hits the trash that i hung from the ceiling with fishing wire and forms his shadow.

Mantus · 11-17-2005, 04:34 PM

I am totally speachless. WoW

How long did that take?

MexicanOnABike · 11-17-2005, 05:28 PM

nothing shows here...

cellophanedeity · 11-17-2005, 07:57 PM

I can't see this... But I want to! It sounds awesome.

jaker · 11-18-2005, 02:31 AM

magntus, i spent around 2 weeks working on the project, and have been planning on doing something with shadows for a little while longer. it was a project i did for the bauhaus universität.

MexicanOnABike · 11-18-2005, 09:44 AM

wow! that's nicee! i see it now.

Charlatan · 11-18-2005, 09:46 AM

I really like this... what a cool concept.

GoldenOuroboros · 11-18-2005, 04:37 PM

Excellent concept indeed, very well done!

onodrim · 11-18-2005, 04:50 PM

Very awesome!

majik_6 · 11-18-2005, 08:15 PM

That's incredible. Wow.

I really like the ambiance that this piece gives off (to me at least).

I always wish that I could do truly inspired work like this! Have you had much gallery or media exposure?

jaker · 11-19-2005, 01:56 AM

thank you, no, no gallery exposure. i am just a puny student

skier · 11-19-2005, 04:10 PM

Fantastic! Did you come up with this shadow form concept yourself?

hunnychile · 11-19-2005, 05:58 PM

Wow, that is really cool, dude! Very nice....

Thanks. Me...ooo...off to the easel...........0000.......

jaker · 11-20-2005, 07:34 AM

thanks for the compliments. skier, yes, i came up with the concept, but someone told me that some other artist in gross britian have already worked with shadows, i cannot remember right now what their names are...

KellyC · 11-20-2005, 12:28 PM

*bows* at jaker for being so damn creative.

cellophanedeity · 11-20-2005, 08:00 PM

That is superb. I love it.

Probably the best thing I've seen posted online.

tecoyah · 11-21-2005, 02:54 AM

Wicked cool....shows great skill

bermuDa · 11-21-2005, 03:05 AM

I can't remember where I saw it but this reminds me of a Japanese artist who created the shadow of a motorcycle with a huge pile of silverware. Very impressive work! Are you trying to say something about Goethe by making his silhouette with garbage?

Quiggles · 11-21-2005, 11:08 AM

i get it start backwards. that is the thing. may i commision a piece.

jaker · 11-21-2005, 12:03 PM

quiggles, no commisions =) i'm still not that desperate... maybe in a couple of years =/
bermuda: sure i am trying to say something about goethe, in a contemporary fashion. and i think it's also important to see this as an installation: it is in weimar, germany, where goethe spent almost 45 years of his life, and for the most part where he wrote faust and his philosophy on color theory. he has become a pop-status in weimar, and is now basically a tourist trap (much like strattford is for shakespeare, im sure). not only am i trying to scream out in a whisper that goethe's poetry was naive and 'eingebildet', but rather more trying to state that goethe's mystique or prescence in the city of weimar has become as banal and used-up as the trash that i throw away in my apartment.
please do not get me wrong, i very much like goethe. he created beautiful, dreamy poems and plays and some of the most profound literature, but he has his weak sides and realities that he chose to deny. if you are interested, look at some texts by einstein about goethe. he despised him =)

cinnles · 12-15-2005, 05:17 AM

that's way cool.

vonstalhein · 12-15-2005, 05:18 AM

I applaud your patience. I mean, i applaud the whole thing, but particularly your patience!!

Sultana · 12-15-2005, 12:33 PM

That is just too cool. How long did it take to create, and how does one preserve such a thing?

Slippery Slope · 12-15-2005, 03:43 PM

Wow! That's fantastic. You've an incredible talent there.

kramus · 12-15-2005, 08:03 PM

Great concept beautifully realized. I remember watching the Lion King musical when disparate elements suddenly came together to create the head of a great lion. Things forming with intent from such unintended sources is very moving. Congratulations jaker.

SecretMethod70 · 12-20-2005, 03:15 AM

Oh my GOD. I am in awe!
*applauds*
This is....awesome (see? told you I was in awe!

)
very very cool! Love the work, the concept, and the message you're trying to convey

jaker · 12-21-2005, 02:33 AM

sultana, the whole thing took about 2 weeks to create. it was very complicated to put together because the fishing wire was taped to the ceiling (or just tied in a knot) and sometimes i would come the next day and part of the sculpture had fallen down, so i had to start over again.
and when you walk by it, the whole thing moves from the air your movement creates, it's incredibly brittle :-/
thanks all for your comments, they are very kind and motivational, i want to work further now :-)

xepherys · 12-21-2005, 10:42 AM

jaker-

First, awesome piece!

Second, you said that the breeze of walking by it moves it. Would it be possible to use a fine wire? What limitations would you have with something other than string? What about two strings per piece to keep them in the right spots? I'm just curious...

Third... awesome piece!

11-17-2005, 04:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
jaker Crazy	goethe (fixed the picture) here is an artwork that i have just finished creating. it's johann wolfgang von goethe's silhouette projected on the wall. the light that is aimed at the wall hits the trash that i hung from the ceiling with fishing wire and forms his shadow. Last edited by jaker; 11-18-2005 at 02:29 AM..

