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Old 11-15-2004, 01:32 PM   #81 (permalink)
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You smoke it, right?
I hurt my lungs enough while I was smoking.
I dont need any more smoke in my lungs, except maybe for barbeque smoke.
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Old 11-15-2004, 01:34 PM   #82 (permalink)
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That's one thing people need to keep in mind: if used in moderation, it's fine. If used in excess, it has the potential to become a problem.

Most of us have been drunk. That's a good example of misusing alcohol. Having a few beers to get a nice relaxing buzz would be reasonable use.

Marijuana doesn't make you stupid. You make you stupid. Do you have the self control to use in moderation, or not? It's actually the least addictive when compared to alcohol and cigarettes. It COULD become psychologically addictive, but like someone else said, so can other things like video games.

If someone knows a person who "became stupid", chances are that person was doomed to begin with. Almost everyone I personally know who smokes it is smart, has a career, a family, and is on the right path in life. I can only recall exactly TWO people I've ever known that were bums who did nothing with their life, and I know for a fact that they were like that before they got into weed.

If you get drunk every day, will you not end up equally, if not more, stupid?

As for cost... hah. $10 for a dimebag vs. $10-15 on a 12 pack. Personally, it takes me 6 beers to even catch a nice buzz. That sucks. A dimebag.. shit, that'd last me 3 weeks. That and people have no problems whatsoever with going to McDonald's a few times a week and dropping $4 on a super-sized meal chock full of salt and grease - as if that's good for you.

The only extreme side effect it has going for it is smoke in the lungs, but that's what water bongs are for

People need to be a bit more open minded
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:15 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I'm having a hard enough time paying for school with the federal funding that I'd lose if I got busted for pot.
That's rediculous, your government sure has you guys buy the balls man. I know some here will think that this rule is ok, but I think it's over the top.

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Pot conviction = instant denial of application for concealed carry permit
Not applicable in my society, and I like it that way.
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:18 PM   #84 (permalink)
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See, to me, this question is slightly skewed. I don't smoke pot because I don't want to. That is the final reason.

My question to you:
If you do smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you do. Thank you
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:52 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Just to point out... I have an uncle who I went on vacation with, and smoked before every meal with (yea, he's like 56, and I'm like 19, so what ). The guy makes well over 6 figures a year. He's been smoking for years, although not heavily during the major parts of his career. He has retired twice, with more money rolling in then he could spend, and another company called him while he was retired, asking him to come work for them. He named a ridiculous price, thinking that he enjoyed retirement. They said "When do you want to start?" Because he is that good at what he does.

Since when did pot affect my ability to make money? Why am I doing better in Engineering school than most of my non-smoking friends?

Just wanted to point that out.

On that note, for the people who do not smoke pot, I respect your decision, and am glad that you live by your values, and not what someone else tells you. Just dont criticize me.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:19 PM   #86 (permalink)
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See, to me, this question is slightly skewed. I don't smoke pot because I don't want to. That is the final reason.

My question to you:
If you do smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you do. Thank you
It's no more skewed than "what is the reason you smoke pot?"

My reason for smoking: I want to.

If you would like me to elaborate, I shall once you decide to expand your answer.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:30 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I don't smoke it at all since I'm a pilot. Passengers and the FAA don't like it when their pilot smokes up, although I would have liked to try it. I do drink a bit and can honestly say that compared to my friends when they are high, the majority of drunks are worse.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:53 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Either that or you just get accustomed to living on less sleep, which isn't healthy either. I've read a decent amount on sleep deprivation, and on average it takes 1-2 weeks to recover from a single day's lost sleep from the journal articles I read.

I'll admit it doesn't cost money though, but when it's only 5-10 bucks for a smokable amount of weed, it's not a big deal for me anyways. :P I'm more turned off by the lung effects.
Well before folks start thinking that I intentionally stay awake for days at a time to get a high. I don't. Just saying if you want to get all loopy and crap stay awake. It's pretty fun if you don't have to do anything important later on. But I guess I'm blessed I don't need stuff to make me silly and to loosen up. God made me perpetually high.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:59 PM   #89 (permalink)
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That's rediculous, your government sure has you guys buy the balls man. I know some here will think that this rule is ok, but I think it's over the top.


