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Grasshopper Green · 05-27-2006, 05:55 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/200605...ithparascience

If you're just a bit more cautious on a Friday the 13th, wouldn't fly on 9/11 or could never live in a house numbered 666, you are not alone.

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With 06/06/06 looming (June 6, 2006), authorities in some cities are worrying prophecy theorists or hate groups might read something ominous into the date and use it as an excuse to stir tension. Some expectant mothers are making birthing appointments to ensure they avoid the date, according to the Sunday Times in London.

And for others, it is a marketing opportunity. 20th Century Fox's remake of "The Omen" and Ann Coulter's book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," will both come out June 6.

The Beast

The number 666 is used to refer to the beast in the Bible's Book of Revelations:

"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."

Among many coincidences that occur with numbers, life itself is based partly on these three: Carbon atoms, key to life as we know it, have six protons, six neutrons, and six electrons in their most common form.

That there is concern over the date at all is a reflection of how popular it's become to search for the hidden meanings in numbers, experts say.

"People have a tendency to latch onto things, like numbers, that help them make sense of the world," said Mario Livio, an astrophysicist and author of "The Equation That Couldn't Be Solved" (Simon & Schuster, 2005).

Troubled times

The perceived importance of numbers becomes especially true during troubled times, when finding wisdom in numbers can be a comfort, says professional numerologist Sonia Ducie. "Humanity and individuals are attracted to numbers during times of great transformation," Ducie said. The Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks are an overwhelming example. Conspiracy theorists in the years since the tragedy have tried hard to thread together "eerie" numerological coincidences, especially those tied to the number eleven. A few of the best known:

9 + 1 + 1 = 11
The first plane to hit the World Trade Center was American Airlines Flight 11; AA can also be "translated" as the alphabet's version of 11.
The State of New York was the eleventh state added to the union.
The names George W. Bush, New York City, Air Force One, Afghanistan and The Pentagon all contain eleven letters.

Despite its modern manifestations, searching for deeper meanings in numbers is a practice that goes back to ancient times, Livio said.

"Numerology has a long history," he told LiveScience. "You can trace it all the way from the followers of Pythagoras, whose maxim to describe the universe was ‘all is number.'" Thinkers who studied under the famous Greek mathematician combined numbers in different ways to explain everything around them, he said.

Para-science

Modern numerology has since morphed into a kind of para-science in the same vein as astrology, according to skeptics. Still, many numerologists claim to rely on Pythagoras' ancient system to divine the hidden connections between numbers—often a birth date—and an individual's life.

Our attraction to certain numbers has to do with the cycles of birth and death those numbers have seen through many millions of years in existence, said Ducie, who trained at the Connaissance School of Numerology in Hertfordshire, England.

"People are subconsciously drawn towards specific numbers because they know that they need the experiences, attributes or lessons, associated with them, that are contained within their potential," she said. "Numerology can ‘make sense' of an individual's life (health, career, relationships, situations and issues) by recognizing which number cycle they are in, and by giving them clarity."

Mathematicians are quick to dismiss numerology as having any scientific merit, however.

"I don't endorse this at all," said Livio, when asked to comment on the popularity of commercial numerology today. Seemingly coincidental connections between numbers will always appear if you look hard enough, he said.

Lucky numbers

When it comes to lucky numbers, at least, Ducie agreed."People can also ‘make' numbers lucky simply by believing they will be lucky when they have those numbers around them; these preconditioned thoughts strongly contribute towards their manifestation of luck," she said.
The obsession with particular numbers also tend to wax and wane according to the trends of popular culture, Livio noted.

Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code" (Doubleday, 2003) has played a part with its showcase of the golden ratio, or divine proportion, which Livio explores in his book "The Golden Ratio" (Broadway, 2003). The very precise number is said to exist mysteriously in various places in nature and be extremely attractive to the human eye. Spin-offs in the worlds of architecture, art and even diet books are a result of the "Code" phenomenon.

Ronald Reagan's 666

The supposed number of the devil falls in and out of favor with the public, too. It is unclear just how influential the number was in the centuries after the Bible became widespread as literature, but it was certainly ingrained in popular culture after the 1976 release of the movie "The Omen", in which the neck of a demon-child is stamped with the digits 666.

When former President Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy retired to their last home in California thirteen years later, they forced officials to change their address from 666 to 668 St. Cloud Road, Livio said.

No word on whether the former president whose full name is Ronald Wilson Reagan, was bothered by the number of letters in each of his first, middle and last names.

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I hadn't even thought of this date having any sort of meaning. I know a lot of people put stock in date and number significance...but since the date is actually 06/06/06, why the uneasiness?

I never pay attention to Friday the 13th, considered a trip in September in which I'd have flown on the 11th, and scheduling an induced birth/caesarian so my child wouldn't be born on this date would never even cross my mind. What do you think? Is this just superstitious silliness, or do dates and numbers really play significant roles in our lives?

pan6467 · 05-27-2006, 07:13 AM

It depends on how you believe.

