AfterBurn

I'm thinking of going to a doctor and getting a perscription for valium since I've heard it helps you calm down and makes you relaxed which is perfect for exams. Has anyone went out and got a perscription for valium? If so what did you say to the doctor and how many mg's did you get?

Also whats the difference between valium and xanax?

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Carno

Smoking a joint works just as well

AfterBurn

nah, weed makes you high and it's pretty noticible that youve blazed..

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pinkie

Valium is for anxiety and anxiety related disorders, so is Xanax. Neither would be good for studying because they can make you pretty disoriented and sleepy. I doubt a doctor would just give them to you for finals, but you never know.

Blackthorn

From the Physician's Desk Reference (PDR):

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AfterBurn

from what i hear valium is excelent for relaxing/chilling out. I'm extremly stressed during exam time and something to take the edge off once a while like valium wouldn hurt, and i'm pretty sure it'd be useful other than exam time...How'd you get a prescription for valium, pinkie?

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skier

not sure if you read this bit but...

Valium may cause you to become drowsy or less alert; therefore, you should not drive or operate dangerous machinery or participate in any hazardous activity that requires full mental alertness until you know how this drug affects you.

Do you want to study/take tests with your mental capacity compromised? I think if you took it you might miss important concepts/points from skipping over them.

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Blackthorn

Try adding exercise to your daily routine. It will help you relax and work out the stresses of the day. It will also help you with concentration and mental alertness among the other many benefits of being physically active. If you are bent on trying Valium you'll need to visit your Dr. for a script.

Oh yeah...in case you missed this:

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AfterBurn

I'm not planning to take it during the exam, just the days before the exam like after studying or whatever.

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greytone

Valium is one of the benzodiazepam anxiety medications. Along with alcohol (which works at the same receptor) they are the only class of drug that can be fatal in withdrawl. They are both psychologically and physically very addictive. They are also very important and helpfull when used correctly. Since they have a significant effect on memory probably should get some for exams. That way you can fail out of school now and relieve yourself of the source of your anxiety quickly. You are looking for the easy answer, aren't you?

If you think you have anxiety to deal with now, wait until you graduate. Try this.....

Manage your time and schedule carefully. Get enough sleep. Stay caught up. Get enough exercise. Take some time out to relax and some to play hard also. If doing these things doesn't help you manage your anxiety, and it is still affecting your performance, go to your doctor and tell him exactly that. Tell him how you feel and what your goals are. Don't go in with an agenda for what you want prescribed based on what you have heard. Then the two of you can work out what is the best treatment plan for you.

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Rodney

Valium slows you down; didn't care for it. I had back spasms once and the orthopedist prescribed it, I guess to make me relax in the hope that my spine would uncramp. Anyway, I was living alone and didn't notice a single bit of difference while I was by myself. Everything seemed normal.

Then I went over to some friends' house, and realized I was operating 'way slower than everybody else. Somebody's say something, and I'd start to answer in what I thought was a reasonable amount of time. But by that time, somebody else had started talking. This happened over and over; couldn't get a word in edgewise, and I'm usually pretty fast with a comeback. I felt stupid.

I guess what I'm saying is that it slowed me down but it didn't make me feel _better._
Of course, everybody's different. My Mom near got hooked on Valium back in the '70s, when HMO doctors would prescribe it for everything.

whocarz

Why not unwind with some beer? You live in Canada, legal age there is 18, correct?

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AfterBurn

obviously I don't plan to abuse it and spend all day taking valium...lol. I'd just like to have it handy for when I need to relax like afer an exam or in a stressful situation or something.

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AfterBurn

hmm, sounds to me like you've taken more than like 5mgs, that shouldnt happen unless you take more than what it says

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greytone

What I am trying to say is that what you describe IS abuse. For short term panic attacks, there are better choices in the class. Valium has too long a half-life and is more often used for siezures, vertigo, and muscle conditions these days. Remember, all of them have serious effects on memory. Versed is a very short term iv benzo used for conscious sedation during procedures. Not very many people remember their colonoscopies (although trust me, they are awake the whole time). Valium will affect your scholastic performance, but you may not know it.

I am not saying you should not be given an Rx for a benzo. There is no way for me to know that over the internet. What I am trying to do is make you rethink your misconceptions before you see your doctor.

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whocarz

Sorry to seem rude, but reading your responses, I'd say it's a waste of time to try and discourage you from taking it. You've already rationalized using it and I guess the only thing that will snap you out of it is when you hit rock bottom. Good luck with that.

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AfterBurn

Hmm I see, what about something like xanax then? Is there anything thats good for quick relaxation besides alc/weed?

