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Old 07-13-2003, 06:21 PM   #41 (permalink)
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As I've seen in here, the only way that you can have a logical debate is by calling your opponents idiots, hence my exiting the thread. Like I said, I'm not in the mood for a pissing contest, if you want to debate, that's fine. But, as long as you want to make it nothing more than name calling, I'm not going to bother.

And with that, I'm out.
Go look at our old drug debatesl. You don't have shit and you know it. You've never had it.

I've only labelled my opponents ONCE and I quickly edited it. Apologies given.

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WAIT A SECOND!! Spec hold up.. Here I have seen reasons why Drugs are bad, but not ONCE do I see why they are GOOD. All you people yelling at Spectre and Sixate, Please... PLEASE tell me why you have NOT told us why its GOOD to use drugs. You bring up the idea of logic, yet you yell before you speak. If they cannot bring up a good reason (and never will (this was a bit harsh)) then why haven't you countered it with why its good? I am challenging you.. yes I said CHALLENGE. Show me why drugs are good. CONVINCE ME.. or else stop ranting and being rude to others who are debating.
They get you high for one. This elevates mood. Sometimes it simple, hedonistic pleasure. Other times it's for meditation or other non-hedonistic intentions. Go look on Erowid and look at their positive drug effects.

Drugs are neither bad nor good. They are objects that are put into play by others. Those who use drugs must exercise responsibility to avoid as many negative consequences as possible. Drugs are not harmless.

Those villifying drugs are not debating, dude, one just ran away without even addressing my point.

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That drugs are harmful? I need not list the numerous studies, link vast library of stories, or state the far to often repeated warnings. You yourself have already proven my previous statement and would have shrugged them off as false, ironically enough like the people who opposed the thought that ciggerettes were harmful years before.
Oh, haha, studies? Like that one NIDA page with references you posted before the crash that you didn't understand a freaking word of that I completely annihilated by addressing them one by one?

I agree that drugs are not harmless. But just because one person out of the hundreds of thousands of drug users does something really bizarre doesn't mean it's in anyway typical. And just because some prostitute mom left drugs out and her kid got to them doesn't mean it was all drugs fault and that druggies are doomed to a lifetime of misery because it happened before.
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:33 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Ok.. this has gotten WAY off topic, and very nasty.

butthead, you've ignore the private warning sent to you by another moderator. So here it is... Calm it down and stop trying to get into a pissing match with a moderator who wants to step back from the situation. Spectre is too professional to use his position as a moderator and has chosen to step out of the thread not because you have run him off but because he doesn't want to be part of a pissing match.

Now, back to the topic...

Do you think this guy could marry Lorena Bobbit? She'd have nothing to chop off... might make for a good marriage, don't you think?
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:03 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I dunno.. you were sure to say that people didn't do a good job at saying drugs are bad... I await your response
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:11 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Oh, haha, studies? Like that one NIDA page with references you posted before the crash that you didn't understand a freaking word of that I completely annihilated by addressing them one by one?

I agree that drugs are not harmless. But just because one person out of the hundreds of thousands of drug users does something really bizarre doesn't mean it's in anyway typical. And just because some prostitute mom left drugs out and her kid got to them doesn't mean it was all drugs fault and that druggies are doomed to a lifetime of misery because it happened before.
Scientific research is laughable? Well, this is predictable considering the source, I guess one would be able to annihilate years of work with a link to hightimes and a "nu uh."

Also, I'm glad you agree with me on the dangers of destroying yourself with drugs, this should bring our discussion to a merry end and I can continue to read my book.
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Old 07-13-2003, 07:13 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Completely fuct in the head. Just goes to prove the dangers of the things we voluntarily put in our bodies.
 
Old 07-13-2003, 07:15 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Scientific research is laughable? Well, this is predictable considering the source, I guess one would be able to annihilate years of work with a link to hightimes and a "nu uh."
Stop using the straw-man fallacy, please. Scientific research isn't laughable, but the page you brought up with references used to villify marijuana were very laughable. Especially in the manner in which they were presented. What makes it even more funny is you didn't understand those same references when you brought them into the argument.