I know, I can't get wishy washier than that. But seriously, I believe in the powers of the mind and if you believe hard enough in numerology and never waver from that belief you'll make things happen. Or, you just put numbers together to get the answer you are looking for.

It's like the Book of Revelations, it will only come true if enough people wish it to (mass hysteria, pushed forth by Christian relious leaders afraid to lose power so they use fear to control their masses). If people heed the warnings and decide to set forth man's own destiny Revelations will never happen.

It's like the guy who smokes 3 packs a day, believes cigarettes aren't going to hurt him and refuses to listen to any warnings about it. This guy never has any smoking related illnesses. Is it because of his genetics or was it because he truly believed cigarettes wouldn't hurt him and he never doubted his beliefs?

Or the person who lives well into their 90's and is very healthy, yet ate anything they wanted. You ask and find their belief is they couldn't die yet because their family still needed them. (My grandmother, who is 95, is a great example of this.)

I know I rambled but the powers of the mind and beliefs are a very, very, interesting and intriguing subject to me.

Gilda · 05-27-2006, 03:26 PM

We have plans to go to the opening of The Omen on June 6th. Otherwise it means nothing.

Gilda

ASU2003 · 05-27-2006, 04:15 PM

The anti-christ will be born that day, sealing the fate of the human race. Doesn't everybody know that.

maleficent · 05-27-2006, 04:36 PM

i thought the world was supposed to end... damn guess i better pay master card...

I can't believe that the Omen has been remade - wasn't it bad enough the first time around?

filtherton · 05-27-2006, 04:38 PM

I heard that it was being proclaimed an international day of Slayer. My roomate plans to walk around with a boom box bumping slayer all day.

aKula · 05-27-2006, 06:58 PM

Reminds me of a passage in War and Peace. http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au...hapter186.html

Quote:

One of his brother Masons had revealed to Pierre the following prophecy concerning Napoleon, drawn from the Revelation of St. John.

In chapter 13, verse 18, of the Apocalypse, it is said:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

And in the fifth verse of the same chapter:

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

The French alphabet, written out with the same numerical values as the Hebrew, in which the first nine letters denote units and the others tens, will have the following significance:

a b c d e f g h i k
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
l m n o p q r s
20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90
t u v w x y
100 110 120 130 140 150
z
160

Writing the words L’Empereur Napoleon in numbers, it appears that the sum of them is 666, and that Napoleon therefore the beast foretold in the Apocalypse. Moreover, by applying the same system to the words quarante-deux,* which was the term allowed to the beast that “spoke great things and blasphemies,” the same number 666 was obtained; from which it followed that the limit fixed for Napoleon’s power had come in the year 1812 when the French emperor was forty-two. This prophecy pleased Pierre very much and he often asked himself what would put an end to the power of the beast, that is, of Napoleon, and tried by the same system of using letters as numbers and adding them up, to find an answer to the question that engrossed him. He wrote the words L’Empereur Alexandre, La nation russe and added up their numbers, but the sums were either more or less than 666. Once when making such calculations he wrote down his own name in French, Comte Pierre Besouhoff, but the sum of the numbers did not come right. Then he changed the spelling, substituting a z for the s and adding de and the article le, still without obtaining the desired result. Then it occurred to him: if the answer to the question were contained in his name, his nationality would also be given in the answer. So he wrote Le russe Besuhof and adding up the numbers got 671. This was only five too much, and five was represented by e, the very letter elided from the article le before the word Empereur. By omitting the e, though incorrectly, Pierre got the answer he sought. L’russe Besuhof made 666. This discovery excited him. How, or by what means, he was connected with the great event foretold in the Apocalypse he did not know, but he did not doubt that connection for a moment. His love for Natasha, Antichrist, Napoleon, the invasion, the comet, 666, L’Empereur Napoleon, and L’russe Besuhof— all this had to mature and culminate, to lift him out of that spellbound, petty sphere of Moscow habits in which he felt himself held captive and lead him to a great achievement and great happiness.

Try hard enough and you can give anything significance using such a system.

Gilda · 05-27-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by filtherton

I heard that it was being proclaimed an international day of Slayer. My roomate plans to walk around with a boom box bumping slayer all day.

Cool! We just got The Chosen Collection!

Gilda

crow_daw · 05-27-2006, 10:44 PM

I agree with pan6467. Not only do I agree with the power of the mind (it holds a very strong mystique for me too), but I think that the truth is kinda what you make it. Truth is in the eye of the beholder.

I know that I won't lose any sleep over it.

Rodney · 05-28-2006, 07:29 AM

I'm going to make a joke out of it. Why not?

Years ago when I was single, I used to go to this one diner once a week or so and order the same meal -- mac 'n cheese with veg and salad, a coke. With tax, the total came to $6.66. After two or three times I realized what was going on and started representing myself to waitresses there as the customer from hell. When they asked why, I just told them to look twice at the tab. Everbody got a big kick out of it. One waitress would pretend to refuse to serve me.

