10-01-2003, 01:37 PM | #41 (permalink) |
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I wonder how outraged people would be if she came to class and mixed a rum and coke for show and tell.
I'm not condoning making a bong at all, I think it's terrible that she learned how to make one.
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10-01-2003, 01:52 PM | #42 (permalink) |
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Regardless if the parents actually taught the kid to do it the are mostly responsible. Parents especially are the most influncial people in a childs life. Kids are very perceptive and pick up on attitudes expressed by the parent. They may not smoke in front of a kid but thier attitude shows what they think. Parents teach morals and values which guide behavoir especially at a young age. Even if a brother or friend showed the kid it is still the parents fault for not teaching the child appropriate behavoir.
The parents need to be dealt with. I spend my working days dealing with the problems caused by substance abuse. Maybe their are some that use for"recreation" but wait untill they get caught with some dope during a traffic stop and watch thier life spiral downward. Court fees, lawyers, maybe jail and supervision. Also the stigma of being labled a dope smoker. That guy with the successful job may find himself in the unemployment line because his employer has a zero tolerence policy. If he is lucky maybe he only has to go to 30 days rehab. Then everbody has their eagle eye on you. Doing any kind of illegal substance has potential consequences. So does drinking and driving. If you are willing to risk all the consequenses for doing drugs or driving drunk ask yourself, Is this rational behavoir? I could end up in jail, lose my job, pay thousands of dollars to the court, but what the hell I'll do it any way. I have 13 years of experience dealing with substance abuse and I can tell you if its Illegal it will very likley catch up to you one day. Are you willing to risk it?
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10-01-2003, 02:07 PM | #43 (permalink) | |
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10-01-2003, 02:12 PM | #44 (permalink) | |
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It's amazing what things are coming to now-a-days. I didn't really even learn about or use drugs until I was in HS... I never would've thought of making a bong in class when I was 5... all those opportunities in ART class and I wasted 'em... dammit.
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I will say I went overboard Sad_Machine on the not being able to contribute to society...It must just be that the over acheivers I tend to hang out with, the parents whos kids respect and try to idolize them don't smoke weed. I can see your point but since I haven't smoked weed on a regular basis for years, I wouldn't know. |
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My pothead friends are screwed up, by the way. And do you know why I generalize? Have you ever taken a statistics class? A large sample (generally agreed upon to be greater than 20) is often indicative of characteristics within the population from which it's taken. That's simply biology and mathematics. Out of 20 pot-smokers I know, six have gone to college and/or have steady jobs. Not a very good ration. Save your breath telling me "everyone is not that same", and "it's not fair to generalize." The former is obvious, and the latter I've explained in more than suitable detail. Quote:
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For possession of pot, you can go to jail for 10 years (in most states; there is no federal law after all). For online copyright infringements, one can go to jail for 3 years. Not to champion the government, but even life politicians, with their completely jaded and skewed views of life, see a difference. Quote:
I don't care. I never said pot-heads should die, or that they were a plague to society. Do all the drugs you want, just don't hand me a line of bullshit to justify your addiction and illegal activities. Don't try to tell me that it makes you philosophical, that life becomes more beautiful, or that existence becomes clearer; you're fucking high. If it were about the altered state of consciousness and its effects upon your inquisitive psyche, there are plenty of alternatives, some that are even healthy for you. Why not give those a whirl? Quote:
My favorite band crusades freedom of choice -- and thus drug use. Do I agree? Yes, and no. I think personal choice is a great ideal, and that very few things should limit it. Do I think drug use should be widespread, or legalized? No. Argue all you want, but it is dangerous. That high kid, driving his car while trying to stuff a Twinkie into his mouth, is dangerous. Don't even dare call him an anomaly, 'cause I'll call you a willfully ignorant fuck. Quote:
I thought that all birds could fly until I studied the ostrich in school. For most authority figures, this was acceptable. Yeah, my perception before that was wrong, but it was pretty close. Conversely, trying saying all birds can't fly because you know the ostrich can't seems rather uninformed. Congratulations on going places. As I've mentioned, I know many who have not. It takes a special will, intellect, and emotional makeup. Given that, maybe you want to consider yourself the exception to the rule, rather than the opposite.
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10-01-2003, 06:01 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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With all that's on television these days, this incident can be partially attributed to that. However, when you really get down to it, the entire matter comes back to the parents. It's them who usually corrupts their children, and they got nobody to blame but themselves.
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10-01-2003, 07:55 PM | #51 (permalink) |
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Pretty sad what some kids can learn in a household.
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10-02-2003, 09:58 PM | #52 (permalink) |
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I have to wonder, though, if she really understood what she was making and what it was used for. The report never says that the girl said "hey, everyone, I'm going to make a bong. It is used for smoking pot."
It's easy for people who have been around pot to recognize a bong, but you have to remeber that she is only five. She might of thought it was just something pretty. And it's not like she showed her classmates how to pack the bowl or anything.
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I said: I think they are slaves to the drug and only interested in creating a flase sence of reality of the world once they get home from work. I do believe most pot smoking lifers don't have much to contribute to society. Quote:
Okay, so you know old ones and young ones, not one of which is a slave to the drug. WAKE UP, you can find a few in that crowd. I don’t have much to say to that except the pot’s gone to your head, man. I do believe that you (referring to your “we” comment) have things to offer to society…just look, you have Jimmy Hendrix on your side. That’s ”pritty” impressive... All jokes aside, I’ll say it to you again. If you are a pot smoker and you think it’s perfectly fine to raise your children in a pot-smoking environment, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to society. This last paragraph pretty much sums up what I was trying to convey previously...nothing more, nothing less. Last edited by Force 10; 10-03-2003 at 09:18 PM.. |
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