11-17-2005, 05:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	nothing shows here... __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

11-18-2005, 09:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	wow! that's nicee! i see it now. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

11-18-2005, 09:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I really like this... what a cool concept. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

11-18-2005, 04:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
GoldenOuroboros The Cheshire Grin... Location: An Aussie Outback	Excellent concept indeed, very well done! __________________ Can you see me grin grin grrriiiiinnnning?!

11-17-2005, 04:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mantus lascivious	I am totally speachless. WoW How long did that take?

11-17-2005, 07:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
cellophanedeity Heliotrope Location: A warm room	I can't see this... But I want to! It sounds awesome.

11-18-2005, 02:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
jaker Crazy	magntus, i spent around 2 weeks working on the project, and have been planning on doing something with shadows for a little while longer. it was a project i did for the bauhaus universität.

11-18-2005, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
onodrim Cosmically Curious Location: Chicago, IL	Very awesome! __________________ "The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides" -Carl Sagan

11-18-2005, 08:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
majik_6 narcissist Location: looking in a mirror	That's incredible. Wow. I really like the ambiance that this piece gives off (to me at least). I always wish that I could do truly inspired work like this! Have you had much gallery or media exposure? __________________ it's all about self-indulgence

11-19-2005, 01:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
jaker Crazy	thank you, no, no gallery exposure. i am just a puny student

11-19-2005, 04:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
skier Rawr! Location: Edmontania	Fantastic! Did you come up with this shadow form concept yourself? __________________ "Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

11-19-2005, 05:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	Wow, that is really cool, dude! Very nice.... Thanks. Me...ooo...off to the easel...........0000....... __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

11-20-2005, 07:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
jaker Crazy	thanks for the compliments. skier, yes, i came up with the concept, but someone told me that some other artist in gross britian have already worked with shadows, i cannot remember right now what their names are...

11-20-2005, 12:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
KellyC Comment or else!! Location: Home sweet home	bows at jaker for being so damn creative. __________________ Him: Ok, I have to ask, what do you believe? Me: Shit happens.

11-21-2005, 02:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	Wicked cool....shows great skill __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

12-15-2005, 05:17 AM	#21 (permalink)
cinnles Addict	that's way cool.

12-15-2005, 12:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
Sultana Falling Angel Location: L.A. L.A. land	That is just too cool. How long did it take to create, and how does one preserve such a thing? __________________ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." - Matt Groening My goal? To fulfill my potential.

11-20-2005, 08:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
cellophanedeity Heliotrope Location: A warm room	That is superb. I love it. Probably the best thing I've seen posted online.

11-21-2005, 03:05 AM	#18 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	I can't remember where I saw it but this reminds me of a Japanese artist who created the shadow of a motorcycle with a huge pile of silverware. Very impressive work! Are you trying to say something about Goethe by making his silhouette with garbage? __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

11-21-2005, 11:08 AM	#19 (permalink)
Quiggles Insane Location: stabber , die	i get it start backwards. that is the thing. may i commision a piece. __________________ ten pot plants and a sex swing

11-21-2005, 12:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
jaker Crazy	quiggles, no commisions =) i'm still not that desperate... maybe in a couple of years =/ bermuda: sure i am trying to say something about goethe, in a contemporary fashion. and i think it's also important to see this as an installation: it is in weimar, germany, where goethe spent almost 45 years of his life, and for the most part where he wrote faust and his philosophy on color theory. he has become a pop-status in weimar, and is now basically a tourist trap (much like strattford is for shakespeare, im sure). not only am i trying to scream out in a whisper that goethe's poetry was naive and 'eingebildet', but rather more trying to state that goethe's mystique or prescence in the city of weimar has become as banal and used-up as the trash that i throw away in my apartment. please do not get me wrong, i very much like goethe. he created beautiful, dreamy poems and plays and some of the most profound literature, but he has his weak sides and realities that he chose to deny. if you are interested, look at some texts by einstein about goethe. he despised him =)

12-15-2005, 05:18 AM	#22 (permalink)
vonstalhein Insane Location: Where You Live.	I applaud your patience. I mean, i applaud the whole thing, but particularly your patience!! __________________ No Win No Fee

12-15-2005, 03:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
Slippery Slope Crazy	Wow! That's fantastic. You've an incredible talent there.

12-15-2005, 08:03 PM	#25 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	Great concept beautifully realized. I remember watching the Lion King musical when disparate elements suddenly came together to create the head of a great lion. Things forming with intent from such unintended sources is very moving. Congratulations jaker. __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

12-20-2005, 03:15 AM	#26 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Oh my GOD. I am in awe! applauds This is....awesome (see? told you I was in awe! ) very very cool! Love the work, the concept, and the message you're trying to convey __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

12-21-2005, 02:33 AM	#27 (permalink)
jaker Crazy	sultana, the whole thing took about 2 weeks to create. it was very complicated to put together because the fishing wire was taped to the ceiling (or just tied in a knot) and sometimes i would come the next day and part of the sculpture had fallen down, so i had to start over again. and when you walk by it, the whole thing moves from the air your movement creates, it's incredibly brittle :-/ thanks all for your comments, they are very kind and motivational, i want to work further now :-)

12-21-2005, 10:42 AM	#28 (permalink)
xepherys <3 TFP Location: 17TLH2445607250	jaker- First, awesome piece! Second, you said that the breeze of walking by it moves it. Would it be possible to use a fine wire? What limitations would you have with something other than string? What about two strings per piece to keep them in the right spots? I'm just curious... Third... awesome piece!