Eventually, they raised the price of mac'n cheese :-).

Coppertop · 05-28-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by filtherton

I heard that it was being proclaimed an international day of Slayer. My roomate plans to walk around with a boom box bumping slayer all day.

http://www.nationaldayofslayer.org/

Slayer über Alles

MSD · 05-28-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

http://www.nationaldayofslayer.org/

Slayer über Alles

In my opinion, "Raining Blood" was the only contribution to music that Slayer ever made (even then just because it's so well known,) and I have little interest in supporting a bunch of neo-nazis' music because some guys declared a national holiday.

CSflim · 05-28-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

In my opinion, "Raining Blood" was the only contribution to music that Slayer ever made (even then just because it's so well known,) and I have little interest in supporting a bunch of neo-nazis' music because some guys declared a national holiday.

Slayer are Nazis now?

And I think it was called "Reign in Blood" (unless they another one by that name).

Zeraph · 05-28-2006, 01:31 PM

Ah the great day will be of prank calls. Ring ring ring. "Hello?" *deep voice* "This is the devil"

Ample · 05-28-2006, 01:52 PM

How many of you ladies would enduce labor the day before if 6/6/06 was your due date?

JumpinJesus · 05-28-2006, 10:23 PM

I read this article posted by medusa and I got the heebie jeebies. Then I started thinking. I was born on 11/24/1969.

the month of November is represented in the decimal system by the number 11, which also is the symbolic representation of the Twin Towers and was the flight number of the American Airlines flight (alpha-numerically "11") that crashed into it.

Then, I have the number 24, which is also the name of a television show dealing with terrorism and is also the number of hours in a day. It also represents the letter x, which is indicative of anything nameless or what someone who is illiterate uses as a signature.

Next, we have 1969. Anyone paying any attention can see that by inverting the two 9s in my birth year, we end up with 1666, which is the year London burned and also the supposed year that Newton observed an apple falling, thus bringing about the age of reason and the death of God.

The 1 before the 666 is a definite confirmation that 1 is the loneliest number.

Then! If you add up all the digits of my birth date, you get 1+1+2+4+1+9+6+9=33, which is half of 66, which is one digit short of 666, which explains the appearance of the 1 in my birth year.

I think its obvious that I'm the antichrist.

Damn.

Damn again.

Oh, well. The remake of The Omen is still gonna suck.

KungFuGuy · 05-28-2006, 10:43 PM

i was always number 13 in roll call for class. Mostly because of my name in the way things shaped up alphabetically, but i was #13 despite different kids with different names more than my fair share.

The bank that I go to the most is 666 Broadway (commerce bank in NYC).

There was a History Channel special on numerology, and part of it discussed how Christians, back in the days of the catacombs, had to use code when sending messages. This code changed words into numbers somehow. Anyway, using the original code numbers, they found out that satan was assigned the number 616. This was later changed to 666 somehow. (probably because people think it sounds cooler).

I recomend people see the movie pi if they're interested in THE NUMBER that explains everything.

Lucky numbers: 2,13,27

mrklixx · 05-29-2006, 05:20 AM

So.....shouldn't 12/12/12 be twice as evil?

Coppertop · 05-29-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CSflim

Slayer are Nazis now?

And I think it was called "Reign in Blood" (unless they another one by that name).

Raining Blood is a track on the Reign in Blood album.

MSD · 05-29-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CSflim

Slayer are Nazis now?

And I think it was called "Reign in Blood" (unless they another one by that name).

The album was, the track was "Raining Blood."

As for the nazi affiliation, I give you "Angel of Death"

Quote:

Auschwitz, the meaning of pain
The way that I want you to die
Slow death, immense decay
Showers that cleanse you of your life
Forced in
Like cattle you run
Stripped of
Your life's worth
Human mice, for the angel of death
Four hundred thousand more to die
Angel of death
Monarch to the kingdom of the dead
Sadistic, surgeon of demise
Sadist of the noblest blood

Destroying, without mercy
To benefit the Aryan race

Surgery, with no anesthesia
Feel the knife pierce you intensely
Inferior, no use to mankind
Strapped down screaming out to die
Angel of death
Monarch to the kingdom of the dead
Infamous butcher,
Angel of death

Pumped with fluid, inside your brain
Pressure in your skull begins pushing
Through your eyes
Burning flesh, drips away
Test of heat burns your skin,
Your mind starts to boil
Frigid cold, cracks your limbs
How long can you last
In this frozen water burial?
Sewn together, joining heads
Just a matter of time
'Til you rip yourselves apart

Millions laid out in their
Crowded tombs
Sickening ways to achieve
The Holocaust

Seas of blood, bury life
Smell your death as it burns
Deep inside of you
Abacinate, Eyes that bleed
Praying for the end of
Your wide awake nightmare
Wings of pain, reach out for you
His face of death staring down
Your blood's running cold
Injecting cells, dying eyes
Feeding on the screams of
The mutants he's creating

Pathetic harmless victims
Left to die
Rancid angel of death
Flying free

Fire · 05-31-2006, 08:12 PM

I am not so sure that I can find the above song pro nazi- kinda seems the other way around to me- sort of ironic and edgy- has the band any known sympathies or politics?-- Edit- after a search of several web sites, it appears that the song was done for shock value and to blatantly point out the holocausts evils in a shocking and over the top way- this is the stance of the band and it is supported by many critics who point out that most neo nazi's deny the nazi atrocities happened- in short, tasteless, sure, done for shock value and to sell records, certainly/probably, but is slayer a nazi band, I for one do not think so.....note that I am not a fan of slayer, or much serious metal.....so I am far from an expert in the genre....

