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UCLA Study On Friendship Among Women

An alternative to fight or flight

©2002 Gale Berkowitz

A landmark UCLA study suggests friendships between women are special. They shape who we are and who we are yet to be. They soothe our tumultuous inner world, fill the emotional gaps in our marriage, and help us remember who we really are. By the way, they may do even more.
Scientists now suspect that hanging out with our friends can actually counteract the kind of stomach-quivering stress most of us experience on a daily basis. A landmark UCLA study suggests that women respond to stress with a cascade of brain chemicals that cause us to make and maintain friendships with other women. It's a stunning find that has turned five decades of stress research---most of it on men---upside down. Until this study was published, scientists generally believed that when people experience stress, they trigger a hormonal cascade that revs the body to either stand and fight or flee as fast as possible, explains Laura Cousin Klein, Ph.D., now an Assistant Professor of Biobehavioral Health at Penn State University and one of the study's authors. It's an ancient survival mechanism left over from the time we were chased across the planet by saber-toothed tigers.

Now the researchers suspect that women have a larger behavioral repertoire than just fight or flight; In fact, says Dr. Klein, it seems that when the hormone oxytocin is release as part of the stress responses in a woman, it buffers the fight or flight response and encourages her to tend children and gather with other women instead. When she actually engages in this tending or befriending, studies suggest that more oxytocin is released, which further counters stress and produces a calming effect. This calming response does not occur in men, says Dr. Klein, because testosterone---which men produce in high levels when they're under stress---seems to reduce the effects of oxytocin. Estrogen, she adds, seems to enhance it.

The discovery that women respond to stress differently than men was made in a classic "aha" moment shared by two women scientists who were talking one day in a lab at UCLA. There was this joke that when the women who worked in the lab were stressed, they came in, cleaned the lab, had coffee, and bonded, says Dr. Klein. When the men were stressed, they holed up somewhere on their own. I commented one day to fellow researcher Shelley Taylor that nearly 90% of the stress research is on males. I showed her the data from my lab, and the two of us knew instantly that we were onto something.

The women cleared their schedules and started meeting with one scientist after another from various research specialties. Very quickly, Drs. Klein and Taylor discovered that by not including women in stress research, scientists had made a huge mistake: The fact that women respond to stress differently than men has significant implications for our health.

It may take some time for new studies to reveal all the ways that oxytocin encourages us to care for children and hang out with other women, but the "tend and befriend" notion developed by Drs. Klein and Taylor may explain why women consistently outlive men. Study after study has found that social ties reduce our risk of disease by lowering blood pressure, heart rate, and cholesterol. There's no doubt, says Dr. Klein, that friends are helping us live longer.

In one study, for example, researchers found that people who had no friends increased their risk of death over a 6-month period. In another study, those who had the most friends over a 9-year period cut their risk of death by more than 60%.

Friends are also helping us live better. The famed Nurses' Health Study from Harvard Medical School found that the more friends women had, the less likely they were to develop physical impairments as they aged, and the more likely they were to be leading a joyful life. In fact, the results were so significant, the researchers concluded, that not having close friends or confidants was as detrimental to your health as smoking or carrying extra weight.

And that's not all. When the researchers looked at how well the women functioned after the death of their spouse, they found that even in the face of this biggest stressor of all, those women who had a close friend and confidante were more likely to survive the experience without any new physical impairments or permanent loss of vitality. Those without friends were not always so fortunate. Yet if friends counter the stress that seems to swallow up so much of our life these days, if they keep us healthy and even add years to our life, why is it so hard to find time to be with them? That's a question that also troubles researcher Ruthellen Josselson, Ph.D., co-author of Best Friends: The Pleasures and Perils of Girls' and Women's Friendships (Three Rivers Press, 1998). The following paragraph is, in my opinion, very, very true and something all women should be aware of and NOT put our female friends on the back burners.

Every time we get overly busy with work and family, the first thing we do is let go of friendships with other women, explains Dr. Josselson. We push the m right to the back burner. That's really a mistake because women are such a source of strength to each other. We nurture one another. And we need to have unpressured space in which we can do the special kind of talk that women do when they're with other women. It's a very healing experience.

Taylor, S. E., Klein, L.C., Lewis, B. P., Gruenewald, T. L., Gurung, R. A. R., & Updegraff, J. A. Female Responses to Stress: Tend and Befriend, Not Fight or Flight" Psychol Rev, 107(3):41-429.

Geary DC, Flinn MV. Sex differences in behavioral and hormonal response to social threat: commentary on Taylor et al. Psychol Rev 2002 Oct;109(4):745-50; discussion 751-3

Cousino Klein L, Corwin EJ. Seeing the unexpected: how sex differences in stress responses may provide a new perspective on the manifestation of psychiatric disorders. Curr Psychiatry Rep. 2002 Dec;4(6):441-8.

