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Old 01-19-2004, 12:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am a person who enjoys it. I smoke whenever I am with people that want, and sometimes will get people to smoke with me when I want. Some people say that I am now addicted(cause near the end of school, me and my friend smoked like 2-3 times a day for a week, but school was over so we just wanted to chil)although haven't touched it in like 3-4 weeks now, and have no "want" for it, but if someone came to me and said want to smoke, I have no reason to say no, but my life wouldn't change id I never smoked again.

I typicaly won't do it when I have test coming up soon, or anything that I will need my mind working hard for. I do it when I just finished my test(they all come in bunches, so when they are done, I won't have any for like 3 weeks) or on vacation... that type of thing, I don't go to class high, I am a "responsible smoker". Don't get me wrong i don't think it's right, I mean I know it's not good for me, but what is these days, you eat something, it causes cancer, you smoke cigarettes, it's just a step in the grave, drinking alchool causes liver problems and not to mention DUI.

My question to all of you is why does everyone think it's so wrong? Like people say they never did it, but automaticly are experts. They will be telling me all the bad things about it, but never mentioning the good about it. It helps calm a person down, and helps clear you're mind(i know cause it makes you loses your short term memory, but to be honest if you can't remember it, it wasn't important enough to remember) and you can just relax, you're mind would be clear of thoughts, so no worries. People will take prescription drugs, that can do the same or more damage but because a doctor gives it to you, it's fine? I know the weed is illegal, is that why it gets such a bad wrap? I always laugh at people that look down on me when I go smoke a j with some friends, boom they think I am trying to act cool or some shit or I am trying to be a badass but my friends walk into the room drunk off there ass and people don't care. Why does society look down on people that smoke weed, is it because it's illegal? I mean you can't honestly tell me that when you're at a club drinking to no end and smoking to no end, that is better then smoking a dime or 1.5 grams? I can never seem to understand how people are so critical of it.

What I am saying is I know doing none of them is better, if you do anything, doing it in moderation is better, but still most things we do are bad for us, so why do we have to look down on people that smoke weed so much, it just doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong, I don't care what people think, but I am more looking for why people think this way, and if there are people that actually think that way here, it would great to see why they think that way.
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Old 01-19-2004, 01:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm still trying to figure out why it's looked down upon so much, I'll let you know if I ever find out.

Until then, keep having fun, and always pass to the left.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I find weed safer than alcohol. Instead of jumping into a car when you're drunk, you just eat then fall asleep when you're high. What's the problem?
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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always......pass to the left and don't worry what other people say.

do what makes you happy.......it's the people that say this and that are all wrong or bad for you,...they're the ones with the problems.

maybe they should smoke a doobbie
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm still trying to figure out why it's looked down upon so much, I'll let you know if I ever find out.

Until then, keep having fun, and always pass to the left.
its gotten a lot less locked down over here. although they can still bust you for it and some jobs drug test you, it is a lot easier to get a hold of and smoke up and if you get caught you have to have a bit to get fucked up. i just wish i lived in south australia, you can have up to 6 plants legally for personaly use.


all that being said, here is my motto. i do/say/dress the way that i feel like and if other people dont like it i dont really care. i dont try to impress people, i try to impress me (so to say).
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I smoked more weed than any three people here and I smoked it for longer than most of you have been alive.
I don't do it anymore. Don't drink either.
If you ask me for my personal opinion I will say you will have a better life if you don't smoke weed. That's it - just one person's opinion.

I could also tell you about the lives I have seen ruined by it (and alcohol) - but I won't go into that right now.



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Old 01-19-2004, 09:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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...I am a "responsible smoker"...
Funny...but there's no such thing.

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My question to all of you is why does everyone think it's so wrong? Like people say they never did it, but automaticly are experts. They will be telling me all the bad things about it, but never mentioning the good about it. It helps calm a person down, and helps clear you're mind(i know cause it makes you loses your short term memory, but to be honest if you can't remember it, it wasn't important enough to remember) and you can just relax, you're mind would be clear of thoughts, so no worries. People will take prescription drugs, that can do the same or more damage but because a doctor gives it to you, it's fine? I know the weed is illegal, is that why it gets such a bad wrap? I always laugh at people that look down on me when I go smoke a j with some friends, boom they think I am trying to act cool or some shit or I am trying to be a badass but my friends walk into the room drunk off there ass and people don't care. Why does society look down on people that smoke weed, is it because it's illegal? I mean you can't honestly tell me that when you're at a club drinking to no end and smoking to no end, that is better then smoking a dime or 1.5 grams? I can never seem to understand how people are so critical of it.

What I am saying is I know doing none of them is better, if you do anything, doing it in moderation is better, but still most things we do are bad for us, so why do we have to look down on people that smoke weed so much, it just doesn't make sense.
Yeah. I get your whole point on how is weed frowned upon but not alcohol and cigarettes? Good point too, let me add.