MSD · 06-01-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

I am not so sure that I can find the above song pro nazi- kinda seems the other way around to me- sort of ironic and edgy- has the band any known sympathies or politics?-- Edit- after a search of several web sites, it appears that the song was done for shock value and to blatantly point out the holocausts evils in a shocking and over the top way- this is the stance of the band and it is supported by many critics who point out that most neo nazi's deny the nazi atrocities happened- in short, tasteless, sure, done for shock value and to sell records, certainly/probably, but is slayer a nazi band, I for one do not think so.....note that I am not a fan of slayer, or much serious metal.....so I am far from an expert in the genre....

Well, I just took it at face value since I've heard comments indicating that in the past. I'll look into it more.

Fremen · 06-01-2006, 01:43 PM

I like to think I'm above all this 666 hoo-ha, but in my secret heart of hearts, it gives me an uneasy feeling when I contemplate it too long.

It's one of the reasons I'm disgusted/intrigued with 20th Century Fox's premiering of the remake of The Omen on 6/6/06 and all the publicity stunts they've pulled to promote it.

an example:

Quote:

A month ago, Fox first launched "The Omen" campaign with airplanes towing "You Have Been Warned" banners above key spring break cities. They definitely didn't go unnoticed — 911 operators and the FBI fielded a flurry of calls from terrified, bikini-clad beachgoers. In Panama City, Fla., a fighter jet was even dispatched to escort one of the planes down.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...dlines-entnews

Val_1 · 06-01-2006, 10:55 PM

One thing I WON'T be doing to celebrate 6/6/6 is see The Omen remake. The original still does it for me. If they put the original in the theater, I'd pay to see it even if I had to go by myself.

I dunno, I might use it as an excuse to get drunk ....

florida0214 · 06-02-2006, 08:20 AM

Nothing at all. Thats what will happen unless some weirdo decideds to take matters into his own hands and do something stupid.

Pip · 06-02-2006, 12:41 PM

We've made the day a holiday in Sweden. Okay, so it's actually our National Day, not "Welcome Antichrist Day" but it's the first time ever it's officially a holiday. Couldn't have happened on a funnier date!

rockogre · 06-02-2006, 01:11 PM

OK, EVERYBODY PANIC!

Oh, and stay away from JumpinJesus till we find out if he becomes dangerous or not.

I'm more worried about what some screaming, slavering, religious fanatic may do than I am about anything else that day.

Gatorade Frost · 06-02-2006, 01:14 PM

It's a little known fact, but every century has a 6/6/06 in it, and in the past, nothing spectacular has occured.

cowudders14 · 06-03-2006, 04:15 AM

I'm a little bit scared about it - not because of the devil or anything, but just because I live just outside the city centre, with several local pubs, and fridays/saturdays usually see a few drunken idiots being stupid. 6/6/6 is just going to encourage them...

I might go out that night just to be away from home, or spend the night in the cinema myself!

MacGuyver · 06-03-2006, 07:56 PM

6/6/06 means nothing. It's not really the devil's number because well, A) it's a date. and B) theres a zero in the middle of it, so for me it looks more like six thousand sixhundred and 6 aka. 6606.

Either way im not going to go see 'the Omen' because it will be MUCH worse than the first time around for 'the Omen'.

paddyjoe · 06-04-2006, 06:00 AM

Looks like at least one town plans on giving itself up to the devil...........

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Hell, Mich., Heats Up for 6-6-6 Party

HELL, Mich. (AP) -- They're planning a hot time in Hell on Tuesday. The day bears the date of 6-6-06, or abbreviated as 666 - a number that carries hellish significance. And there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that the day will go unnoticed in the unincorporated hamlet 60 miles west of Detroit.

Nobody is more fired up than John Colone, the town's self-styled mayor and owner of a souvenir shop.

"I've got `666' T-shirts and mugs. I'm only ordering 666 (of the items) so once they're gone, that's it," said Colone, also known as Odum Plenty. "Everyone who comes will get a letter of authenticity saying you've celebrated June 6, 2006, in Hell."

Most of Colone's wares will sell for $6.66, including deeds to one square inch of Hell.

Live entertainment and a costume contest are planned. The Gates of Hell should be installed at a children's play area in time for the festivities.

