clavus

I’m learning a lot about roofs. My last house had a roof that was problematic. So much so, that it required calls to no fewer than seven different roofers, (three of whom did any actual work) and took almost six months to repair.

My office had a roof funneled great quantities of water right onto the floor. This one required the work of three different roofers over the course of several weeks. I believe the process was expedited by the fact that I was able to stand outside and point right to the spot where I could see water entering the roof.

My current house needs a roof. It does this thing where rain starts out on top on the roof, but then ends up inside the house. And I don’t like that kind of roof. So I’m talking to roofers once again.

What I’ve learned so far:

You have a problem with dry rot. You. Yes you, assuming you have a roof. It doesn’t matter who you are, or where you live, even if you live in a tent or in a concrete bunker. You have problem, and “dry rot” is its name.

Modern roofs are made entirely of spun gold and crushed diamonds. Or at least that’s the only reason I can fathom for modern roof pricing.

Any roof installed by any roofer other than the one inspecting it “was put on wrong.”

Any roofer confronted with the assertion that he “put the roof on wrong” will counter he is the only roofer in the area who knows how to roof, and that the other roofers are all “idiots who don’t know nothing.”

Roofers are a lot like bad boyfriends. They never call when they say they will. They never show up when they say they will. And after they fuck you, they will never speak to you again, no matter how many messages you leave. You may be wet and frustrated, but it not their problem.
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No offense to flyman, who is a roofer of the highest calibre. I'm sure if he were here right now, all my problems would be solved.

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DaElf

My dad had the same problem for a long time. Could'nt get anyone to show up and they wouldn't do what they said they would do etc. Eventually he ended hiring a 50 year mexican. Paid him and his mexican crew 1600 to fix the roof. LOL the mexican guy gave my a dad a discount for paying in cash. Anyway the guy finished the roof in one day and did a kick ass job. When I say kick ass I mean it is perfect. I told my dad he was lucky and judging by your post he was.

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MexicanOnABike

call mike holmes.

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Fly

clavus..........you are so right man.........it comes down to workmanship,and if you have problems before the bastards even go up there........kick their sorry asses to the curb man.

it's too bad that people (all trades for that matter) go outta their way to fuck people over.

the way i see it....you do a great job at a decent price......the dude whos roof you just fixed might actually send your name onto other peeps......is that not a helluva way to muster up some buisness?

i'd love to have helped you buddy......

and just to say........roofers are fucking scumbags man........

.....and i'm a roofer so i can say that.


good luck man.

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The_Jazz

Ok, your first problem is that you're in California. That means that you've got some of the worst contractors and highest insurance prices in the US. It's worse in SoCal, but NoCal is no picnic. Just to give you an idea of the contractor culture there, the average insurance price for a new home in CA is about $75,000 (as of 2004, which is the last year I have number for). That's for the workers compensation and the liability coverage for when you sue them for the construction defects you discovered (like in your roof).

The second problem is that roofers are the next-to-lowest rung of the construction ladder. The lowest is the demolition guys since you really don't need much skill beyond the very basics to knock things down. Roofers have a dirty, hot, nasty job that is pretty dangerous. And they don't work for much money unless they own their own business (unless they're really good). It's not uncommon for us in the insurance industry to find out after the fact that some roofer client has done something exceedingly stupid like transporting asbestos to the dump in an open pickup truck, basically exposing the entire community to an increased risk of cancer. Joyous.

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JStrider

my parents in cali had an issue with the roof over our patio, it leaked pretty bad and was starting to damage the stucco ceiling on the patio...

took a half dozen visits by 3 roofers to finally get it fixed... we found a good one with the third and he charged us a fair price and did good work.

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