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Mondak · 06-04-2003, 01:20 PM

Ok before any jumps to any conclusions here - this is NOT a thread about my Stripper College.

I was just looking at a couple posts on the ol' Titty Board. One of my favorites - Sandy (Blonde, does a lot of work as a lesbian / dyke) was in two different posts I was looking at. They were each over 100 pictures long and she ate a lot of pussy. One was a Suze Randall post and the other one was a Karupps PC post. Both were stamped with 2000 on them. I started to think about the fact that 2000 was a busy year for her. Then I started to think about how much money these broads make.

I really don't know.

On one hand you have plain old stripping. If you are super hot and you are working in Vegas, I know you can make over $1000 per night. We will leave out the real skanks here and rat hole strip joints. If you are hot though and an average neighborhood strip joint, I would think that you can make (cash) $300 - 500 per night. I dunno - discuss this below as well, but stick with me here. $300 cash working 4 nights a week for 50 weeks is roughly equivalent to making $100,000 before taxes.

Not too bad for a young girl with (maybe) no brain. Obviously when we are talking between $300 and $1500 cash you can see these gals are making good money. Most of the time you have lap dances and stuff and guys grope you, but really there is not too many strip joints for hot women that have any exchange of bodily fluids. So overall there is a limit to how hard you have to work for your money.

Now back to our girl Sandy. How much does she (or any other of the gals on the TFP) make? I mean every Sandy post she either eats pussy or sucks a dick (and gets semen squirted on her). She is not one of those fakers either. She really eats the shit. A set of 150 good shots probably takes 500 -1000 photos to amass. Also, you are likely there for a good long while. Posing and doing all that crap. Even so, I usually don't consider the gals on the TFP porn stars as such. They are not USUALLY in movies (I know there is plenty of crossover here but stick with me).

You figure Sandy the stripper has a choice. She can strip at her local strip joint, make good money and even hold down another "real" job for after her tits sag. As long as she can keep her preverbal nose clean, she can come out of this thing pretty well and really outside of her local area, no one ever has to know she was a stripper. She can marry well and have kids and the whole thing. Now I know that not too many get the fairy tale to come true, but it is out there.

The other choice (or addition to the aforementioned vocation) is to pose in these shots. I would think that while doing the shots and getting known on the internet would help your stripper career a little, I don't know how many folks in the real world know who these gals are. I mean really - we only know the "names" of a few of these chics. The downside as I mentioned is that lots of people will know you and maybe there is more stigma associated with it. You are more afraid that folks will recognize you.

With that in mind, what is one of these shoots worth to a gal? I don't feel like $1000 for one of these things is really worth it for the girl, but for some of the lower quality gals, I can't see them commanding even that. Doing 15 shoots a year at $1000 is only adding $15k to that $100k - $150k lifestyle. (And hell who knows if you have to pay taxes on that).

The final thought is that I consume a good deal of smut and yet other than the forthcoming donation to the TFP, I have never paid for it. It is supposed to be a $7 Billion dollar industry according to Forbes. I get it all essentially for free and I already have more than I can ever use. I don't know too many people who have paid for it and I definitely do not know anyone who devotes any kind of ongoing money to it. Where the money comes from to pay these gals is beyond me.

The question is what do the gals of the TFP (and the rest of the internet make? What range do you think we are working with here?

zf0enix · 06-04-2003, 01:47 PM

I wonder if Halx can give some input based on his other "job". The quotes are because it's hard to call looking at nekkid women (in person or on the monitor) all day a j-o-b.

It's only because I'm envious!!

Mondak · 06-04-2003, 02:15 PM

I was kind of hoping he would grace us with a response, but I figured that someone else would have some input as well.

krwlz · 06-04-2003, 03:59 PM

Well if your estimates are anywhere near accurate...Thats insane that a girl can exploint men for that much money!!! It's ridiculous that we give up that much money!

BBtB · 06-04-2003, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by krwlz
Well if your estimates are anywhere near accurate...Thats insane that a girl can exploint men for that much money!!! It's ridiculous that we give up that much money!

From everything I have heard those estimates are actully a little on the moderate side.

Mondak · 06-04-2003, 04:23 PM

BBtB - that is what I heard as well. Of course it all depends on how much of a piece of ass you are. The thing is that a crapload of 18 - 21 Y/O girls look great to us perverts....