"They're 8 feet tall and 5 foot wide and each gate looks like flames, and when they're closed, it's a devil's head," Colone told The Detroit News for a Saturday story.

Mike "Smitty" Hickey, owner of the Dam Site Inn, wasn't sure what kind of clientele would show up Tuesday.

"We're all about having fun here. I don't think we're going to get the cult crowd, the devil worshippers or anything like that," said Hickey, whose bar's signature concoction is the Bloody Devil, a variant of the Bloody Mary.

Colone, meanwhile, has been in touch with radio stations as far away as San Diego and Seattle that are raffling off trips to Hell in honor of 6-6-6.

The 666 revelry is just the latest chapter in the town's storied history of publicity stunts, said Jason LeTeff, one of its 72 year-round residents - or, as the mayor calls them, Hellions or Hell-billies. But LeTeff wasn't particularly enthused.

"Now, here I am living in Hell, taking my kids to church and trying to teach them the right things and the town where we live is having a 6-6-6 party," he said.

According to the town's semiofficial Web site, there are two leading theories about how Hell got its name.

The first holds that a pair of German travelers stepped out of a stagecoach one sunny afternoon in the 1830s, and one said to the other, "So schoene hell" - roughly translated as, "So bright and beautiful." Their comments were overheard by some locals and the name stuck.

The second holds that George Reeves was asked after Michigan gained statehood what he thought the town he helped settle should be called, and reportedly replied, "I don't care, you can name it Hell if you want to." The name became official on Oct. 13, 1841.

Coppertop · 06-04-2006, 07:24 AM

I just realized we're having elections on Tuesday as well. Coincidence?

bobby · 06-04-2006, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rockogre

OK, EVERYBODY PANIC!

Oh, and stay away from JumpinJesus till we find out if he becomes dangerous or not.

I'm more worried about what some screaming, slavering, religious fanatic may do than I am about anything else that day.

...........ready to panic.....how do you do it??

xoxoxoo

blar · 06-04-2006, 07:52 AM

geez i am hearing so much about this date

Asuka{eve} · 06-04-2006, 11:51 AM

for me its just my birthday.

legolas · 06-04-2006, 09:04 PM

it doesn't really scare me just because it's really 6/6/2006. i mean, the 06 is just an abreviation and if you want to just start leaving out numbers to things then i'm certain a lot of people have the devil's credit card and probably phone number too.
i'll probably get scared in the year 2666 if i'm still alive because i am superstitious, but this just isn't doing it for me.

Hanxter · 06-05-2006, 10:18 AM

do you suffer from hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia... ???

if so consult a bartender imediately and start drinking... heavily!!!

STEPHY · 06-06-2006, 04:34 AM

what are your thoughts about the rumors?

JumpinJesus · 06-06-2006, 04:37 AM

Good morning, stephy.

We've already got a thread going about this whole thingamabob.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105058

maleficent · 06-06-2006, 04:44 AM

dammit... the apocalypse didn't happen... crap crap crap crap...

