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The_Dude · 05-22-2003, 07:41 PM

seems like it at least.

almost every pornstar that i know has done a bi scene that i've watched, i cant think of any that havent.

so, is it now a requirement to be bi to be a pornstar?

btw, i'm just talking about girls here.

spectre · 05-22-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
Are all pornstars bi?

Only if you pay them enough.

Halx · 05-22-2003, 07:54 PM

In the porn industry, we call it "GAY FOR PAY"

Learn the phrase, we use it a lot.

MSD · 05-22-2003, 08:03 PM

Anyone will be anything if you pay them enough.

rogue49 · 05-22-2003, 08:04 PM

Pornstars?
Hell, I've noticed most of Hollywood is bi, men & women.
My theory is that most of the people living there are into instant gratification.
So, whatever is at "hand", so to speak.
Or is it because they tend to be more open & aggressive there?
Who knows?

Oh well, whatever floats your boat.
Doesn't bother me a bit.

Meridae'n · 05-22-2003, 08:06 PM

I don't reckon I'd go and shell out the spondoolahs for a flick that has 7 girls and one guy, and all the girls wait patiently in line for their turn...

charlesesl · 05-22-2003, 09:31 PM

Well, people are influenced by their enviroments, when porn stars have to tough each other frequently on stage. it ll be no wonder that their sexual orientation will be shifted

BBtB · 05-22-2003, 11:15 PM

Well the thing you have to remember is why did they get into porn in the first place? Well atleast one reason is they probably enjoy sex more so then the average person. And as I have found Bi girls are often so because of their sheer lust. Trust me I dated one

Not that I am trying to say all bi girls are horny little bitches. But alot are. Plus they got paid a shizzle my nizzle amount of money. Which also helps.

SecretMethod70 · 05-22-2003, 11:21 PM

Not to sound repetitive but it's all about the money. They get paid one thing for a blow job, another for normal sex, another for lesbian sex, another for peeing, another for fisting, etc. All these little extra things mean more and more money for them.

suviko · 05-23-2003, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by BBtB
Well the thing you have to remember is why did they get into porn in the first place? Well atleast one reason is they probably enjoy sex more so then the average person.

I agree. Someone who totally hates sex would rather starve. It is probable IMO also that pornstarlets are exhibitionists and like displaying their bodies and get satisfaction from people looking at them and thinking they are hot. I would also assume this kind of person also likes to look at beautiful bodies (and compete with them).

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And as I have found Bi girls are often so because of their sheer lust. Trust me I dated one Not that I am trying to say all bi girls are horny little bitches. But alot are.

Ho-hummmm... I think this is because the ones who are open about their bisexuality and will say it are "horny bitches". Also, what is the definition of bisexual? Do you need actively pursue it or does it count if you sometimes daydream or like looking at babes in mags? The latter kind of (semi)bisexuality is extremely common in my experience.

troit · 05-23-2003, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by suviko

Ho-hummmm... I think this is because the ones who are open about their bisexuality and will say it are "horny bitches". Also, what is the definition of bisexual? Do you need actively pursue it or does it count if you sometimes daydream or like looking at babes in mags? The latter kind of (semi)bisexuality is extremely common in my experience.

I completely agree with this comment suviko -- but believe it is driven by society. Females are held at a higher standard than males in terms of appearance than males.

mtsgsd · 05-23-2003, 06:32 AM

I remember reading an interview with John Lesleigh (sp?) a loong time ago where he said that when he began, male actors were required to do homosexual movies when they first started out. It seems like he had implied that it was the only way the movies could get made because of the lack or shortage of gay actors. I wonder if that's still done?
It certainly seems that all actresses are required or expected to do bi scenes. That doesn't make them bi though. It just means they're at least willing to do it for a movie.
And why do they have to be horny bitches if they're in movies? It's a job and as such it isn't always enjoyable. Try reading Asia Carrera's comments about the business on her web site. Not a lot of fun, even for the guys.

suviko · 05-23-2003, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by troit
I completely agree with this comment suviko -- but believe it is driven by society. Females are held at a higher standard than males in terms of appearance than males.

Yeah, totally. And it's unfair.

