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Old 06-05-2007, 03:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am late

For everything, all the time. I can't remember the last time I got somewhere when I was supposed to, heaven forbid even being early. I plan to leave myself plenty of time to get somewhere, then end up leaving late. Even though I had tons of time to do everything I needed to do! Then I end up frustrated at myself for being late yet again... and yet I don't feel a sense of urgency to be ready on time when I actually have enough time to do something about it.

I can't help thinking it's probably affecting how well I do in life.

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Old 06-05-2007, 03:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought you meant you were pregnant.

Get a personal calendar. Mark everything down and try to do it at the correct time. If you miss something have negative reinforcement. If you make it, have positive reinforcement.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I used to be late all the time.
Finally having realized that time is limited, I'm "early".
Guess what? Same difference.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I used to give myself 30 minutes to get anywhere in town. I don't do that so much anymore- I only live 4 miles from work now- but I live with two major distractions (hi, guys!) so I had to come up with new tricks. Last night I laid out my clothes so that I didn't have to think about them today. It helped! Whatever you decide, try to do that same thing every day for a week- make it a habit.

Are you finding that you've put aside time to leave early, gotten everything together, and then you decide to "do something" with that extra time you suddenly have?
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm pretty much always either on time or (more often) early. I go out of my way to make sure I leave with plenty of time to spare.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My wife has been late for over the 30 years I've known her. It has cost her promotion at work and other bennies. If I wan't her to get somewhere on time I'll give her the wrong time. If a party is at 9pm I'll tell her it's at 8pm. It has worked for me. Some people are just always late. With my wife A.D.D. has something to do with it. She was over 45 minutes late for our wedding.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sharon, do you have a general routine when you're getting ready? If so, you might want to switch it up... I tried that today after being late to work everyday for the past week, and it worked! I didn't wake up any earlier, but somehow changing the order in which I got ready gave me an extra 5 minutes by the time I got in my car.

Other than that, I think will's idea of positive/negative reinforcement is a good one. Just keep with it at least a month so that it becomes habitual.
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm the same way-late for everything. I was late for my sister's wedding, a tad late for my own; if scheduled for mornings, I'm late or running in at one minute to and I never get out of the house when everyone else is ready.
I've tried the half-hour earlier thing, but if I know what time I really have to be there, it makes no difference.
I also have IBS, which, when I'm rushed or nervous, goes into effect and that as well makes me late.
I try to give myself two hours to get ready for anything now. I know I can do it in less than one, but two gives me the time to collect myself.
If I know Don is coming to pick me up at, say, 10:30, I shoot for 10(he's always early anyway). If I know I have to be at a show at 9am to set up, I shoot for 8 and I'm usually out of the house by 8:30 that way. My alarm clock is 13 minutes fast. Clothes for work don't get ironed and they are always hanging up in the same place-there's no 'some things in this closet, some in others'-shoes for work are always in the same place as well. I learned to keep things like keys, watches, etc., in their own distinct places so I'm not looking for them.
I feel your pain. My parents still get ticked at me when I'm late for something and the spouse in his old age is just learning to accept it.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i always give my self plenty of time, i wake up 2 hours before i have to go anywhere. and i set my cellphones alarm to 15 minutes before i have to be some where. every time your late, add 5 minutes, until you find out how much time you need, keep adding it until your not late.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I look at it as a severe lack of personal responsibility and respect when late to anything. That goes for my self, and others.

I have a natural tendency to get sidetracked very easily, so I have to work around it.

How? Well if its a morning thing, I wake up a good long bit of a time ahead. Such as 2 hours or so before. If it is an evening thing, those I'm fairly good at being punctual with, so I just leave a good amount of time for driving.

Where ever it is you have to go, get ready for it completely a good 40minutes before you even need to leave.

This means showered, teeth brushed, dressed, prepared items, the works. Make it so all you have to do is grab the keys and go.

It works for me.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm generally pretty punctual and for Portuguese people that is a rarity because here everybody is always late...maybe you should move out here?

I think there's no excuse for being late. If I'm on time, why can't others be on time too? All you need to do is allow yourself the realistic amount of time to do things before you need to be somewhere. You can make all the excuses you want but at the end of day, it's a case of knowing how to manage your time and being responsible for your own actions.