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Grasshopper Green ...is a comical chap Location: Where morons reign supreme	6/6/06 approaches! http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/200605...ithparascience If you're just a bit more cautious on a Friday the 13th, wouldn't fly on 9/11 or could never live in a house numbered 666, you are not alone. ADVERTISEMENT With 06/06/06 looming (June 6, 2006), authorities in some cities are worrying prophecy theorists or hate groups might read something ominous into the date and use it as an excuse to stir tension. Some expectant mothers are making birthing appointments to ensure they avoid the date, according to the Sunday Times in London. And for others, it is a marketing opportunity. 20th Century Fox's remake of "The Omen" and Ann Coulter's book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," will both come out June 6. The Beast The number 666 is used to refer to the beast in the Bible's Book of Revelations: "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666." Among many coincidences that occur with numbers, life itself is based partly on these three: Carbon atoms, key to life as we know it, have six protons, six neutrons, and six electrons in their most common form. That there is concern over the date at all is a reflection of how popular it's become to search for the hidden meanings in numbers, experts say. "People have a tendency to latch onto things, like numbers, that help them make sense of the world," said Mario Livio, an astrophysicist and author of "The Equation That Couldn't Be Solved" (Simon & Schuster, 2005). Troubled times The perceived importance of numbers becomes especially true during troubled times, when finding wisdom in numbers can be a comfort, says professional numerologist Sonia Ducie. "Humanity and individuals are attracted to numbers during times of great transformation," Ducie said. The Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks are an overwhelming example. Conspiracy theorists in the years since the tragedy have tried hard to thread together "eerie" numerological coincidences, especially those tied to the number eleven. A few of the best known: 9 + 1 + 1 = 11 The first plane to hit the World Trade Center was American Airlines Flight 11; AA can also be "translated" as the alphabet's version of 11. The State of New York was the eleventh state added to the union. The names George W. Bush, New York City, Air Force One, Afghanistan and The Pentagon all contain eleven letters. Despite its modern manifestations, searching for deeper meanings in numbers is a practice that goes back to ancient times, Livio said. "Numerology has a long history," he told LiveScience. "You can trace it all the way from the followers of Pythagoras, whose maxim to describe the universe was ‘all is number.'" Thinkers who studied under the famous Greek mathematician combined numbers in different ways to explain everything around them, he said. Para-science Modern numerology has since morphed into a kind of para-science in the same vein as astrology, according to skeptics. Still, many numerologists claim to rely on Pythagoras' ancient system to divine the hidden connections between numbers—often a birth date—and an individual's life. Our attraction to certain numbers has to do with the cycles of birth and death those numbers have seen through many millions of years in existence, said Ducie, who trained at the Connaissance School of Numerology in Hertfordshire, England. "People are subconsciously drawn towards specific numbers because they know that they need the experiences, attributes or lessons, associated with them, that are contained within their potential," she said. "Numerology can ‘make sense' of an individual's life (health, career, relationships, situations and issues) by recognizing which number cycle they are in, and by giving them clarity." Mathematicians are quick to dismiss numerology as having any scientific merit, however. "I don't endorse this at all," said Livio, when asked to comment on the popularity of commercial numerology today. Seemingly coincidental connections between numbers will always appear if you look hard enough, he said. Lucky numbers When it comes to lucky numbers, at least, Ducie agreed."People can also ‘make' numbers lucky simply by believing they will be lucky when they have those numbers around them; these preconditioned thoughts strongly contribute towards their manifestation of luck," she said. The obsession with particular numbers also tend to wax and wane according to the trends of popular culture, Livio noted. Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code" (Doubleday, 2003) has played a part with its showcase of the golden ratio, or divine proportion, which Livio explores in his book "The Golden Ratio" (Broadway, 2003). The very precise number is said to exist mysteriously in various places in nature and be extremely attractive to the human eye. Spin-offs in the worlds of architecture, art and even diet books are a result of the "Code" phenomenon. Ronald Reagan's 666 The supposed number of the devil falls in and out of favor with the public, too. It is unclear just how influential the number was in the centuries after the Bible became widespread as literature, but it was certainly ingrained in popular culture after the 1976 release of the movie "The Omen", in which the neck of a demon-child is stamped with the digits 666. When former President Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy retired to their last home in California thirteen years later, they forced officials to change their address from 666 to 668 St. Cloud Road, Livio said. No word on whether the former president whose full name is Ronald Wilson Reagan, was bothered by the number of letters in each of his first, middle and last names. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hadn't even thought of this date having any sort of meaning. I know a lot of people put stock in date and number significance...but since the date is actually 06/06/06, why the uneasiness? I never pay attention to Friday the 13th, considered a trip in September in which I'd have flown on the 11th, and scheduling an induced birth/caesarian so my child wouldn't be born on this date would never even cross my mind. What do you think? Is this just superstitious silliness, or do dates and numbers really play significant roles in our lives? __________________ "They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings; steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king" Formerly Medusa

05-27-2006, 07:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	It depends on how you believe. I know, I can't get wishy washier than that. But seriously, I believe in the powers of the mind and if you believe hard enough in numerology and never waver from that belief you'll make things happen. Or, you just put numbers together to get the answer you are looking for. It's like the Book of Revelations, it will only come true if enough people wish it to (mass hysteria, pushed forth by Christian relious leaders afraid to lose power so they use fear to control their masses). If people heed the warnings and decide to set forth man's own destiny Revelations will never happen. It's like the guy who smokes 3 packs a day, believes cigarettes aren't going to hurt him and refuses to listen to any warnings about it. This guy never has any smoking related illnesses. Is it because of his genetics or was it because he truly believed cigarettes wouldn't hurt him and he never doubted his beliefs? Or the person who lives well into their 90's and is very healthy, yet ate anything they wanted. You ask and find their belief is they couldn't die yet because their family still needed them. (My grandmother, who is 95, is a great example of this.) I know I rambled but the powers of the mind and beliefs are a very, very, interesting and intriguing subject to me. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 05-27-2006 at 07:18 AM..

05-27-2006, 04:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	i thought the world was supposed to end... damn guess i better pay master card... I can't believe that the Omen has been remade - wasn't it bad enough the first time around? __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

05-27-2006, 10:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
crow_daw Idolator Location: Vol Country	I agree with pan6467. Not only do I agree with the power of the mind (it holds a very strong mystique for me too), but I think that the truth is kinda what you make it. Truth is in the eye of the beholder. I know that I won't lose any sleep over it. __________________ "We each have a star, all we have to do is find it. Once you do, everyone who sees it will be blinded." - Earl Simmons