Imagine some celebrity female doing something wild with another woman in the MTV Awards after parties. Some tabloids will make an issue, but nothing big comes out of it in the long run. If some male celeb does the same, Good God! He's labelled gay automatically and media will make it look like he has now came out of the closet and always been a gay and just putting up an act in public, and then they will go on to speculate is he a child molester too.

Yippee.. All hail equality of genders & sexual liberation... Bah!

Charlatan · 05-23-2003, 08:59 AM

It is a truism that two men together are something to be disgusted by and women together are just more eye candy (therefore arousing)...

As a guy I totally get this... it is instinct. However, the more I've thought on it over the years the less I truly understand it. There was a period in the 70s where bi was all the rage for music types like Bowie and other glam rockers... I've always been facinated that it just didn't seem to matter all that much...

That sort of thing just couldn't happen today.

BTW: Suviko's comment " Also, what is the definition of bisexual? Do you need actively pursue it or does it count if you sometimes daydream or like looking at babes in mags?"

I'm not sure how to define it... I would put myself in the daydream catagory as well. I'm not so interested in acting it out as I am thinking about the possibility... sex is sex and sex is good.

FuddMan · 05-24-2003, 01:41 PM

gay for pay...I doubt that would break the ego of some male stars

mrap1 · 05-24-2003, 11:57 PM

You guys have been mainly concentrating on bi-women in the porn industry, but I read somewhere that a lot of the guys are bi also. I mean think about it, if there's a gang bang scene the guys have to be in close proximity to each other's *wang*. I would say that most men that aren't bi would be very uncomfortable in this type of a situation. And most men in porn have probably done some kind of a 2 on 1 scene, ergo, most men in porn are also bi.

manalone · 05-25-2003, 03:33 AM

I think that there is a confusion here. To my mind (and from accounts I have read), porn sets bear little relationship to real sexual exncounter.

In other words, it's a job. The stars just have to perform for the cameras, then leave. Sure they enjoy it (some more than others), but the point is that the professional sexual history and personal sexual history are, from an intellectual perspective, disjoint.

The real factor for this is in the fact that the determining factor for the male star was (and to a lesser extent, is still) ability to remain erect in a too cold outdoor/too hot indoor set while sound checks, cameramen and assistant directors as well as a horde of other people watch or eat or whatever.

Well, that's my impression, anyway.

As for the definition of bisexual, well, in this case I would say someone who is sexually attracted to both genders. Not necessarily both equally. Social principle places men's sexual practice under a spotlight that makes any hint of homosexuality a salacious scandal, while lesbianism continues to be the "stealth-orientation", largely ignored in reality, apart from the occasional scandal shot.

Women are permitted to be more sexually liberal in terms of orientation, because lesbians are not seen as a real orientation, while the penetrative nature of male homosexual relations make them a far deeper taboo.

</rant>

05-22-2003, 07:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	Are all pornstars bi? seems like it at least. almost every pornstar that i know has done a bi scene that i've watched, i cant think of any that havent. so, is it now a requirement to be bi to be a pornstar? btw, i'm just talking about girls here. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

05-22-2003, 07:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	In the porn industry, we call it "GAY FOR PAY" Learn the phrase, we use it a lot. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

05-22-2003, 08:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Meridae'n Loose Cunt Location: North Bondi RSL	I don't reckon I'd go and shell out the spondoolahs for a flick that has 7 girls and one guy, and all the girls wait patiently in line for their turn... __________________ What's easier to believe: that a guy was born without sex in the manner of several Greek demigods and grew up to be able to transmute liquids and alter his body density yet couldn't escape government execution, or that three freemasons in a vehicle made with aluminum foil in an era before digital technology escaped our atmosphere, landing on the moon, broadcasted from there, and then flew back without burning up?

