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Old 09-11-2004, 05:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There is only so much money going around. Why it got to be like that? What can you do to make more money go around so people can get a peice of living decent?

And do you understand that you (yes, you Americans) have to create jobs for America? If you dont create jobs for an ever growing population in this country, there will be more poverty and more crime. Or is that what you truely want?

So once you get the right money go ahead and open up what will employ many and be able to pay all employed well. Money has gotten so scares people are becoming more slave-like. The lesser the income the more slave-like you actually are being in the particular line of work. The lack of money being out there for you to get, the more life for you here is as an imprisonment. And to top that off, it's a prison with a more worse form of prison awaiting you amongst. Yeah, hell for you here on earth can get worse.

Internships and community service there ought to be laws against! Mothafuckaz know people need a certain amount of income. People should be able to get straight to making good money for a decent living no matter the job (be it, part time or full time). Who's stopping that from being? Isn't the government supposed to represent the people? If it is, then many of the people are some stupid mothafuckaz for having the U.S. to be how it is now. It's not helping us reach equality money wise. We the people should make a new law that the gov has to give us manditory money for a decent living as a bottomline top priority. That money should come to each U.S. adult citizen yearly and be free. It's the humane thing to do in this stage of civilization. And if you're pro-life and against this you're a hypcrite who wants to see people live, but live fucked up. Aren't we as humans smart enough to make things be where all can live decent?
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Old 09-11-2004, 05:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He who controls money controls the direction of things. I say we get people together and make a newer money that will be accepted by each of us citizens of this country as a valued thing for exchange. It will be a step in side stepping the current government by rising right beside it. We can be wise how we rise into victory. The new money may look nothing like the current U.S. money, but it'll be equally distributed to adult citizens in the U.S. yearly for free. The motto on the new money would be: "IN EQUALITY WE TRUST"

The U.S. Money would be replaced with the new money bit by bit in an exchange by many looking to cross over. That U.S. money pumping in would be used for the making of more of the new money of the new nation till the U.S.A becomes completely changed over to the new nation. So the U.S. would be used as a stepping stone. And that U.S. money also would go to the building of a new White House (which wouldn't be called the White House. Nope, it would be called the Equal Mansion. It'd be seperate from the White House and in a different area called the new capitol). And we'd have a seperate presidential election for the new nation. We'll have our own flag which will be different from the flag of the U.S. Matter of fact, I'm thinking it would resemble the U.S. flag, but be black, brown, and white in its colors.

The U.S.E. (United States of Equality) or the O.N.E. (One Nation of Equality) will arise amongst the U.S.A and make the U.S.A. and many of its flawed old ways be done away with. Instead of Americans you'll then come to be known as Equalitians. It'll be the Equalitian way, the Equalitian dream, etc. A dream of equality money wise!

Working together we can build a new nation among. Working togther we can change the constitution for the people of the new nation to live by. Certain laws would then definitly become changed swiftly by us of the new nation.

Seriously, are you all ready to build a new nation amongst the very U.S.?

We'll be the generation that goes down in history as ones that really changed things for the better. It starts with each of us.
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Old 09-11-2004, 05:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why should the government provide for me when I am perfectly capable of providing for myself? I do not want a handout. In America, hard work is what gets you what you need.

Equality, I don't make as much as CEO somewhere, but I also don't have their education or experience, nor do I take all the risks that they do. They earn their salary, I earn mine, if I want more money, or more benefits, I can work harder, I can get more education, I can change jobs, I do not expect, nor do I want the government to give me anything.
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Old 09-11-2004, 05:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Screw Equalitian, VOTE FINGERLICIAN!

You've got to be kidding... nobody could POSSIBLY take the name "Equalitians" seriously. Who wants to break out laughing at the absurdity of their own country's name every time it's spoken?
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Old 09-11-2004, 06:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sounds like communisim to me.
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Old 09-11-2004, 08:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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MONEY...Get a good job with good pay and your ok
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Old 09-12-2004, 06:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I really feel the need to go on a serious rant about the original post in this thread. A rant about staying in school to get an education, about avoiding the making of babies out of wedlock (or at a minimum where the father is not in residence), about avoiding deviant, subversive, or criminal behavior, about getting an entry level job and working at it to be the best you can be, about working at continuing your education so that combined with the work experience that you have accumulated by working so hard in your entry level job that you are recognized and promoted into a better job so you make a better income. Hmmmmm...I'm ranting.