Do you find that your women friends lower your stress levels? It makes total sense to me, although I have a lot of friends of either gender who make me feel better when I'm stressed. Do you think this is specific to female-female friendships, or is it just that friends in general lower stress?

amonkie · 12-13-2003, 01:00 AM

I have a specific friend who I go to when I'm getting stressed- she does the same when she's stressed, and we find a way to relieve that stress. One week the solution was to take an impromptu road trip to L.A. But it general, I think just having anybody to talk to and take your mind OFF the stressful situation is very helpful.

wannabenakid247 · 12-13-2003, 11:42 AM

This is really wierd but sometimes i find men can relieve my stress better than women. other times its the other way around. Surely it depends on whats stressing you out extactly? Mind you women do have a lovely healing quality :wink:

Litespeed · 01-05-2004, 09:13 PM

This is an AWESOME article!
I experienced some of this today. I had a super stressful time at work this morning, came home for an unexpected lunch break, just to de-stress. When I got around my sis' kids and started talking to them things just got easier to deal with. I started calming down. I was able to get back to work and be happy. Bonding with my sister, bonding with her kids. Made for a great day the rest of the day at work.

I experienced a similar anti-stress technique when I was dealing with some misurable depression in high school. I started helping out in a second-grade classroom a couple of days every week and things just got better. A zillion little hugs just make an impact.

Unga · 01-05-2004, 10:47 PM

I learned a while back in a magazine or something that females calm down when sniffing a guy 'cause of some hormone their hair folicles release. So ladies, take a biiiig whiff!

Hash_Browns · 01-07-2004, 07:43 AM

dbl. post...sorry

Hash_Browns · 01-07-2004, 07:45 AM

I agree that the friendship part doesn't have to be a specific gender, but can vary more by how close you are with that particular 'friend'. I have always been more comfortable around guys, and most of my girlfriends have hated me for it because there were times I'd go to hang with them, and bullshit the night away with their boyfriends because I knew about cars and all that! But being able to discuss those kinds of non-essential things, meaning topics that don't have a cause and effect on whatever is stressing me out-distractions, are always what I need. With girls friends, for me anyways, it's always about what's causing the stress or adding more by having to play catch-up or appologize for something that happened months ago...yadda yadda!

Thanks for the article lurkette

12-11-2003, 11:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
lurkette My future is coming on Moderator Emeritus Location: east of the sun and west of the moon	Women handle stress differently than men (duh!) <a href="http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/gender/tendfend.html">http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/gender/tendfend.html</a> Melissa Kaplan's Chronic Neuroimmune Diseases Information on CFS, FM, MCS, and more... Last updated February 2, 2003 UCLA Study On Friendship Among Women An alternative to fight or flight ©2002 Gale Berkowitz A landmark UCLA study suggests friendships between women are special. They shape who we are and who we are yet to be. They soothe our tumultuous inner world, fill the emotional gaps in our marriage, and help us remember who we really are. By the way, they may do even more. Scientists now suspect that hanging out with our friends can actually counteract the kind of stomach-quivering stress most of us experience on a daily basis. A landmark UCLA study suggests that women respond to stress with a cascade of brain chemicals that cause us to make and maintain friendships with other women. It's a stunning find that has turned five decades of stress research---most of it on men---upside down. Until this study was published, scientists generally believed that when people experience stress, they trigger a hormonal cascade that revs the body to either stand and fight or flee as fast as possible, explains Laura Cousin Klein, Ph.D., now an Assistant Professor of Biobehavioral Health at Penn State University and one of the study's authors. It's an ancient survival mechanism left over from the time we were chased across the planet by saber-toothed tigers. Now the researchers suspect that women have a larger behavioral repertoire than just fight or flight; In fact, says Dr. Klein, it seems that when the hormone oxytocin is release as part of the stress responses in a woman, it buffers the fight or flight response and encourages her to tend children and gather with other women instead. When she actually engages in this tending or befriending, studies suggest that more oxytocin is released, which further counters stress and produces a calming effect. This calming response does not occur in men, says Dr. Klein, because testosterone---which men produce in high levels when they're under stress---seems to reduce the effects of oxytocin. Estrogen, she adds, seems to enhance it. The discovery that women respond to stress differently than men was made in a classic "aha" moment shared by two women scientists who were talking one day in a lab at UCLA. There was this joke that when the women who worked in the lab were stressed, they came in, cleaned the lab, had coffee, and bonded, says Dr. Klein. When the men were stressed, they holed up somewhere on their own. I commented one day to fellow researcher Shelley Taylor that nearly 90% of the stress research is on males. I showed her the data from my lab, and the two of us knew instantly that we were onto something. The women cleared their schedules and started meeting with one scientist after another from various research specialties. Very quickly, Drs. Klein and Taylor discovered that by not including women in stress research, scientists had made a huge mistake: The fact that women respond to stress differently than men has significant implications for our health. It may take some time for new studies to reveal all the ways that oxytocin encourages us to care for children and hang out with other women, but the "tend and befriend" notion developed by Drs. Klein and Taylor may explain why women consistently outlive men. Study after study has found that social ties reduce our risk of disease by lowering blood pressure, heart rate, and cholesterol. There's no doubt, says Dr. Klein, that friends are helping us live longer. In one study, for example, researchers found that people who had no friends increased their risk of death over a 6-month period. In another study, those who had the most friends over a 9-year period cut their risk of death by more than 60%. Friends are also helping us live better. The famed Nurses' Health Study from Harvard Medical School found that the more friends women had, the less likely they were to develop physical impairments as they aged, and the more likely they were to be leading a joyful life. In fact, the results were so significant, the researchers concluded, that not having close friends or confidants was as detrimental to your health as smoking or carrying extra weight. And that's not all. When the researchers looked at how well the women functioned after the death of their spouse, they found that even in the face of this biggest stressor of all, those women who had a close friend and confidante were more likely to survive the experience without any new physical impairments or permanent loss of vitality. Those without friends were not always so fortunate. Yet if friends counter the stress that seems to swallow up so much of our life these days, if they keep us healthy and even add years to our life, why is it so hard to find time to be with them? That's a question that also troubles researcher Ruthellen Josselson, Ph.D., co-author of Best Friends: The Pleasures and Perils of Girls' and Women's Friendships (Three Rivers Press, 1998). The following paragraph is, in my opinion, very, very true and something all women should be aware of and NOT put our female friends on the back burners. Every time we get overly busy with work and family, the first thing we do is let go of friendships with other women, explains Dr. Josselson. We push the m right to the back burner. That's really a mistake because women are such a source of strength to each other. We nurture one another. And we need to have unpressured space in which we can do the special kind of talk that women do when they're with other women. It's a very healing experience. Taylor, S. E., Klein, L.C., Lewis, B. P., Gruenewald, T. L., Gurung, R. A. R., & Updegraff, J. A. Female Responses to Stress: Tend and Befriend, Not Fight or Flight" Psychol Rev, 107(3):41-429. Geary DC, Flinn MV. Sex differences in behavioral and hormonal response to social threat: commentary on Taylor et al. Psychol Rev 2002 Oct;109(4):745-50; discussion 751-3 Cousino Klein L, Corwin EJ. Seeing the unexpected: how sex differences in stress responses may provide a new perspective on the manifestation of psychiatric disorders. Curr Psychiatry Rep. 2002 Dec;4(6):441-8. Do you find that your women friends lower your stress levels? It makes total sense to me, although I have a lot of friends of either gender who make me feel better when I'm stressed. Do you think this is specific to female-female friendships, or is it just that friends in general lower stress? __________________ "If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France

