03-06-2009, 09:52 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Craigslist sued over erotic ads
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So, where is the line? Is it up to Craigslist to remove the content or should they police their own content? Often times it is up to the users of CL to flag posts that they think are fake, or violate the TOS. Does the website bear any culpability in this?? I'm of the mindset that craigslist should do a better job in policing their own content, but I also think that the cops would find benefit from people posting these ads. It seems like it would be easier to track these people since they are posting to a public forum. I've heard stories of police setting up fake ads on craigslist to try and lure johns into calling and setting up a sex buy.. so wouldn't they be just as guilty for pimping on craigslist? |
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03-06-2009, 10:31 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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I think craigslist has a very intelligent stance on erotic service ads (I looked into it after seeing this article somewhere else)
Their personals section was getting clogged with hookers, so they gave the hookers their own section, which requires a $5 per ad fee (or something) and identity verification--the catch is they CONTINUALLY cooperate with the police, handing over credit card and name information whenever asked. This is stated in their TOS. People who use craiglist for their hooker needs stand a pretty decent chance of getting sting'ed.
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03-06-2009, 10:42 AM | #4 (permalink) | |
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Interesting. I was aware of this so I looked it up. You're spot on. This only serves to confuse me further on the subject though, because while Craigslist has done all of this, it seems that like the police would be using it to their advantage even more since a verification process is intact. Seems like if it's not a vice cop posting the ad, that the ones that aren't would be easily noticed by the police and all they would have to do is get the information from CL. |
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03-06-2009, 12:46 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Police should recognize the erotic services section as a tool that will aid them in cracking down on trafficked and abused women who are likely not prostitutes because they want to be. If a girl is in it because she wants to be, she'll go through a reputable agency, which can generally be recognized by advertising her as a person and not a set of measurements and code words detailing what she'll do for you (this is according to an escort who is in it because she's in a non-monogamous relationship with someone who's OK with her job and enjoys making over $100k per year in only 4-5 hours a day, 3 weeks a month.)
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03-06-2009, 03:53 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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He's elected.
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03-06-2009, 05:03 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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OMG, such shaky ground. If you actually read the posts, they arent advertising it explicitly. More like implying...
All languages spoken, GFE Pr0n S* xperience I have a question. Anyone with half a brain knows what happens here but would the disclaimers offered by the prostitutes actually hold any water in court? If I was a member of a jury I would SOOOOO convict you. Thing is, noone is really saying they're selling sex for money. Sure they mean it ... but no ones saying anything. Really the ad is like this conversation: Girl: So you wanna go upstairs? Boy: Yeah, what you got up there. Girl: What do you want **wink wink** Boy: Geez, **gets all excited** I've always wanted to taste some of that.... **points above her shoulder** Girl: I could get you something else, something moooorrreeeee..... Boy: Ohhh uhhh, well... what exactly?!?! What if I just had the best mindblowing sex of my time I decided I really love this girl I'm gonna give her a gift certificate from sears??? or a diamond ring, or a house .... whats the difference? |
03-06-2009, 05:23 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Unless she doesn't want an agency to get a substantial cut of her fee.
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03-06-2009, 05:31 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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This is all well and good. The CL people are cooperating with LEO and "the law" is easier to enforce. But we're still just spending a bunch of money trying to get people to adhered to a set of guideline set up by a bunch of up tight douches. Sorry, just my opinion but I don't care if Mr. Jones pays Mrs. Smith to blow him. As long as it doesn't involve kids I could give a rats ass. Really porn is what? A bajillion dollar industry? What's the difference between paying a lady to screw some guy on camera and paying her to screw some guy off camera?
You're never going to win the war of drugs or stop prostitution. They're both a complete waste of tax payer money.
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03-06-2009, 06:47 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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What is so wrong with legalizing prostitution? It's in the bible; it's not going away. It's legal in many countries - and they require the prostitutes to have monthly testing. So what - as long as you are legal age. Anyone that watches HBO knows there is a request for it - so why not? Pimps? Once Uncle Sam makes it okay, they lose their authority.
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03-06-2009, 07:02 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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Sorry, I don't know what to say about this.
Erotic service ads are published each week here in the free newspapers. I don't know. I guess craigslist should do a better job filtering out illegal content. It's their responsibility as a company. It's their content, technically...right?
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However, here's craigslist ES TOS: Quote:
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03-08-2009, 05:21 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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Look, it's going to happen whether they attack it or not. You can't police the entire internet.
Craigslist at least separates the targeted area for prostitutes to place their ads instead of misleading people - or posting it in inappropriate places. Would you rather have a secluded spot for those types of ads, or would you rather the children stumble upon it in the toys and games area? If you can't stop it - at least allow them to keep it somewhat organized and away from the spots where people who don't want it won't just find it pop up in front of them. I'd hate to have inappropriate posts in say a job posting area if I'm looking for more employees. CL is a great service for what it is - (I've found many job candidates via their job posting area). Let's just keep it clean.
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03-08-2009, 06:05 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I agree with the person above who said this is a PR thing to get the sheriff re-elected. Personally that wouldn't win my vote. I likely vote against him just for spending my tax dollars this way. Of course that would depend on his opponent and his policies on other issues.
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03-09-2009, 05:37 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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He's up in November of next year, but I doubt that this is going to do much for him, given the number of murders that we've had in the last year.
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03-10-2009, 08:49 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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There's no such thing as "reality porn." There's homemade stuff that ends up online, and there's mass-produced stuff. There's no comparison except that sex is involved and money is exchanged. |
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03-10-2009, 11:10 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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Is paying for sex illegal in the US then?
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03-10-2009, 02:20 PM | #27 (permalink) | |
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Updated article: Craigslist reports 90% decrease in number of ad listings in a year
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03-11-2009, 05:35 AM | #28 (permalink) | |
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You can be registered as a sex offender for public urination in some states. That's how fucked up our laws are. |
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03-11-2009, 03:28 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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From what I've read of this, it seems like a publicity stunt by the sheriff. Cook county has a lot of bigger problems to worry about. I think the sheriff is just trying to draw attention away from the homicide and violent crimes since those are a little harder to solve.
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03-11-2009, 03:51 PM | #30 (permalink) | |
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03-14-2009, 11:18 AM | #31 (permalink) |
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I wonder what the educators on our TFP board think about this ... just curious.
Teacher played hooker click to show I don't know, how I feel about this particular situation. I'm kinda feeling like hypocrate to think this draws the line. I wonder how y'all feel about someone prominent in your child(rens) education would behave like this. |
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