05-28-2006, 10:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	I read this article posted by medusa and I got the heebie jeebies. Then I started thinking. I was born on 11/24/1969. the month of November is represented in the decimal system by the number 11, which also is the symbolic representation of the Twin Towers and was the flight number of the American Airlines flight (alpha-numerically "11") that crashed into it. Then, I have the number 24, which is also the name of a television show dealing with terrorism and is also the number of hours in a day. It also represents the letter x, which is indicative of anything nameless or what someone who is illiterate uses as a signature. Next, we have 1969. Anyone paying any attention can see that by inverting the two 9s in my birth year, we end up with 1666, which is the year London burned and also the supposed year that Newton observed an apple falling, thus bringing about the age of reason and the death of God. The 1 before the 666 is a definite confirmation that 1 is the loneliest number. Then! If you add up all the digits of my birth date, you get 1+1+2+4+1+9+6+9=33, which is half of 66, which is one digit short of 666, which explains the appearance of the 1 in my birth year. I think its obvious that I'm the antichrist. Damn. Damn again. Oh, well. The remake of The Omen is still gonna suck. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

05-27-2006, 03:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gilda 32 flavors and then some Location: Out on a wire.	We have plans to go to the opening of The Omen on June 6th. Otherwise it means nothing. Gilda

05-27-2006, 04:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
ASU2003 immoral minority Location: Back in Ohio	The anti-christ will be born that day, sealing the fate of the human race. Doesn't everybody know that.

05-27-2006, 04:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	I heard that it was being proclaimed an international day of Slayer. My roomate plans to walk around with a boom box bumping slayer all day.

05-28-2006, 07:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	I'm going to make a joke out of it. Why not? Years ago when I was single, I used to go to this one diner once a week or so and order the same meal -- mac 'n cheese with veg and salad, a coke. With tax, the total came to $6.66. After two or three times I realized what was going on and started representing myself to waitresses there as the customer from hell. When they asked why, I just told them to look twice at the tab. Everbody got a big kick out of it. One waitress would pretend to refuse to serve me. Eventually, they raised the price of mac'n cheese :-).

05-28-2006, 01:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Ah the great day will be of prank calls. Ring ring ring. "Hello?" deep voice "This is the devil"

05-28-2006, 01:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ample Psycho Location: In your closet	How many of you ladies would enduce labor the day before if 6/6/06 was your due date?

05-28-2006, 10:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
KungFuGuy Insane	i was always number 13 in roll call for class. Mostly because of my name in the way things shaped up alphabetically, but i was #13 despite different kids with different names more than my fair share. The bank that I go to the most is 666 Broadway (commerce bank in NYC). There was a History Channel special on numerology, and part of it discussed how Christians, back in the days of the catacombs, had to use code when sending messages. This code changed words into numbers somehow. Anyway, using the original code numbers, they found out that satan was assigned the number 616. This was later changed to 666 somehow. (probably because people think it sounds cooler). I recomend people see the movie pi if they're interested in THE NUMBER that explains everything. Lucky numbers: 2,13,27

05-29-2006, 05:20 AM	#18 (permalink)
mrklixx President Rick Location: location location	So.....shouldn't 12/12/12 be twice as evil? __________________ This post is content. If you don't like it then you are not content. Or perhaps just incontinent. This is not a link - Do not click here I hate animated avatars.

05-31-2006, 08:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	I am not so sure that I can find the above song pro nazi- kinda seems the other way around to me- sort of ironic and edgy- has the band any known sympathies or politics?-- Edit- after a search of several web sites, it appears that the song was done for shock value and to blatantly point out the holocausts evils in a shocking and over the top way- this is the stance of the band and it is supported by many critics who point out that most neo nazi's deny the nazi atrocities happened- in short, tasteless, sure, done for shock value and to sell records, certainly/probably, but is slayer a nazi band, I for one do not think so.....note that I am not a fan of slayer, or much serious metal.....so I am far from an expert in the genre.... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens Last edited by Fire; 05-31-2006 at 08:25 PM..

06-01-2006, 10:55 PM	#24 (permalink)
Val_1 Addict Location: In a State of Denial	One thing I WON'T be doing to celebrate 6/6/6 is see The Omen remake. The original still does it for me. If they put the original in the theater, I'd pay to see it even if I had to go by myself. I dunno, I might use it as an excuse to get drunk .... __________________ I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. -Frank Sinatra

06-02-2006, 08:20 AM	#25 (permalink)
florida0214 Crazy Location: South Florida	Nothing at all. Thats what will happen unless some weirdo decideds to take matters into his own hands and do something stupid. __________________ "Two men: one thinks he can. One thinks he cannot. They are Both Right."

06-02-2006, 12:41 PM	#26 (permalink)
Pip Likes Hats Location: Stockholm, Sweden	We've made the day a holiday in Sweden. Okay, so it's actually our National Day, not "Welcome Antichrist Day" but it's the first time ever it's officially a holiday. Couldn't have happened on a funnier date!