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martinguerre

it won't improve exam performace, that's for damn sure.

i take it for panic attacks...any amount worth taking will slow you down considerably.

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Psycho Dad

I've had Valium only once. When I got my vasectomy I was told I would have to have a ride if I wanted anything other than a local for the procedure. Let's put it this way, if an operation is going to be performed on my nutsack, I'll make it a point to bring along a designated driver if that is what it is going to take.

They gave me the Valium intravenously. When they started it, the nurse told me to just look at the ceiling and let her know if I felt anything. Now this is where she messed up. She did not specify that I was to tell her if I felt anything happening or if I felt anything that I thought was not right. So a few moments later when she came to check my progress and ask if I felt anything, I told her that I wasn’t feeling anything. Not feeling anything was a pretty accurate description of it, but due to our communication barrier, she gave me another dose.

The next time she checked on my progress, I again told her I was not feeling anything wrong when she asked. She explained that by now I should be feeling the effects of the medication. Now that I understood what the hell she was talking about, I was able to mutter something that prevented them from trying a third dose.

At any rate, the next thing I can remember is standing behind my wife at the window to leave and then waking up on the floor where I fell face first from having a double dose of that shit.

I don’t think that it would be much of a study aid.

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clavus

Valium calmed me down in much the same manner as a pitcher of margaritas would.

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MSD

Xanax knocked me out. I'm not sure if Valium did anything at all. I'd really reccommend going with a drink or three.

edit: a drink or three instead of valium

martinguerre

xanax is valium, more or less. just so that you know. same chemical family, slightly different configuration.

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Cocain? Speed? Oral Sex?

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Vincentt

I must stand against the use of valium or any similar drug.
I have seen these destroy many lives first hand.
No one expects to use them and become addicted.
It does happen, just the same.
Do not fall for the “I cannot study” what pill can I take” or “I can’t wash the dishes I must need a pill” bullshit.

Go to a quiet place and study, if you really have a study problem. There are many non-drug solutions. If you MUST take a drug, it should be something for ADD…

If nothing said here can derail you from taking Valium or Xanax. Take the Valium; it is the lesser of the two evils. Xanax could very well destroy you.

Do not take a pill in attempt to fix something about your self, no matter what the outcome, your depending on a drug. That leads to... Big surprise, dependence.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

Baron Opal

No physician worth his salt is going to give you a prescription for diazepam (Valium) so you can "chill out". If you want a little assistance in relaxation physical exercise, be it a pick-up game of football or a quick fuck from the g/f, is a hell of a lot better than the diazepam. Or play a game at a local game store or community center. Even an occasional beer with friends is better.

It's better for you because the diazepam is forcing you to relax. You are not relaxing because of some pleasureable activity. Now, if your exam schedule is particularly demanding and you are having difficulty coping with the stress you need to think about changing your schedule, finding some new friends, or finding some other way to deal with your situation. Your stated reason does not warrant the medication.

If you are having serious stress management problems, then medication may be appropriate. But the smidgen that you have said about the topic does not lead me to believe that is the issue. Besides, I would start you out with propranolol first. Relaxing, yet does not encourage dependance.

Baron Opal, Pharm.D.

P.S. The mechanism of benzodiazepines and ethanol are markedly different. While true that both drugs involve the GABA receptor, they do so in very different manner. Ethanol also triggers a wide variety of other receptors in the body which is what makes ethanol consumption pleasant as opposed to merely relaxing.

greytone

Besides that, alcohol tastes good. At least that is the main reason one should have for drinking it.

While a pharmacist or physician will differentiate between different drugs in the same class for a variety of reasons (pharmacodynamics, route of excretion, allergies, specificity of action at receptor site, cost, and others), it is reasonable for the lay person to lump all of the drugs in a class together. Xanax is just a more rapidly acting valium, and that is exactly what makes it so much more addictive. It is usefull in panic disorders under the close supervision of a physician and pharmacist. But you don't describe anything that comes remotely close an indication for the drug. You really need to talk to someone. Maybe a counseler. Maybe a physician. Maybe a friend or family member. Drugs are not the first choice. (That includes alcohol and tabacco.)

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thingstodo

I think this pretty well covers it.

If you think you need valium, you are already on the road to self medication, another way of saying an addict. Repeat that to yourself many times....

Try figuring out what the REAL problem is you are trying to cover with medication. Then, discuss this with a qualified pro. They will help you decide if meds are the right path or if you need to deal with things another way or a combination of all the above. In any event, this is serious stuff and a path you can't retrace once you embark on the journey.

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