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Old 04-09-2005, 09:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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okay tonight i was in a bar that is expected to be pretty crowded on a saturday night....

but i am a regular there and my brother is a bartender and 5 of my buddys are bar backs / bouncers there....


well i was there since about 8:30pm and about an hour after i got there a group comes in and is basically bumping into me every 10 seconds....so after about 45 mins of it i happen to turn around and the guy that keeps bumping me happens to look at me....so i say " hey buddy can u give me a little space"

he gives me a smart ass response saying basically he is trying to rub his ass against me.....

so i turn my attention back to my friend and my beer.......



this is only the 2nd time in 5 years of going to bars that i have almost gotten into a fight....

and he would been at a real disadvantage....


i was there with 1 other buddy.......but behind me was a guy im friends with and work with that had a possie of 10 guys....and i knew about 10 other people at the bar.....


i kept an eye on him from time to time all night and he only has his buddy and his gf there....

no big deal


well maybe 5 mins later i hear him say to his gf...u better give him his space...

so i turn around and respond......something like calling him a smart ass


he supposeably appolygies but is a wise ass about it.....so i respond....

he then calls a buddy of his over and starts to talk shit .......

outta all things he makes fun of my pants lol....(ill admit i am fashionalby challenged.....im wearing gap cargo pants from about 3 years ago...)


well finally he decides to move to a different area of the bar...

so anyway on the way to the bath room i see a friend of mine that works there as a bouncer and i tell him to keep an eye on my back in case this guy wants to cause a problem again so he can get ejected.....


was it rude of me to ask a guy to give me a little space...isnt it just common courtsey?


i know people bump into you at a busy bar but this was redicoulus it was constant for about 45 mins.....


and he could moved at any time because the other side of the bar was open....

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Old 04-09-2005, 10:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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no, it wasn't rude. I think you handled that well. If you were not firm, he prolly would just just told you to fuck off, or hit you, I've seen it happen.

a lot of people in your shoes would have just cracked a bottle over the guys head, thats the way society is going.
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Old 04-09-2005, 10:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yea, I definately think you were doing the right thing he was just being an asshole, probably trying to show off in front of his g/f
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh man, I hate these type of situations. My question is, what would you have done if you didn't have all that "back up"?

Do you suck it up, leave, challenge it?
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If he's rubbing his ass on you and commenting on your pants, I'd be more concerned that he might have asked you over to hear his Barbra Streisand collection...
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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and he could moved at any time because the other side of the bar was open....
Not to point out the obvious -- but so could have you...

Getting into a fight over "He's touching me" seems like what we did in the back seat of my parents car on long car trips... It's just not worth it, ya did good.
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Old 04-10-2005, 07:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I see no problem with how you handled the situation. If I bump into someone who was sitting or standing in a place before I got there, I appologize and move so that it doesn't happen again. I don't think its unreasonable for you to expect the same courtesy and to say something should the violation continue.
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Old 04-10-2005, 07:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh man, I hate these type of situations. My question is, what would you have done if you didn't have all that "back up"?

Do you suck it up, leave, challenge it?


good question any other bar but there i dont know what i would do....im not a small guy 210 pounds at 6'4" but i am the type of person to avoid conflicts....

im sure i woulda still said something initially but i prolly woulda moved...or left the bar after he started saying shit.....im not about to stand with my back to someone if i dont have a few friends in the place....
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Old 04-10-2005, 07:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's not hard to say, excuse me, "Would you mind not bumping into me." When people don't respond, remind them again. Immediately

But 45 minutes? Then that's your problem.
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Old 04-11-2005, 12:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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prolly cuz im used to being in busy bars....i might have exagerated when i said 45 mins...but it was a significant amount of time at regular frequency.....

and it was more like he was brushing up against me.....i doubt it was intentional (unless he was a homo) it was prolly more like when people were walking pass him he would back up a few inches and brush into me...so its not something i would say something to him on the first couple of times.....

it just happened that my buddy said "man your really getting smushed in there" and i happened to turn and he was looking my way....


it wasnt meant at all to be aggressive or to put him down it was just to say reposition or something...he just being a drunk ahole decided he looked bad infront of his gf....and hadda try to make fun of me....
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Old 04-11-2005, 12:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Dude, you had every right to ask the guy to quick bumping into you. Lets face it, you're there with your buddies and you're tight with the bar staff so you shouldn't have to put up with shit. Not that anybody has to fight, but in a situation like that it should be no problem for a guy to stand up for himself and bounce the jerk if he needs to be bounced.
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Old 04-11-2005, 01:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You had a right to ask..but you could have moved. I can't really say anything though because I would have ended up in a fight. You did well.
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Old 04-11-2005, 01:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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A buddy of mine got his beer spilled in a crowd like you are describing. Read on:

He told the guy "You owe me a beer" in a casual tone.

The guy replied "Go fuck yourself"

My buddy decided that it was necessary to defend the honour of this spilled beer, and asked the young man to step outside. My two buddies followed (I was not there, thankfully)

The guy met him outside with NINE of his friends, resulting in a 10-on-3 shitkicking.

Buddy 1: two black eyes. He was lucky and talented in the ass-kicking department.
Buddy 2: Jaw wired shut for 7 weeks. He said he did better than he looked, since he folded one guy's knee the wrong way and he had several teeth embedded in his elbow. He got an infection in that elbow though.
Buddy 3: (the one who needed to avenge his beer) was admitted to the hospital, and the doctor said "We are going to have to administer injection anti-inflammitories. If that doesn't bring the swelling down in about 8 hours, you are going to lose them, son..." He went for a CT scan, and luckily they were able to avoid an amputation.....




ON HIS TESTICLES.

All over a 2.50 beer. I laughed when I went to visit him in the hospital, and said "Next time, let me buy you a beer. From now on, just tell me 'Ben, someone spilled my beer. You owe me five bucks' and we'll call it even."
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Old 04-11-2005, 02:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Man o man, Ben, what a horror story. These situations absolutely terrify me. It's why I don't really go out anymore.

How do you "resolve" these situations without violence and lokking like a pussy either? Especially if there are women involved....

In that situation, would you have "asked" the guy who spilled on you to compensate for the beer? (seems reasonable to me) And when he replies, 'Fuck you", then what? Forget about it? Call the bartender? Swallow pride and turn back around? What if you're with chicks?
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Old 04-11-2005, 05:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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sober i would never get into a fight unless i am forced to defend myself...but once the stupid juice gets in you its a whole new game....

there is a list of places i refuse to goto now...

loews in a urban section of the area i live...i have gotten into arguements with people in the past over being obnoxious while in the theater....and what i came to realize it isnt worth getting stabbed or having to worry about getting stabbed while sitting in a movie theater....

another bar i refuse to goto now...a buddy of mine got sucker punched and jumped by a few guys that recognzied him from work....

its not worth for me to get into an argument an embarrassing myself and my job if something came outta it...
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