You reasonably thin and young. In most cases that is enough. You are only a decent boob job away from the big bucks. (although as anyone who visits my posts knows that I can skip the boob job in most cases)

majik_6 · 06-04-2003, 04:33 PM

I don't know what kinda money is average in this business, but I have heard some figures thrown around for larger stars (unbelievably large amounts).

The best bet is to go to a search engine, and look for adult webmaster resources. Those are usually totally professional websites (not black and hot pink with flashing letters) that offer honest, upfront news and analysis on the adult website industry, including financial issues.

Mondak · 06-04-2003, 07:09 PM

you know I am not so curious about what the Porn Stars from the Movies make. I am just talking about the run of the mill hot chic that we see on the pages of the Titty Board. I am sure Jenna Jameson makes millions. What I want to know is like what that Skinny Blonde who takes it up the ass makes.

charlesesl · 06-04-2003, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Forks
well, 20/20 had a porn special. it featured the life of Bella Donna. a major porn star like Bella would make like 20 grand for a starring feature. the rookies or first time girls would make 1000 bucks for a straight sex scene, or 2000 for an anal scene. a little bit more for lesbian/interracial. gangbangs paid like 5000 bucks (im talking like 5 dudes, not 100). these girls get into porn and they want more and more money, so naturally they start doing more and more outrageous acts. most girls quit after just a few scenes or they specialize in one type of scene. the lesbian chicks usually do that because their boyfriends would freak if they humped 4 guys with a DP.

i have a question
How come lesbian/interracial/and anal get paid more than straight
I can understand gangbang. but ist lesbian easier than straight?

BBtB · 06-04-2003, 10:09 PM

I understand anal... and maybe even lesbian... but why interracial?

Halx · 06-04-2003, 10:19 PM

Girls in LA make about $100/hr for basic single girl. The rate increases by quite a lot for the more explicit stuff. Some photographers will pay much more and some wont pay at all (it's considered an honor to even work with them)
Go to places like Romania and you can pay $40/day and get free blowjobs.

In other words, I have no idea what the girls make, even with my inside view of the industry.

juanvaldes · 06-04-2003, 10:54 PM

The hottest of the hot can make instance bank, for 18-21 year olds. After that though, you have to be VERY hot and be popular to stay visable in the biz.

eyeronic · 06-04-2003, 11:11 PM

You mean those girls are getting paid for those pictures. I thought they just got off on it and did it for fun.

XenuHubbard · 06-05-2003, 12:12 AM

The most successful strippers are the ones who slowly lures clueless guys who comes in that they actually like them. They get a couple of admirers, who comes back a couple of times in a week.
This usually brings in a lot of cash, depending on the customer of course. The infatuation makes it easy to get some extra tips, such as giving a small peck on the cheek and look around nervously, saying that management could fire them for it.

This approach is very lucrative, but when the guys figure out they've been played, it could turn nasty, stalking and such.

In the end, the strip club people work in doesn't matter too much, as long as the girl is talented enough to find a regular customer with a lot of cash in his pocket.

KillerYoda · 06-05-2003, 12:20 AM

Here's a brilliant stripper related story of me and some friends of mine:

We were at this club, and the girl on stage was one of the more popular dancers, so everyone was standing by the stage with their singles in hand. I was probably the eighth guy in line, and two of my friends were in front of me. Apparently, the my friend Ruben, who was the one right next to me, realized he was out of singles and was holding a ten in his hand. So when the stripper comes to him, she does her little dance, boobs in the face and whatnot, then kneels down for him to put the money in her g-string. He does not put in money and instead asks in all seriousness, "Do you have change for a ten?"

I've never seen anyone look more angry, she stood back up and just walked to the other side of the stage to dance for the other people there.

Cynthetiq · 06-05-2003, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillerYoda
Here's a brilliant stripper related story of me and some friends of mine:

We were at this club, and the girl on stage was one of the more popular dancers, so everyone was standing by the stage with their singles in hand. I was probably the eighth guy in line, and two of my friends were in front of me. Apparently, the my friend Ruben, who was the one right next to me, realized he was out of singles and was holding a ten in his hand. So when the stripper comes to him, she does her little dance, boobs in the face and whatnot, then kneels down for him to put the money in her g-string. He does not put in money and instead asks in all seriousness, "Do you have change for a ten?"