06-02-2006, 01:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
rockogre I aim to misbehave! Location: SW Oklahoma	OK, EVERYBODY PANIC! Oh, and stay away from JumpinJesus till we find out if he becomes dangerous or not. I'm more worried about what some screaming, slavering, religious fanatic may do than I am about anything else that day. __________________ Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

06-02-2006, 01:14 PM	#28 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	It's a little known fact, but every century has a 6/6/06 in it, and in the past, nothing spectacular has occured. __________________ I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well." Emo Philips

06-03-2006, 04:15 AM	#29 (permalink)
cowudders14 Bringer of good Moos... Location: Midlands, UK	I'm a little bit scared about it - not because of the devil or anything, but just because I live just outside the city centre, with several local pubs, and fridays/saturdays usually see a few drunken idiots being stupid. 6/6/6 is just going to encourage them... I might go out that night just to be away from home, or spend the night in the cinema myself! __________________ Moo! I'm mooey!

06-03-2006, 07:56 PM	#30 (permalink)
MacGuyver You're going to have to trust me! Location: Massachusetts	6/6/06 means nothing. It's not really the devil's number because well, A) it's a date. and B) theres a zero in the middle of it, so for me it looks more like six thousand sixhundred and 6 aka. 6606. Either way im not going to go see 'the Omen' because it will be MUCH worse than the first time around for 'the Omen'. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ---Aristotle Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me. ---John Fletcher

06-04-2006, 06:00 AM	#31 (permalink)
paddyjoe through charlatans phone Location: Northcoast	Looks like at least one town plans on giving itself up to the devil........... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT Hell, Mich., Heats Up for 6-6-6 Party HELL, Mich. (AP) -- They're planning a hot time in Hell on Tuesday. The day bears the date of 6-6-06, or abbreviated as 666 - a number that carries hellish significance. And there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that the day will go unnoticed in the unincorporated hamlet 60 miles west of Detroit. Nobody is more fired up than John Colone, the town's self-styled mayor and owner of a souvenir shop. "I've got `666' T-shirts and mugs. I'm only ordering 666 (of the items) so once they're gone, that's it," said Colone, also known as Odum Plenty. "Everyone who comes will get a letter of authenticity saying you've celebrated June 6, 2006, in Hell." Most of Colone's wares will sell for $6.66, including deeds to one square inch of Hell. Live entertainment and a costume contest are planned. The Gates of Hell should be installed at a children's play area in time for the festivities. "They're 8 feet tall and 5 foot wide and each gate looks like flames, and when they're closed, it's a devil's head," Colone told The Detroit News for a Saturday story. Mike "Smitty" Hickey, owner of the Dam Site Inn, wasn't sure what kind of clientele would show up Tuesday. "We're all about having fun here. I don't think we're going to get the cult crowd, the devil worshippers or anything like that," said Hickey, whose bar's signature concoction is the Bloody Devil, a variant of the Bloody Mary. Colone, meanwhile, has been in touch with radio stations as far away as San Diego and Seattle that are raffling off trips to Hell in honor of 6-6-6. The 666 revelry is just the latest chapter in the town's storied history of publicity stunts, said Jason LeTeff, one of its 72 year-round residents - or, as the mayor calls them, Hellions or Hell-billies. But LeTeff wasn't particularly enthused. "Now, here I am living in Hell, taking my kids to church and trying to teach them the right things and the town where we live is having a 6-6-6 party," he said. According to the town's semiofficial Web site, there are two leading theories about how Hell got its name. The first holds that a pair of German travelers stepped out of a stagecoach one sunny afternoon in the 1830s, and one said to the other, "So schoene hell" - roughly translated as, "So bright and beautiful." Their comments were overheard by some locals and the name stuck. The second holds that George Reeves was asked after Michigan gained statehood what he thought the town he helped settle should be called, and reportedly replied, "I don't care, you can name it Hell if you want to." The name became official on Oct. 13, 1841.

06-04-2006, 07:24 AM	#32 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	I just realized we're having elections on Tuesday as well. Coincidence?

06-04-2006, 07:52 AM	#34 (permalink)
blar Insane	geez i am hearing so much about this date

06-04-2006, 11:51 AM	#35 (permalink)
Asuka{eve} Addict Location: Oh God, the rain!	for me its just my birthday.

06-04-2006, 09:04 PM	#36 (permalink)
legolas shit faced cockmaster Location: CT	it doesn't really scare me just because it's really 6/6/2006. i mean, the 06 is just an abreviation and if you want to just start leaving out numbers to things then i'm certain a lot of people have the devil's credit card and probably phone number too. i'll probably get scared in the year 2666 if i'm still alive because i am superstitious, but this just isn't doing it for me. __________________ "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

06-05-2006, 10:18 AM	#37 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	do you suffer from hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia... ??? if so consult a bartender imediately and start drinking... *heavily!!!*

06-06-2006, 04:34 AM	#38 (permalink)
STEPHY Upright Location: FLORIDA, USA	666???? what are your thoughts about the rumors?

06-06-2006, 04:37 AM	#39 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	Good morning, stephy. We've already got a thread going about this whole thingamabob. http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105058 __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

06-06-2006, 04:44 AM	#40 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	dammit... the apocalypse didn't happen... crap crap crap crap... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.