Being late all the time also affects the way others view you, usually negatively. So I agree its probably having an effect on how you do in life.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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I got nothin' for you, Sharon. Any advice I might give would mark me immediately as a hypocrite.

The only things I am NOT late for are things that carry immediate and obvious consequences. E.g. when I clock in at work, the computer records the date and time precisely... so I cannot be late or I will get punished for it. Or when I did rowing in college, we had to jump in the bone-chilling water of the canal if we were late... I was never late!! But even in those circumstances, I cut it damn close every single time. There is something in my very being that hates being early for things. It feels like a waste of time for me (I know, ironic isn't it.)

In classes, it was a miracle if I was in my seat (or teaching, if that was my position) more than 15 seconds before the start of class. And turning in papers happened no more than 3 minutes before the deadline. Usually more like 1.5 minutes, if not closer (we are talking about me running across campus with a freshly-printed paper in my hands, trying to get into the building before the campus police locked up for the night... on a regular basis). But I always made it on time.

So, I think in my strange way, I have adapted to being either a hairbreadth away from being late, or just plain being late (especially social occasions). It works for me, for the most part, except that ktspktsp gets frustrated when we are more than 30 minutes late to a party. But I consider 30 minutes late to still be too early, especially in Iceland! So it goes. I work on it, but I still suck at it. But so far nothing has ever gone really wrong as a result of my patterns. Maybe that's why it hasn't changed.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Are you finding that you've put aside time to leave early, gotten everything together, and then you decide to "do something" with that extra time you suddenly have?
Yes... and then I end up getting into it, and not realising until it's too late. Or I think, "I need 20 mins to get ready, but I have an hour, that's plenty of time.. I'll just do this for a sec..." and before I know it I have to leave in 10 mins.

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I look at it as a severe lack of personal responsibility and respect when late to anything. That goes for my self, and others.
I agree and I think that is the root of the problem. I'm just really irresponsible. It's probably a bigger problem than just being late.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You need an empty table beside your door. Before you go out, prepare everything and place what you need on that table so that when you want to leave soon, you can just take everything from the table and leave. You don't have to go rush to find keys, bag, other things immediately before. You can prepare the table the night before or 2-3 hours before. Just don't do less than 15 minutes before.

For your changing, you can put clothes you want to go out wearing on hooks behind your bedroom door. So you can just change quickly in less than 5 minutes instead of searching the closet and drawers. If you want to prepare a lot, just use more than 1 hook to set up 3 or more days of clothes.

So everything is prepared a long time ago and you can get everything immediately to go out. No fuss.
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Old 06-07-2007, 05:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I am late a lot too sharon. And I could have everything prepared, be ready to go an hour early and find a reason to be late. I don't have much of an explanation for this other than I do like to push things to the last minute (like papers in school, some of my best work was done when the paper was past due). I like to try and fit in as much as I can before I have to leave. I really don't know how else to explain it. I have gotten much better with it, but still tend to be at least a minute or two late, it's kinda engrained in me. I feel weird if I'm early, it's like all it not right. I have done a lot better, and I have pretty much come to terms with the fact that I am late. I think if it's like 5 minutes late, it doesn't count (please tell this to my work). I used to have every clock I owned (car, house, watches, cell, etc) on a different time, but I adapted to that too and would work around it. I like pressure I think. Like I said, early doesn't feel right to me. Maybe there are just early people and there are late people? I've done my best to reign in my lateness and think I shall just accept that 5 minutes late is just who I am.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:27 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I have gotten much better with it, but still tend to be at least a minute or two late, it's kinda engrained in me. I feel weird if I'm early, it's like all it not right.
I also agree with Destrox on the late thing. I absolutely hate being late, always have. About two years ago I made a "habit" of being either on-time or 5-10 mins late.

Then I had someone show up late on me, multiple times. Kinda got a taste of my own medicine.

On the flip side, tenniels, it feels weird if I'm late now. I had to drill earliness into my personality so I could get the respect that I deserve. I've kinda learned not to live by my fleeting "feelings", because they we're almost always wrong, getting me into some type of trouble.