Not applicable in my society, and I like it that way.
It's not really over the top considering how contentous that money is. Why is it fair to give somebody money that willfully broke a federal law over somebody else who doesn't? Whether you think it should be legalized or not isn't really pertinent it's a matter of are you going to play by the rules to get the money and if not...shove off. Seriously though if you can't forego something just for a few years to get a greatly reduced or free education you likely have a problem you need to address in the first place. Kind of like the idiot pro atheletes who can't put down the weed for half a year in order to get paid a few million bucks to play a game.
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:09 PM   #90 (permalink)
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Well before folks start thinking that I intentionally stay awake for days at a time to get a high. I don't. Just saying if you want to get all loopy and crap stay awake. It's pretty fun if you don't have to do anything important later on. But I guess I'm blessed I don't need stuff to make me silly and to loosen up. God made me perpetually high.
I believe that you actually only sleep 15 hours a week in order to maintain your "perpetual high", you filthy sleep-deprivation addict.
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:22 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I fully respect any individuals choice to not partake of any substance, especially given the current legal status of marijuana in the US. The average sentence of non-violent drug offenders is longer than the average sentence for murder! However, I think it is always a good idea to fully understand the real facts behind these things, and not just the appallingly deceptive DARE party line. I've done some research on drug legalization policy, and the misinformation given out in the name of education is scary. Lumping marijuana in with heroin or crack, and leaving out discussions of alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine is bizarre.

A good book to read if you're really interested in understanding the physical and psychological impact of various legal and illegal drugs is "Buzzed" - look for it on Amazon, or your favorite local bookseller.

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Old 11-15-2004, 09:24 PM   #92 (permalink)
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wait, i guess I should add to that. I'm an honor student at a top tier liberal arts college with a double majour in russian and philosophy. All of the most interesting people I know smoke.

doesn't mean it's good
just a thought

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Old 11-15-2004, 09:31 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:09 PM   #94 (permalink)
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I don't want to end up like my friend, who got addicted and pissed away a huge chunk of his FINANCIAL AIDS and SCHOLARSHIP money on pot and booze (the same kid I whined about last year in case any one remembered, he actually graduated from HS but now have to settle for a community college instead of a university). I hang out with him less now because of that. I'm not saying that pot gets a person addicted, but a person is proned to addiction. I'm not taking any chances so of all the times I've been offered pot, I politely declined. Although, this summer, I finally smoked it while I was in Canada with some friends. I didn't the effect, how I was so damn slow to react to anything, my balance was lost and I was sleepy at the time. All in all, some shitty experience with pot that I am glad to never try again.

About smoking pot as a way to have some "fun" and meeting new people. Personally, if I have to resort to pot have some fun and meet new people, then I need to reevaluate myself on what kind of a person I am to draw such drastic measures. I'd pitty myself.
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:48 PM   #95 (permalink)
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How do you meet people of similar interests? Why, you go out and share that interest with them. Calling smoking weed a "drastic measure" makes as much sense as saying that joining a sports league to meet people is a "drastic measure". Same thing goes for doing it for fun. Why the fuck do you care how people have fun or meet people? It's exactly the same as any other recreational activity in the respects of fun and people meeting.

Besides, pity is a word and concept that should be stricken from the English language; it's an awful word and an awful concept. Worse than hate.

While I'm at it, I'm going to throw some anti-pot "drugs are for sad people" logic at sex. I pity people who need sex to have a good time. They're co-dependent on others to feel complete about themselves, and can't function normally without the mind-altering rush of hormones and nervous system stimuli that come with sexual stimulation and orgasm. Seriously, how pitiful can you get when you can't even feel good without being sexually involved with someone?

I can do another activity if that's not enough to show you how ludicrous that kind of attitude is.

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Old 11-15-2004, 11:01 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Same reason as why I don't eat popcorn, or chocolate-glazed donuts or stir-fried pig's brains with a side order of cauliflower: I don't like it.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:44 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Tried it, didn't like it, decided it's not something I want to do.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:46 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Let's just say that I am a musician and pot is the best thing that has ever happened to me in terms of my appreciation for music and my ability to write.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:30 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Key word: Personally, which is why I only only about myself and not other people. Different strokes for different folks. I think I can have fun without getting high, that's all.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:46 AM   #100 (permalink)
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Reasons i dont and never will smoke pot.
1. I see it as mentaly as well as physicaly degrading.
2. I prefer to remain completly in control of myself.
3. To me its veiwed as a waste of time as well as money.
4. Alot of people who do smoke pot are looked down upon in general socail structure of america. (I couldnt stand that.)
5.All in all i think smoking in general is pretty lame.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:46 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I dont smoke pot because I've never really had the need or want. As far as I can see it, it's an expensive way of killing time when you either cant sleep or find something better to do.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:58 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:25 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:42 AM   #104 (permalink)
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1) It's illegal
2) It's been determined to be more highly detrimental to your health than tobacco
3) I don't find people who are stoned to generally be exhibiting the type of behavior that I would like emulate.