Instead I'll bite my tongue and chalk this up to the price you pay for freedom.

*shaking my head in dismay and thinking this person will likely vote in the upcoming election*
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Old 09-12-2004, 08:08 AM   #8 (permalink)
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MONEY...Get a good job with good pay and your ok
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Old 09-12-2004, 09:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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There is only so much money going around. Why it got to be like that? What can you do to make more money go around so people can get a peice of living decent?
I'm just curious, but what language do you use most of the time? I'm hoping it's not English.
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Old 09-12-2004, 09:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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That sounds a good deal like communism to me as well.

While a lot of the "old-timers" grumble about us young kids these days I see as silly, there is one thing I can agree with: we all expect to step into the world and have the world handed to us. Years ago, you'd start at the bottom with relativly low pay in your field and few extras (no vacation time, etc..) and work your way up over the years. Hard work and commitment got you what you wanted. Now all of us (myself included) come out of our respective layers of education and expect to start at an above average salary for our field, with a month's paid vacation and loads of benefits.

It's just not going to happen.

As for the posters comments about putting more money out there, that will solve absolutely nothing. The more money in circulation, the more expensive things become because the value of the dollar, or whatever currecny you've come up with will drop with more out there.
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Old 09-12-2004, 09:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I would actually place this Idea in the realm of socialism. But, I have to agree with the majority here.....hard work...(and maybe a bit of tax reform) and you should be just fine.
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Old 09-12-2004, 11:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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do you not realize that scarcity is why ANYTHING is worth anything? If you just print more money the inflation rate would rise and money would be worth less, and it would take MORE money to maintain your standard of living. Currency itself is just an abstraction to replace the barter system. it used to be given an actual value in gold, but when the gold standard was repealed the only reason money retained its value was because everyone agreed it still had value. To introduce a new currency that is not endorsed by everyone you plan on doing business with reminds me of third grade where the teacher xeroxed their own "meyers bucks" for their class, and invariably a few students would try to go buy ice cream with them. it just doesn't work.

I'd say more but i've gotta run
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Old 09-12-2004, 12:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If you use your brain, and work hard, its nearly impossible to fail in capitalism. "mothafuckaz" dont need to reproduce if they cant provide for their kids. PERIOD. from the sounds of it, you MUST be against most immigration, because migration of unskilled workers does nothing but increase the lower class. this society operates very VERY far from lean and mean. I challenge you to show me a couple who works hard and smart and hasnt made any stupid mistakes (kids, credit cards) that isnt able to feed and clothe themselves. In an efficient society, there ARE people who dont deserve to eat, plain and simple.
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So what you're saying is, you want more money made so anyone and everyone to make the same amount of money? You think that will give everyone a living?

Friend, you may want to look into taking an economics class sometime.

To begin, the government has nothing to do with controlling our money supply. The Fed is who is responsible for our money supply. The government does not control the Fed; the Fed does not control the government. The Fed is basicly our nations 'main' bank.

The Fed controls the money supply primarily via buying and selling securities. Also, the Fed controls employment and inflation as well by raising and lowering short-term interest rates. Basicly, if the short-term interest rates are set 'correctly,' there will be more borrowing, making more spending, raising demand, creating more jobs, and therefore keeping our long-term interest rates low. If the Fed raises the short-term interest rates too high, inflation will grow. If not enough, unemployment will then be the problem. The key is keeping the correct balance between the two.

Another interesting fact is, the unemployment percentages that you see reported, those are the only ones actually reported by unemployment offices. If someone is drawing unemployment, but still working for a 'cash only' income, they will be considered unemployed, but actually are in fact employed. The same goes the other way around. Some people will quit their jobs, but are perhaps too ashamed to show their face at the unemployment office, and are therefore still considered employed. Do you see why these figures we're told aren't exactly correct? These are the figures the Fed has to work with to help our economy grow at a stable rate.


I won't continue on with this, because I'll be typing for quite some time. You need to take the time and learn about our economy, the Fed, how unemployment is fought, and how our money supply is kept stable. That may give you a better understanding of why not everyone will have a decent living -- some people just won't work for it.

Our country awards people for working hard, and I believe that is how it should be. There are also several ways to argue it also awards people for being lazy, but that's a whole different political subject.

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