12-13-2003, 01:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	I have a specific friend who I go to when I'm getting stressed- she does the same when she's stressed, and we find a way to relieve that stress. One week the solution was to take an impromptu road trip to L.A. But it general, I think just having anybody to talk to and take your mind OFF the stressful situation is very helpful. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

01-07-2004, 07:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hash_Browns Psycho Location: Right behind you...BOO!	dbl. post...sorry __________________ Smile It makes people wonder what you're up too! Last edited by Hash_Browns; 01-07-2004 at 07:46 AM..

01-07-2004, 07:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hash_Browns Psycho Location: Right behind you...BOO!	I agree that the friendship part doesn't have to be a specific gender, but can vary more by how close you are with that particular 'friend'. I have always been more comfortable around guys, and most of my girlfriends have hated me for it because there were times I'd go to hang with them, and bullshit the night away with their boyfriends because I knew about cars and all that! But being able to discuss those kinds of non-essential things, meaning topics that don't have a cause and effect on whatever is stressing me out-distractions, are always what I need. With girls friends, for me anyways, it's always about what's causing the stress or adding more by having to play catch-up or appologize for something that happened months ago...yadda yadda! Thanks for the article lurkette __________________ Smile It makes people wonder what you're up too!

12-13-2003, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
wannabenakid247 Registered User Location: Wales, UK	This is really wierd but sometimes i find men can relieve my stress better than women. other times its the other way around. Surely it depends on whats stressing you out extactly? Mind you women do have a lovely healing quality :wink:

01-05-2004, 09:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Litespeed Loser Location: Thousand Oaks, CA	This is an AWESOME article! I experienced some of this today. I had a super stressful time at work this morning, came home for an unexpected lunch break, just to de-stress. When I got around my sis' kids and started talking to them things just got easier to deal with. I started calming down. I was able to get back to work and be happy. Bonding with my sister, bonding with her kids. Made for a great day the rest of the day at work. I experienced a similar anti-stress technique when I was dealing with some misurable depression in high school. I started helping out in a second-grade classroom a couple of days every week and things just got better. A zillion little hugs just make an impact.

01-05-2004, 10:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Unga Crazy	I learned a while back in a magazine or something that females calm down when sniffing a guy 'cause of some hormone their hair folicles release. So ladies, take a biiiig whiff!