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Old 01-29-2008, 05:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cell Phone Annoyances

Originally posted it in my journal. Decided to make a post out of it.

Here's the place to vent about inappropriate cell phone use, what you've done about it, how you've responded to it, and what you believe we should do about it.

Today I was frustrated by a person chatting on their cell phone next to me in the library. I turned to her when she hung up and said, "Excuse me, do you have any idea how rude you were?"
She looked at me, shocked, "uhh, no."
"This is a library. You don't turn a cell phone on in a library, much less answer it and carry on a conversation about how you're in the library."
She stared. Finally, "You're kidding, right?"
I packed up my stuff. Stood up. Picked up her cell phone. Made a move to chuck it vehemently to the floor. Then threw it in her lab when she said, "HEY!"

Normally, I don't react this way. I'm usually just minorly frustrated. Less so if it sounds like one of those urgent conversations, for which cell phones were invented: loved one is dying in the hospital and you're waiting for news, or you have a sister who is giving birth sometime this week and you want to be there for it.

I blame my behavior on PMS.
What really shocked me, though, was that this fluently English-speaking, well-educated Californian had no idea that it wasn't appropriate to talk above a whisper in a library, much less chat on a cell phone.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ha kudos on the scolding... such insolence along those lines also drives me nuts.

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Old 01-29-2008, 07:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How much noise did you make in the library by scolding her?
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good job. By disturbing everybody... maybe they'll think twice about being "that guy" in a place where it is no excuse.

Kids and their cell phones. Is that conversation THAT important?

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Old 01-29-2008, 08:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Blame your outrage on her being a stupid fucking git, not PMS.
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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GG, I've noticed this on my campus too. There are people who answer their phones in the middle of lecture. Shit, there's a guy in my math lecture who has a little Bluetooth headset so he can talk all through class. Fucking annoying.

What happened to common courtesy?
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What about when people take their cell phones into the bathroom...

I always try to make as much bodily function noise as possible when they do that...
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How much noise did you make in the library by scolding her?
Ha ha ha good point, but I think he was just standing up for his fellow library patrons.


I hate cellphones. My ringer is on silent all the time. I look to see who called me and then return the call. I hate to hear that thing ring, because it only does when I'm in the shower...or eating...or sleeping...or....
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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One time I was teaching my swim class, kids aged around 8-9 years old. One of the little girls mothers kept coming over to the edge of the pool with a towel and her cell phone in hand. She allowed her daughter to dry her hands and then respond to a text message. She did this about twice before I told her to please wait until the end of the lesson. Un-freaking-believable.

I've noticed that on campus too at Tech. During my Poli-Sci class one guy answered his phone twice during lecture and kept talking before he walked out to finish his call. After class I called him out on it, (he was in my group for our final project) and said it was very rude. He responded that it was just his ringer so he could leave class. Whatever, if you don't want to respect your teacher stay home or out of the library.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Pedestrians and drivers. Ugh! I've encountered people jaywalking in the middle of a busy road, holding their hand up while crossing the middle of a street with a 45 - 50 mph speed limit, phone glued to their ear.

I've had drivers cut me off and suddenly slow down. After waiting for them to regain speed, when I pass them I can see they're on the phone.

I don't think you were bitchy at all, GG. Some people think when their cell phone rings, the world needs to revolve around them.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't think you were bitchy at all, GG. Some people think when their cell phone rings, the world needs to revolve around them.
A phone this big practically makes it revolve around you.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Way to go, I think that if more people told kids about proper manners maybe it will slowly sink in.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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How much noise did you make in the library by scolding her?
whisper.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:45 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I dunno, I think you were kinda a bitch. I guess I don't really have a problem with people talking on their cell phones, because I've grown up with it.

It's going to happen more and more, so I'm glad I'm used to it already.

They're an adult, and I don't think it's anyone's place to scold someone else unless they're truly in a position of power over them. I might've been more polite in my response (eg 'sorry'), but I wouldn't have been pleased with your attitude.

"Do you know how rude you were being" is not a statement designed to elicit a positive response.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's just the PMS.

Next time wear ear plugs while in the library.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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wtf? A library is a place people go to study/research in quiet, its not social time there, we do not go there to hear other people's telephone conversations.

seriously some of you think a library is an appropriate place to be disturbing other people? damn

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Old 01-30-2008, 12:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Oooh, and that means they can read the big sign on the way into the library that says "NO CELL PHONES, PLEASE BE QUIET."