The people who use these drugs heavily are dumbasses that have let society make a profit off them. So there's still hope for your marijuana cause my friend. Ex. Canada. As you see, America tried prohibition way back. Back when they gave a shit about their image. But they soon learned that alcohol was a monster they could not stop. *So one day ! bing !, someone says: "Let's legalize alcohol and make billions off the taxes!" And, fraternities were born...

*But that wasn't until after heavy protesting.

My personal opinion is to stay away from it all. Basically, NO cigarettes and NO weed. I'm not saying alcohol is fine either but seeing how it's apart of any night life...

Just for the record, I don't drink.
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I haven't smoked weed at all and I dont plan on it. I dont see a point in getting high but that is my opinion.
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
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...I am a "responsible smoker"...
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Funny...but there's no such thing.

Actually the funny thing here is that you are generalizing.

I know of many successful "potheads" who have families, big house, nice car....the whole "American Dream" going on for them. And they handle their responsibilites ..... legally.

I have friends who are in school now that are making straight A's (or close to it) at reputable Universities and they smoke all the time.

It all is on the person...when I smoked pot daily I stopped going to school but I did everything else. I got a "respectable" job, bought a car, a house and still maintained to be included in that cool "responsible" group.

Sure I wish I didn't stop going to school now, but who is to say that if I wasn't smoking pot that I wouldn't have made the same desicion?

Me personally...pot is not for me anymore...not because it was making me irresponsible but because I'm a bit cuckoo (ok way more than a bit).

All of the "pot smokers are losers who can't be responsible" remarks are simply garbage.

It effects everyone in a different way. Some people can handle it...some can't.

And you would be surprised to find out that a few of the people you hold in the highest regards probably are or were "responsible smokers".

And you know what....maybe some of these pot smokers are even more responsible than non pot smokers because even though they smoke the evil plant which dumbs them down some (pssht) they still manage to keep up with the joneses if not surpass them.

edit: I should add that I do know a lot of slackers that are pot smokers too.

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Old 01-19-2004, 11:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Funny...but there's no such thing.


Yeah. I get your whole point on how is weed frowned upon but not alcohol and cigarettes? Good point too, let me add.

The people who use these drugs heavily are dumbasses that have let society make a profit off them.
Sorry Oldtimer, I respect your opinion but I do have to disagree with you. I am one of the responsible ones. I don't drink very much because I choose to smoke pot. That is my vice of choice. I also have a great job, a fun and exciting life, don't lie, cheat or steal, and smoke in the privacy of my own environment. But generalizations like yours shows a lack of understanding of marijuana and it's usage.

Why are people so opposed to it? People are afraid of things they don't understand. People make assumptions about marijuana and follow the collective opinions about it because they can't formulate opinions of their own. Yes, there are people out there that sit on a couch all day, smoke pot, play video games, and eat everything out of the refridgerator. However, this is a stereotype. Are all Chinese people poor drivers? Are all Jewish people stingy with their money? No. These stereotypes are in place because people don't choose to formulate their own opinions about things they don't quite understand. This is not the only reason that people think negatively about it, but I believe it is a good starting point.
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Weed isn't for everyone. It does different things to different people. I used to smoke until I realized what it was doing to me. My life is a lot happier without it, but that is just me. I just fear that other people don't realize what it does to them sometimes.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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..."pot smokers are losers who can't be responsible"...
Never said that. But I know a few.

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And you would be surprised to find out that a few of the people you hold in the highest regards probably are or were "responsible smokers".
Wouldn't doubt it. But let's be realistic here. That's going to be 2 out of 10, tops.

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Sorry Oldtimer, I respect your opinion but I do have to disagree with you. I am one of the responsible ones. I don't drink very much because I choose to smoke pot. That is my vice of choice. I also have a great job, a fun and exciting life, don't lie, cheat or steal, and smoke in the privacy of my own environment. But generalizations like yours shows a lack of understanding of marijuana and it's usage.

Why are people so opposed to it? People are afraid of things they don't understand. People make assumptions about marijuana and follow the collective opinions about it because they can't formulate opinions of their own. Yes, there are people out there that sit on a couch all day, smoke pot, play video games, and eat everything out of the refridgerator. However, this is a stereotype. Are all Chinese people poor drivers? Are all Jewish people stingy with their money? No. These stereotypes are in place because people don't choose to formulate their own opinions about things they don't quite understand. This is not the only reason that people think negatively about it, but I believe it is a good starting point.
Maybe my statement got drawn out a bit too much. I'm talking majority wise. I know the success stories. Please... believe me... I do. But I also know that no matter how much someone says marijuana is not addictive, it is. Maybe not the same way nicotine does it for cigarette smokers but, mentally, I have seen people who would just not quit. If even their mothers requested it on their death beds. Though, for those few people who can quit, I respect for their willpower. The ability to say no and mean it. Not taking a puff or a swig here and there. I'm sorry if you guys took that comment a bit too personally but I wasn't trying to invoke a stereotype. I just know how people operate and lie through their teeth. Willpower is a trait that's becoming rarer everyday.