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Also, I'm glad you agree with me on the dangers of destroying yourself with drugs, this should bring our discussion to a merry end and I can continue to read my book.
I just agree that drugs are not harmless. People use drugs to enhance their lives too, with success. If you can agree with that, then we are in agreement.
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Old 07-14-2003, 12:43 PM   #47 (permalink)
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back to the ORIGINAL topic.....i always thought prime rib tasted like penis....maybe fried prime rib with some ranch dip?? yummy! ::gag::
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:35 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2003, 09:57 AM   #49 (permalink)
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This guy was obviously messed up. Drugs do mess with your head. I've taken a few controlled substances and if it weren't for family I would probably have gone on taking them because I didn't want to face reality and I felt "better" while on them. Life is what you make it - If you are dealing with it while on drugs and not in complete control of yourself then how do you expect to improve your life. I've seen enough parents who don't necessarily have bad trips but instead screw up their kids lives because they aren't in complete control of themselves. They either screw up by simple neglect or by mowing their kids legs off. Doesn't matter to me how the kids got screwed up but drugs had an influence in the whole big picture. Drugs aren't bad in and of themselves but they need to be regulated because when you are on them half the time you can't regulate yourself as well. This is just one example of how that lack of control can go way wrong. For me I choose to live in reality and deal with it. I CAN and WILL make my life better - not just escape from it anymore.
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Old 07-15-2003, 05:39 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Drugs are bad, mmkay?

Geez, what a moron - this definitely deserves an honorable mention in the Darwin awards.
Damn he stole my line!
The worst part aboot it was that it was an awfully small meal too!
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Old 07-15-2003, 06:45 PM   #51 (permalink)
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So does fried penis taste like a chicken frank?
or is it the other other white meat?
Dis he eat beans with his frank?
Simply put: You have to have dick for brains to have dick for dinner. Say no to drugs or at least say no to dick dinners
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Old 07-15-2003, 06:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I wonder if he enjoyed his meal.
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Old 07-15-2003, 07:04 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Incidents like this happen to a VERY, VERY, VERY tinsy, insy, tiny portion of drug users.
Yeah, but a 0% chance is still less than a .001% chance.

I have a picture of a man who sliced all of the skin off his face while high on PCP. If that happened to one guy, it could happen again.

I think that the most important thing to do in regard to drugs, including medications is to know the risks, the benefits, and decide whether you are willing to take the risk to achieve the benefit.

On another note, Why the hell did I have to read this right before I eat hot dogs for dinner?
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Old 07-15-2003, 07:48 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Yeah, but a 0% chance is still less than a .001% chance.
So do you think things like this happen more, less, or equal to non-drug using populations? And if so, do you think it happens more to people with current or underlying mental illness, or those who have no mental illness?

The point I am making is that it can't be used as a decent anti-drug ad.
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Old 07-15-2003, 08:22 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Further more prooves why you shouldnt take drugs friends...

Thats sad beyond words.

I'd rather have bleed to death then be written about in a newspaper, and be able to read it the next day.
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:11 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Let's just say that most drug-dealers in Asia doesn't sample their own goods. Personally, I stick to beer nowadays.

*Remembers new years eve 2000, in Beijing... Shudders*
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:33 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Apparently, according his mother, the poor bastard was also mentally ill. How unlucky can a guy get? Mindless AND dickless.
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Old 07-16-2003, 07:22 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Jesus.... Man i ai'nt never gonna start usin druggs.. Ma' penis is ma' most beloved bodypart an' it ai'nt never commin off...
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:11 PM   #59 (permalink)
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This guy obviously took too many hits of acid and it was his own fault to use the drug without a trip sitter present. Hallocagenics can be mind opening and enlightening at times if they are used correctly, but can be very dangerous if not taken in the right mood or if taken by someone who has mental disabilities.

You can EASILY lose your ego on any mind altering drugs, It's happened to me more than once on shrooms, ambien, and salvia. (Can't say I've had previledge to try LSD because it's dry as fuck where I live) I've totally gone ape shit and lost all my personality and scared the shit out of my friends. Even if you are perfectly fine while taking them sometimes a bad trip is unavoidable, you just have to be around someone who can help you out of one if it happens. And good trips are worth the risk to a lot of people.

How can you say drugs are bad sixate? Not all drugs are recreational you know, most are medical and I just don't see how people diss them all the time then take 2 Advil when they have headaches or expect perscriptions from doctors when they're sick.
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:22 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Soothe.. I think its pretty obvious that he was referring to non medical drugs. Those already have a proven purpose, and thus are a heck of a lot more legal. Mind you.. if you wanna debate all of this stuff, make a topic for it
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Old 07-21-2003, 09:59 PM   #61 (permalink)
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im sorry but im not a guy but that sounds a bit painfull

question how does someone pee when that happens??
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