Pfft... rules are rules... and they're no good if enforcement isn't instantaneous.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
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There is a really annoying trend of people playing music on their cellphones through the built-in loudspeakers in public places - specifically public transport. I don't want to hear your stupid manufactured-pop crap when I'm standing up in a sweaty bus stuck in rush-hour traffic.

Or even more stupid - when someone decides to go listen to their entire ringtone collection at full volume. On public transport.

The worst thing is that people don't say anything here, because there is a genuine risk that the perpetrator might turn around and knife you. I have certainly given thought to knifing these people. GRRR.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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There is a really annoying trend of people playing music on their cellphones through the built-in loudspeakers in public places - specifically public transport. I don't want to hear your stupid manufactured-pop crap when I'm standing up in a sweaty bus stuck in rush-hour traffic.

Or even more stupid - when someone decides to go listen to their entire ringtone collection at full volume. On public transport.

The worst thing is that people don't say anything here, because there is a genuine risk that the perpetrator might turn around and knife you. I have certainly given thought to knifing these people. GRRR.
I was in court the other day and these assholes were walking through the halls blasting some shitting rap music... In a court house... Needless to say they got kicked out. But not without a fight.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Rude people suck. They're also pretty ubiquitous. The way I figure it, you can do the whole visceral thing and 'teach them a lesson,' or you can just get on with your day. It only bothers you if you let it.

I mean, you do realize that after you walked out of the library that girl probably called her friends right away to tell them about the rude person who almost broke her phone, don't you? Aside from making you feel better, your actions aren't likely to have changed anything at all.

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The worst thing is that people don't say anything here, because there is a genuine risk that the perpetrator might turn around and knife you.
So when you get on a public bus, being knifed by a stranger for almost no reason is a serious concern for you? Dude. I don't know where you live, but I'm glad I'm not there.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I think if I witnessed this scene in real time I would have had to stifle an erection. The only thing that could have made it better is if you took her SIM card out and ground it to dust right in front of her.

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Old 01-30-2008, 03:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I had a friend who would teach guitar lessons. One of his students interrupted his lesson by taking a call. When his 60 minutes were up(by the clock) my friend made his move to wrap up the session. The student then reminded him that he was leaving him 20 minutes short of class time. My friend stood up and said, you took that 20 minutes on the phone buddy. My time is my time, regardless of how you choose to spend it the clock still ticks. The nerve of some people.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Cellphones have no place in a library. I'd be pissed off if I was trying to study and some nitwit was yakking away about something that wasn't an emergency.

Like Shani said gg...you go girl.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:04 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Cellphones have no place in a library. I'd be pissed off if I was trying to study and some nitwit was yakking away about something that wasn't an emergency.

Like Shani said gg...you go girl.
Yeah gg

The one other place I can't stand it is at the movie.

That girl took 3 calls during, and in one she was telling what is happening.

People around were giving comment, but for that teen, it was us who was wrong.

Good thing they show the montage to tell you to turn off your cell before the movie itself!!!!
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:45 PM   #27 (permalink)
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We have "No Cellphone Use" signs all over the place at work. They can interfere with the heart monitors. It doesn't matter how you tell people or how many times, they always get pissed off when you tell them to take it outside.
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So when you get on a public bus, being knifed by a stranger for almost no reason is a serious concern for you? Dude. I don't know where you live, but I'm glad I'm not there.
I live in London. There have been numerous stories of people getting violent when confronted with their rude behaviour (talking on cellphone, dropping litter, throwing chips at people). If everyone got hard-line on rude behaviour, we'd probably be all right but people are afraid.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:19 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I must have a high rude-tolerance gauge or something. I can't see being pissed at any of the the things described above (besides the being stabbed thing).

Why do you all get so hot-and-bothered by someone on a cell phone or someone playing music? It's their world too.

I'm about the quietest person you'll find in public, and I don't answer my phone when it'd be rude to do so, but I don't give a flying fuck if someone else does.
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Yeah gg

The one other place I can't stand it is at the movie.

That girl took 3 calls during, and in one she was telling what is happening.