I will grant you this....pot smells good when it's burning. It's certainly better than cigars or cigarettes.
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:56 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I wonder why it is that the people that are espousing the evils of marijuana, seem to have atrocious spelling and grammatical skills, yet they keep claiming that pot makes you stupid.....

Just curious......
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:14 AM   #106 (permalink)
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If you would like me to elaborate, I shall once you decide to expand your answer.
Fair enough: the thought of smoking pot just doesn't interest me. I do plenty of exciting things with my life (rock climbing, working on cars, IT work, etc.) that I see no need to smoke pot. I honestly can't imagine myself wanting to smoke pot, for any reason.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:39 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Pragma, I respect your position. I also do plenty of exciting things. I'm actually leaving for Rincon, Puerto Rico in two weeks to do a solid week of diving and hiking. I still, however, will imbibe a little at the end of the day. (place emphasis on "a little")
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:38 AM   #108 (permalink)
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I never have tried it and never plan to. I grew up with a bunch of people that did smoke it, but it never held any interest to me, plus I don't like the smell. I agree with what others have said here: everything is about moderation and excess.
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:45 AM   #109 (permalink)
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See, to me, this question is slightly skewed. I don't smoke pot because I don't want to. That is the final reason.

My question to you:
If you do smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you do. Thank you
Same reason why one would drink an alcoholic beverage.

Seems kinda silly asking "If you do drink alcohol, please provide the number one reason you do," right?

No difference.
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Old 11-16-2004, 09:07 AM   #110 (permalink)
 
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it is also strange how many of the arguments against pot sound like they come from "reefer madness"--a testimony to the formation of reagan youth, i suppose (just say no--hysteria is the anti-drug)......

no matter, in the larger scheme of things. i am probably equally so when it comes to cocaine.
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Old 11-16-2004, 10:44 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Fair enough: the thought of smoking pot just doesn't interest me. I do plenty of exciting things with my life (rock climbing, working on cars, IT work, etc.) that I see no need to smoke pot. I honestly can't imagine myself wanting to smoke pot, for any reason.
The thought of smoking post DID interest me, and once I tried it and enjoyed it, I decided to continue it (on an infrequent basis).
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Old 11-16-2004, 10:45 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Key word: Personally, which is why I only only about myself and not other people. Different strokes for different folks. I think I can have fun without getting high, that's all.
Yeah, I just get a little rankled when you get THOSE PEOPLE who feel that, to justify their lack of drug use, they have to attack drug users. AND THEY DON'T USE ARGUMENTS THAT MAKE ANY SENSE. What you said resembled that a little too much, and you got to see my argumentative side.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:28 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I wonder why it is that the people that are espousing the evils of marijuana, seem to have atrocious spelling and grammatical skills, yet they keep claiming that pot makes you stupid.....

Just curious......
Yes, makes you wonder doesn't it?
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:29 PM   #114 (permalink)
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2) It's been determined to be more highly detrimental to your health than tobacco
Where'd you read/hear/see this? I for one have never heard of one single person ever dying of lung cancer caused by marijuana.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:53 PM   #115 (permalink)
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pot is like beer. Ever ones in a while its cool, do it to much it can fuck your shit up.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:58 PM   #116 (permalink)
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What it boils down to for me, is that the opportunity just never happened to arise when I was younger and likely to give it a try. Nowadays the idea just doesn't appeal to me. I can't say that I have anything against it, or the people that do it. There just seems to be no good reason for me to start now.
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:28 PM   #117 (permalink)
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I actually tried it in my youth and I didn't see what the appeal was. I don't smoke regular cigarettes either. Both my brothers smoke cigarettes. They have since high school.
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:40 PM   #118 (permalink)
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I do smoke marijuana because I'm interested in alternate states of conciousness. I find that when I'm under the influence of marijuana I can still concentrate and do most of not all of the things I could do if I weren't - it just opens me up to different and more complex thoughts.

There's a depth within myself that I could reach through the use of mood altering substances but I'm not shooting up everything in my bathroom cabinet to open up my 3rd eye - that's what meditation is for.

After having tried several mood altering substances (most of which I'll never do again) I can say that no 2 people react to any drug in the same manner and what you expect to happen from taking any mood altering substances has the most baring on how you will react to it.

There have been a million different studies that could prove whatever you'd like them to prove about drugs - until you've dropped all your preconceptions and actually tried them then you can't judge the drugs or anyone that does them.
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:54 PM   #119 (permalink)
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