Our human collective is nothing more than a definition of repeatable behaviors. If someone gets excited/anxious from being late, our brains will want to replicate that feel, and enforce the behaviour that brings it about.

Eh. we're too complicated for our own good sometimes.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:53 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Then I had someone show up late on me, multiple times. Kinda got a taste of my own medicine.
Interesting point, that suffering the own lack of reliability usually works
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:41 AM   #19 (permalink)
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A kid from my school shocked himself with a battery and nipple clamps every time he left his zipper down, maybe you should look into it for negative reinforcement?

Btw, he called it the "Nipple sprotzen".
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:39 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Late, I procrastinate being on time. It's a running joke that I run on absorbentishe time for everyting (at least 15 minutes late).
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't like being late. very rarely am I late for anything unless the person I am with makes me so.

The thing I hate the most is when I have an appointment and the person makes me wait for them. My current boss is like this, she makes a meeting and then doesn't show up for it or, shows up extremely late with no notice.

It's a waste of my time and energy.

If you don't want to be a person who is late for everything, you just need to plan ahead. Get up earlier, leave plenty of travel time, know in advance where you need to be and how long it takes to get there. Then, stick to the schedule.

it isn't rocket science.
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:25 AM   #22 (permalink)
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It's a waste of my time and energy.


it isn't rocket science.

Hah, I have someone who's 34 mins late now, and he gave himself an hour window. Waking up early for a late person: Frustrating. Goose-fraaba!
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:31 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Time management begins with one of the absolute basics - arrive on time. In his book Copy This!, the founder of Kinko’s (now FedEx Kinko’s) Paul Orfalea recounts that he would make hiring decisions based on key basic modes of operating. One of those is being punctual. I’m sure that Mr. Orfalea isn’t the only one making career decisions based on being on time and other fundamentals of operating in a business context.

If you’re not the one, you undoubtedly know people who show up late. Sometime they cause a group of people to stop their momentum while the latecomer is brought up to speed. Those on time drum their fingers (figuratively if not actually), change their train of thought and engage in other time filling activities while the latecomer is briefed. I have heard those who were interrupted mumbling under their breath, rolling their eyes, and give other negative feedback – even if the latecomer can hear or see them.

Here are the negative associated with people that arrive late:

* Latecomers are holding up others and hurting the productivity of everyone who has to wait
* Latecomers are demoralizing those who do bother to show up on time. This sometime starts a chain reaction where everyone starts showing up 5 then 10 then 15 minutes late to the detriment of all.
* Showing up late disrespects others’ time. It is interpreted as ‘The latecomer thinks he is more important or has better things to do than I do.’
* Other people extend lateness to meeting to expect tardiness in other arenas such as project deadlines. Thus, managers label late comers as high maintenance and dependant on others since the manager infers latecomers will be unreliable to be self-regulating. The manager has additional work to check on the work of the late contributor.
* Late people start a domino affect that can set entire groups, departments, and projects back. That hurts reputations as well as budgets and plans.
* Latecomers can get a reputation as ‘in need of attention’, ‘show boater’, ‘egomaniac’, and more.

Some of the positives associated with people who are on time and early: These attributes may not be earned but they are applied as an extension of being on time.

* They’re reliable and easy to count on.
* They won’t let a person, manager, or department down.
* They can be trusted with important (career building) activities and responsibilities.
* They are predictable in a positive way.
* They are proactive and contributors.
* They are conscientious.

If being on time is an opportunity for development for you consider these steps down the path to being on time:

* Mentally reprogram yourself to arrive 5 minutes early to every meeting. Put them on your calendar for 10 minutes before start time. For example, a 2:00pm meeting is put as 1:50pm on your calendar.
* Practice exit strategies so you leave previous commitments with enough time to get to the next one.
* Do not stop at your computer to check email just before a meeting.
* Plan your usual departure to a meeting and leave 10 minutes “early.”
* Call if it’s the rare occasion that you’re running late.
* DO NOT set your watch or clocks 5 or 10 minutes ahead. The rest of the world runs on real time so you need to synchronize with actual time.
* Set alarms in your computer calendar to remind you to wrap-up current work and get off to a meeting on time.
* Visualize the possible surprise and recognition you’ll receive for leading by arriving early.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:35 AM   #24 (permalink)
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