~springrain

I need to vent.

I just read a thread in Tilted Sports which you can find HERE

… it’s some bullshit about the president of the World Soccer Org. suggesting that women wear more revealing uniforms to increase male interest in the game.

It’s not this particular thread… it’s ALL the threads, articles, tv shows, and the like that need to box women into a sexual category. I am sick and tired of the opinion that women aren't interesting unless they are sexy -- or serving the male sex drive.

Listen, I am a sexual person. I like to experiment… I am free thinking… I am NOT against porn. Sometimes I like to be romantic and make love all gushy like… and sometimes I like to get down and dirty and just fuck like crazy. I believe in free expression and feel we could all give ourselves more permission to express and explore our sexuality. I am not saying that I am against sex or women being sexual.

What I am saying, and what I hate… is that so many men seem incapable of seeing a woman in any OTHER way than sexual. Many of us are extremely sexual, erotic, sensual beings… but that is only PART of who we are. A woman is much more than her breasts, vagina and behind. Or should I say, her tits, pussy and ass?

I’m just sick and tired of women being objectified. Most of the time, when a woman speaks up about this topic, she is labeled is “frigid”, “cold”, a “bitch” or countless other words that I am sure most of you ladies are familiar with. Men would be offended and irritated if women suggested that pro ball players play in g-strings, and not allow “fat ugly guys” into the league. So why can’t women be offended?

How many times have you been here on the forum and read a thread where the men are saying things like “I wouldn’t marry it, but I’d hit it”. WTF does that mean? Well, I know what it means… I’m just feeling irritated with their immaturity, self-centeredness and ignorance

I also get irritated with the women who just giggle and seem to brush it off as nothing.
Women are amazing creatures (no, I don’t mean more amazing then men, just unique in our own way).
We are lawyers, doctors, teachers, managers, clerks, entertainers, leaders, visionaries… the list could go on and on. We have the unique ability to nurture and give life… we are amazing and complex beings. So much more than "tit, ass, and pussy".

*deep breath*… ~ end rant.
Thanks for listening.

shannon

i feel weird about this kind of thing. i rarely feel affected. i mean i don't know if it's naive or what but i feel like when that kind of thinking goes on it's on some galaxy far far away. i might write again here later, because sometimes i can get into it but most times i just don't feel it. is that completely wrong?

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you vent all you want girl.....we are here for you

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~springrain

course not... it's just where you are right now... that is always ok *warm smile*

sillygirl

I usually get upset by that sort of bullshit also. I mean, if women have to play in revealing clothing just to get men's interest, fuck 'em anyway. I think it's stupid that we should just be there for male entertainment all the time. Why should WE have to be their game pieces, their eye candy? Why should WE have to stimulate THEM? If a man simply can't be interested in a woman's sport (of any kind) without the women wearing typical sportswear, then fine. DON'T WATCH THE FUCKING GAME.

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SiN

not wrong, and i totally understand.

i don't do that either..it's just, doesn't affect me and/or i don't give it that much thought...

and then, like now, if i think about it, i honestly don't feel much of a reaction. sure some men are 'pigs' and some women feed them, and men and women are equal and different and i enjoy those differences so long as they dont infringe on whatever i think is basic human respect etc...

do i make sense, or am i just babbling?

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~springrain

makes total sense... and i usually let it roll of my back...
it's not worth it to me to waste energy on someone who's not respecting me...

but every now and again i feel like i've just had it up to fucking here... know what i mean?

just needed to vent... thanks for the comments

Yalaynia

There are very few men in the world that think of a woman as an equal. I do truely hate the stereo types that men put on woman. I hate the thought of well your female you are going to stay barefoot and pregnant you jump to my every whime. My ex was like that, I felt like I was nothing to him but a sex toy. He wanted nothing to do with me day in day out but as soon as I got into bed he was all over me. I shoved him off. I thought about getting a job and I m sure I could have had a few but I didnt go after them because he said it wouldnt be a good idea and anything I made would have had to go pay a babysitter. Which is a valid point but I m 100% sure it was more along the lines that he just didnt want to have to take care of the kid when I was working. Course there were many other reasons as well but thats just one.

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UCF_Jill

Why does this remind me of "A league of their own"?

BlueBongo

I kinda teeter both ways on the issue, myself. Yeah it does suck.... but at the same time I don't really feed into it either. I'm having a hard enough time pleasing myself right now let alone worrying about what others, especially men, think of me.

But there are those men that are asses, just gotta ignore 'em.

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onodrim

Nope, not wrong, and I often feel the same way.

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sexymama

I sometimes wonder if it is a generation thing. You younger woman didn't have to fight for your freedoms. I watched my mother fight for hers! She needed and deserved a divorce, but couldn't get it due to the fact that she was a woman and couldn't support herself. As a result, I fought hard to be financially independent. I have succeeded -- which is very nice as I can state with total honesty that my love for Lebell is a choice, not a "have to."

Today's woman are so much luckier. They have a lot less "stereotyping" put on them. They have more opportunities and do not need to lower themselves to the "male standards" put on them by the few.

Woman definately deserve the same respect, pay, opportunities, etc. as men. Those are the key words -- as men. If we don't want men to treat us like sex objects (and let's face it, sometimes we all like to be treated that way -- well, at least I do) then we need to not act like sex objects and we need to treat men the way we want to be treated. I've heard plenty young ladies call my sons great "eye candy." It can be a two way road.

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~springrain

wow... great insight... and you are right sexymama ... i watched my mother fight for hers... literally... she was very involved in the women's movement. When i tell people today about some of the things i remember my mom being involved in, many of them are shocked, not realizing what kinds of rights we as women have been denied, even recently.

never thought of it that way... thanks again sexymama... gives me thoughts on a new thread actually *smile & hug*

wannabenakid247

I can see both sides of the coin. It really pisses me off sometimes the way some men treat women but it helps to remember that it isnt all men that do.

The thing is sometimes I think that some women encourage this sexism because they are so pre occupied with their appearance. I am being careful here because I understand it is not ALL women who are like this.

Some women though are so 'fluffy' that they do not see anything about themselves as important except how their ass and tits look, their make up and their hair. Some women don't think it is important to have intelligence and other important qualities.

I think this adds to the sexism of SOME men