People around were giving comment, but for that teen, it was us who was wrong.

Good thing they show the montage to tell you to turn off your cell before the movie itself!!!!
After the first time I would've gone to get the usher. Around here that'll get you kicked out of the theater lickety-split.
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OK, so I missed that one. I'd be pissed at having a conversation during a movie.

Not a library or a public bus, though.
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I dont get that....its not ok at a movie but its ok at a library? why?
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:05 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I dont get that....its not ok at a movie but its ok at a library? why?
Because I've never bought into the "library is a quiet sanctuary" crap that most people believe. I don't need dead silence to read a fucking book. I think I expect that if I'm AROUND other people, there will be noise. If you want absolute silence, check the damn book out and go home.

Granted I still wouldn't answer my phone in a library because I don't like upsetting the Noise Nazis who believe it should be more silent than Jesus on day 2 in a library, but I'm not personally upset by others that do.

What's so special about books that make them any different from a store, a restaraunt, etc., somehow demanding special rules about noise?
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What's so special about books that make them any different from a store, a restaraunt, etc., somehow demanding special rules about noise?
Focus? You may be one of those that can read and study in the bleachers at the Grand Prix, but some of us need solitude.

That's why libraries instituted that "rule" many moons ago. Consideration, nothing more.
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maybe the signs that state to keep quiet? Its not like its a book store....I go to mine to do research and I really dont want to hear 20 different conversations about crap I dont care about while Im doing that

Thankfully my library post signs specifically stating no cell phone use and I have seen them come and ask people who choose to ignore it to please take their conversation outside the building
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First of all, the TFP wouldn't be what it is if the MEMBERS didn't stand up for its rules. So, to JinnKai, it's absolutely imperative that people enforce the rules of an establishment even if they are not in a position of authority. Secondly, touching someone else's property is totally uncalled for. Totally.
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Not a library or a public bus, though.
Londoners spend an inordinate amount of time on public transport. I've spent over two hours a working day on public transport for most of the year I've been in London. At the end of a long working day, I really don't want to hear some inconsiderate loudmouth blabbering into a phone.

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Because I've never bought into the "library is a quiet sanctuary" crap that most people believe. I don't need dead silence to read a fucking book. I think I expect that if I'm AROUND other people, there will be noise. If you want absolute silence, check the damn book out and go home.
Firstly, most libraries have limits on how many books you can check out, and secondly many libraries have some books which can't be checked out. A library is not just a place to check out books, it's a resource to be used there and then... if you're doing research from several books for a short period of time, it makes more sense to do so at the library. That's what it's FOR. If someone wants to talk on the phone, there's no reason they can't leave the library and do so.

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As jewels443 said, focus. I don't know about you, but when I read, I'm usually thinking (and often studying). It's hard to concentrate continuously for any length of time when there are distractions around when you. Ok, perhaps not you, but it's hard for ME... and I'm guessing most other people out there.
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I live in London. There have been numerous stories of people getting violent when confronted with their rude behaviour (talking on cellphone, dropping litter, throwing chips at people). If everyone got hard-line on rude behaviour, we'd probably be all right but people are afraid.
Yes, but in a city of almost 8 million people with sensationalist and ubiquitous trashy media, of course there are. It doesn't mean it's common or at all likely.

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Because I've never bought into the "library is a quiet sanctuary" crap that most people believe. I don't need dead silence to read a fucking book. I think I expect that if I'm AROUND other people, there will be noise. If you want absolute silence, check the damn book out and go home.
+1. I've heard people bitch about people saying hi to a friend, asking the librarian a question or asking someone to call them back later in a library and I really don't get this noise-fascism. If you really can't work with people rustling pages or coughing, just put on your headphones and block it out with music. You could even use earplugs.

Sure, people shouldn't be playing football, running around, having massive conversations or yelling in a library, but there's nothing wrong with a bit of noise above the silence.

However, talking in a movie is unforgivable for obvious reasons.

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"Do you know how rude you were being" is not a statement designed to elicit a positive response.

Yes, I could have rephrased it with, "are you aware that cell phone use is not permitted in libraries." Unfortunately, I was acting on impulse, and the words did not come.

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Secondly, touching someone else's property is totally uncalled for. Totally.
I'm curious, how exactly would you have drilled in the point?
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