06-14-2005, 02:00 PM | #43 (permalink) | |
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06-14-2005, 02:29 PM | #44 (permalink) |
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I think MJ is a child molester.
I also think he was not guilty of what he was accused of, or at least the evidence was such that it didn't go beyond a reasonable doubt. This is a case of the system working.
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06-14-2005, 04:26 PM | #45 (permalink) |
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I am not at all surprised by the verdict. The prosecution failed to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. Jackson may be very weird, but I don't think he's a pedophile--or if he is, I don't think he's dumb enough to do something that would get him caught.
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06-14-2005, 05:23 PM | #46 (permalink) |
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I believe that none of us know whether he did molest those children...
hell, if he did it, those kids were given so much booze, they probably don't know either.. In any case, my opinion is that whether he did it or not, he thought about it on more than one occasion.... to prove that he actually molested those kids back in the mid nineties is going to be quite difficult. But I don't care. Parents shouldn't be stupid enough to let their kids hang out with a mentally deranged adult who has a Peter Pan complex. It doesn't make sense... |
06-14-2005, 05:37 PM | #47 (permalink) | |
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06-14-2005, 05:57 PM | #49 (permalink) | |
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Or maybe, in truth, the parents of the kids that were ALLOWED to sleep with him should have been on trial for pimping their kids to Wacko Jacko.
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06-14-2005, 06:40 PM | #50 (permalink) | |
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06-14-2005, 07:38 PM | #51 (permalink) |
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This case is a great example of a simple, fundamental aspect of criminal court cases. There's three verdicts that can happen:
1. Found Guilty 2. Found Not Guilty 3. Found Innocent If you're guilty in a criminal case, the prosecution has proven without a reasonable doubt that you have committed the crime. If you're not guilty in a criminal case, the prosecution has found evidence that insinuates a guilty subject, but does NOT have enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. If you're found innocent, the defense has proven without a reasonable doubt that the person is innocent. In this case, it's obvious that the plaintiff's prosecutors couldn't find enough evidence to prove him guilty without a reasonable doubt. <B>This does not mean Jacko is innocent...it means there is not enough evidence to prove him guilty 90% or more</B>. He may have won the court case, but he is anything but innocent by the court of law. I don't know anything about his trial, but again, this is a perfect example of how our legal system works and how it is upheld. -Lasereth
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06-15-2005, 06:00 AM | #52 (permalink) | |
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I'm quite surpised at the amount of negative opinion being formed about him. Yeah, he's weird, very weird, but he loves kids (don't twist that sentence) - why does that make him a child molester? I really don't see it. You are shouting blue murder at the verdict. Sure, there's a bit of smoke. Sleeping with kids in your bed is smoke in the eyes of the anti-paedophile-crazed media and world that we are now in, but that does not mean he did anything to them that was sexual.
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06-15-2005, 09:11 AM | #54 (permalink) | |
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They should have locked him up anyway. I'm sure he has molested kids in the past if not this particular time. |
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06-15-2005, 09:27 AM | #55 (permalink) | |
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That would be everything the system isn't. They couldn't convict on what they thought he did in the past. His trial wasn't about if they thought he molested in the past, it was he molested the boy that in this particular instance. If you could convict people on their pasts, there's few people who would not go to jail for something. |
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06-15-2005, 10:35 AM | #57 (permalink) | |
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this jury didn't take 4 and a half hours to reach a verdict. it took them nearly 40 hours of deliberation last I'd heard. they started off split, and they came to a conclusion. this isn't a case of civil law where preponderence of the evidence comes into play. it's criminal court where the "beyond a reasonable doubt" tenet comes into play. do i think he did it? maybe this time, and definitely in the past. do i think there's a good chance the mother was simply trying to make a big enough deal of her bad parenting to get MJ to settle out of court? absolutely a reasonable thought, therefore throwing doubt on the prosecution.
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