05-22-2003, 09:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
charlesesl Psycho	Well, people are influenced by their enviroments, when porn stars have to tough each other frequently on stage. it ll be no wonder that their sexual orientation will be shifted __________________ It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. Dr. Viktor E. Frankl

05-22-2003, 11:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
BBtB ClerkMan! Location: Tulsa, Ok.	Well the thing you have to remember is why did they get into porn in the first place? Well atleast one reason is they probably enjoy sex more so then the average person. And as I have found Bi girls are often so because of their sheer lust. Trust me I dated one Not that I am trying to say all bi girls are horny little bitches. But alot are. Plus they got paid a shizzle my nizzle amount of money. Which also helps. __________________ Meridae'n once played "death" at a game of chess that lasted for over two years. He finally beat death in a best 34 out of 67 match. At that time he could ask for any one thing and he could wish for the hope of all mankind... he looked death right in the eye and said ... "I would like about three fiddy"

05-22-2003, 08:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Anyone will be anything if you pay them enough.

05-22-2003, 08:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
rogue49 Loser	Pornstars? Hell, I've noticed most of Hollywood is bi, men & women. My theory is that most of the people living there are into instant gratification. So, whatever is at "hand", so to speak. Or is it because they tend to be more open & aggressive there? Who knows? Oh well, whatever floats your boat. Doesn't bother me a bit.

05-22-2003, 11:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Not to sound repetitive but it's all about the money. They get paid one thing for a blow job, another for normal sex, another for lesbian sex, another for peeing, another for fisting, etc. All these little extra things mean more and more money for them. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

05-23-2003, 06:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
mtsgsd Addict Location: Wisconsin, USA	I remember reading an interview with John Lesleigh (sp?) a loong time ago where he said that when he began, male actors were required to do homosexual movies when they first started out. It seems like he had implied that it was the only way the movies could get made because of the lack or shortage of gay actors. I wonder if that's still done? It certainly seems that all actresses are required or expected to do bi scenes. That doesn't make them bi though. It just means they're at least willing to do it for a movie. And why do they have to be horny bitches if they're in movies? It's a job and as such it isn't always enjoyable. Try reading Asia Carrera's comments about the business on her web site. Not a lot of fun, even for the guys.

05-23-2003, 08:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	It is a truism that two men together are something to be disgusted by and women together are just more eye candy (therefore arousing)... As a guy I totally get this... it is instinct. However, the more I've thought on it over the years the less I truly understand it. There was a period in the 70s where bi was all the rage for music types like Bowie and other glam rockers... I've always been facinated that it just didn't seem to matter all that much... That sort of thing just couldn't happen today. BTW: Suviko's comment " Also, what is the definition of bisexual? Do you need actively pursue it or does it count if you sometimes daydream or like looking at babes in mags?" I'm not sure how to define it... I would put myself in the daydream catagory as well. I'm not so interested in acting it out as I am thinking about the possibility... sex is sex and sex is good. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

05-24-2003, 01:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
FuddMan Crazy Location: USA	gay for pay...I doubt that would break the ego of some male stars

05-24-2003, 11:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
mrap1 Insane Location: NY	You guys have been mainly concentrating on bi-women in the porn industry, but I read somewhere that a lot of the guys are bi also. I mean think about it, if there's a gang bang scene the guys have to be in close proximity to each other's wang. I would say that most men that aren't bi would be very uncomfortable in this type of a situation. And most men in porn have probably done some kind of a 2 on 1 scene, ergo, most men in porn are also bi.

05-25-2003, 03:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
manalone Once upon a time...	I think that there is a confusion here. To my mind (and from accounts I have read), porn sets bear little relationship to real sexual exncounter. In other words, it's a job. The stars just have to perform for the cameras, then leave. Sure they enjoy it (some more than others), but the point is that the professional sexual history and personal sexual history are, from an intellectual perspective, disjoint. The real factor for this is in the fact that the determining factor for the male star was (and to a lesser extent, is still) ability to remain erect in a too cold outdoor/too hot indoor set while sound checks, cameramen and assistant directors as well as a horde of other people watch or eat or whatever. Well, that's my impression, anyway. As for the definition of bisexual, well, in this case I would say someone who is sexually attracted to both genders. Not necessarily both equally. Social principle places men's sexual practice under a spotlight that makes any hint of homosexuality a salacious scandal, while lesbianism continues to be the "stealth-orientation", largely ignored in reality, apart from the occasional scandal shot. Women are permitted to be more sexually liberal in terms of orientation, because lesbians are not seen as a real orientation, while the penetrative nature of male homosexual relations make them a far deeper taboo. </rant> __________________ -- Man Alone ======= Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.