And water_boy, I'm happy that you are one of those few. Same goes for you too, Kata.
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The simple reason that it's illegal an looked down upon is the smear campaign launched decades ago by companies led by a paper manufacturer (3M, I think) who realized that hemp rope, hemp paper, and hemp oil would make synthetic rope, wood pulp paper, and other natural oils inefficient and dominate the market. Suddenly, a car accident after which marijuana was found in the car would be on the front page for days, lobbyists bombarded congressmen with anti-cannabis propaganda. All cannabis, even those strains that contained a negligible amount of THC (it would take a bushel to equal one medium-strength joint) were outlawed. The fear of "Reefer Madness" (the title of a propaganda film produced with the influence of the US government) struck America, and suddenly parents worried that their kids could succumb to the temptation of the evil plant.
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
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To me the risk seem to great, but if you want to do it that is fine. It is your life to run the way you see fit. My Friends that smoke don't try and talk me into it and I don't try to talk them out of it. I wish everything else worked as well.
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have a friend who is a stoner, lawyer, photographer, husband for 20+ years to the same woman, has 2 daughters educated and happily married. He says he concentrates better stoned, and that he enjoys his photography much more (he has his own darkroom, supplies, etc..). He displays his work at a big mall where I live and people pay money for his stuff.

I also know someone else who has smoked for a long time and is basically a fuck up.

What this tells me is that it aint the weed, its the person.

Just take care of business, enjoy weed, hit Amsterdam if you get the chance, and send me any leftover pot you might have.
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Old 01-20-2004, 12:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Exactly PowerClown. I can't understand why people don't see that. Anything can fuck someone up in life if it's abuse. I mean sure weed isn't healthy, but like I said, what is these days? People say you are losing brain cells when you smoke weed, I wonder how many brain cells are lost when you play soccer and do a header(maybe scientist can compare?). Anyways thanks for all your opinions guys, I do appriciate seeing how everyone sees this, keeps my eyes open towards others opinions, but knowing they will never change it.
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Old 01-20-2004, 12:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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To me the risk seem to great, but if you want to do it that is fine. It is your life to run the way you see fit. My Friends that smoke don't try and talk me into it and I don't try to talk them out of it. I wish everything else worked as well.
I live in Montreal, the risk, if you are talking about the law enforcement part, they don't care that much up here, you get busted with 5-6 grams, they will just take it and let you go. If you are talking about the fact that it kills brain cells and that shit, well what doesn't. I guess you can say I am a strong beleiver in the "what doesn't" philosphy. I think that anything in large amounts can harm you, and then again, anything can harm you, no need for an ammount, just got to hope you make the right choices.
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Just out of curiosity, can anyone give me some hard evidence that smoking does kill brain cells?
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Old 01-20-2004, 05:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I want them to re-criminalize alcohol and legalize pot. The older I get the less I've been able to handle getting drunk, and I've never liked it as much as pot. Plus alcohol is a lot more dangerous in my epxerience than pot (aggression). I don't smoke now only because it's illegal and I don't want to fuck up my family with having to bail me out, risk having fines, jail time, etc. I haven't smoked a single toke in six and a half years, and I dunno if I will again. I just know I won't buy or use it if there's any chance I'd be caught. A drug is just not worth getting busted to me.If they legalize it, well...I'll be buying a pack of Marlboro joints.
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Wouldn't doubt it. But let's be realistic here. That's going to be 2 out of 10, tops.
Do you know this or is it something you pulled out of your hat?
I'd say it's more like 8 out of 10...I like my hat better.


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But I also know that no matter how much someone says marijuana is not addictive, it is. Maybe not the same way nicotine does it for cigarette smokers but, mentally, I have seen people who would just not quit. If even their mothers requested it on their death beds. Though, for those few people who can quit, I respect for their willpower. The ability to say no and mean it. Not taking a puff or a swig here and there. I'm sorry if you guys took that comment a bit too personally but I wasn't trying to invoke a stereotype. I just know how people operate and lie through their teeth. Willpower is a trait that's becoming rarer everyday.

But I also know that no matter how much someone says marijuana is addictive, it is not. I don't buy your argument that it's addictive, not at all. Some people may like it alot and might get pissed off if they run out, but no one I know can't do without.

Maybe the people you saw that "would just not quit" didn't want to quit. What's wrong with a dying person wanting to smoke a bit of pot? My 87 year old Grandmother wanted a couple of sips of brandy during her last days. Should we have said no you shouldn't drink this, it's not good for you?
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