I've never seen anyone look more angry, she stood back up and just walked to the other side of the stage to dance for the other people there.

I've seen some girls even break out their wad lick their fingers and hand out the change....

denim · 06-05-2003, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillerYoda
I've never seen anyone look more angry, she stood back up and just walked to the other side of the stage to dance for the other people there.

"High-five" time, fer shur.

zf0enix · 06-05-2003, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eyeronic
You mean those girls are getting paid for those pictures. I thought they just got off on it and did it for fun.

Shhhhh, don't spoil the fantasy!

asdf1001 · 06-05-2003, 09:42 AM

I know there's been times that I've been in strip bars and dropped as much as 200-300 bucks, myself ... a friend of a friend of my has been known to drop as much as 10 grand in one night ... when he walks in the door he immediately gives the bouncers $100 each and goes from there .... to say the least, most of the other customers dont like him!!!

madsenj37 · 06-05-2003, 10:57 AM

I just wanted to say that stripping is probably a more steady than porn, and that porn actresses use clubs to get exposure.

denim · 06-05-2003, 11:51 AM

I thought porn actresses used exposure to get exposure. Not so?

madsenj37 · 06-05-2003, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by denim
I thought porn actresses used exposure to get exposure. Not so?

No publicity is bad publicity. Sorry if I made it sound like they only use stripping for publicity or that publicity only comes from stripping. Making more movies works, too, as well as, conventions and personal appearances.

bigdsack · 06-05-2003, 05:30 PM

I have a friend, she is 23 and a stripper outside of Atlanta in a couple of gentlemans clubs (totally nude). She works three 8 hours shifts a week. Her best week yet was right before Christmas 2002. She grossed $9,200! However, on average, she makes about $4,000 a week. Believe it or not, she makes a whole lot of her money selling shooters (test tubes filled with liquor) for $10 a piece, and she gets to keep $9 of it! Most men buy one for them self and one for her. And she has NEVER, EVER had sex with a customer, in or out of the club!

krwlz · 06-05-2003, 05:32 PM

Again, I will say that I am shocked that us guys get suckered that incredibly badly....

Tom Thumb · 06-05-2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillerYoda
Here's a brilliant stripper related story of me and some friends of mine:

We were at this club, and the girl on stage was one of the more popular dancers, so everyone was standing by the stage with their singles in hand. I was probably the eighth guy in line, and two of my friends were in front of me. Apparently, the my friend Ruben, who was the one right next to me, realized he was out of singles and was holding a ten in his hand. So when the stripper comes to him, she does her little dance, boobs in the face and whatnot, then kneels down for him to put the money in her g-string. He does not put in money and instead asks in all seriousness, "Do you have change for a ten?"

I've never seen anyone look more angry, she stood back up and just walked to the other side of the stage to dance for the other people there.

Class, KY, class.

Just to answer charlesesl's question about why lesbian scenes pay more than straight, since I don't think anyone else did, most porn stars are gonna be straight and be less inclined to do lesbian scenes. So the ones that will do them get paid more.

I guess this teaches me that drunk, horny people will spend like idiots. Oh, wait, I already knew that.

ratbastid · 06-06-2003, 08:09 AM

Here's a URL that is full of good, first-person information and advice about the stripping buiness. WARNING: This site WILL destroy the fantasy for you!

http://www.stripper-faq.org

Cynthetiq · 06-06-2003, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ratbastid
Here's a URL that is full of good, first-person information and advice about the stripping buiness. WARNING: This site WILL destroy the fantasy for you!

http://www.stripper-faq.org

now that sheds some light on some of the dark corners of the champagne/vip room.

Bob Biter · 06-06-2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ratbastid
Here's a URL that is full of good, first-person information and advice about the stripping buiness. WARNING: This site WILL destroy the fantasy for you!

http://www.stripper-faq.org

That's an excellent site by one of my favorite Asian perfomers, Kiko Wu. Thanks for this, man!

suviko · 06-06-2003, 11:57 PM

That story about stripper giving change can be true, but it is also an urban legend.

If you are really intrested in how the industry works, buy a book from the Amazon! Here's a few chosen pieces of fine literature that might intrest you:

1-2-3 Be a Porn Star! A Step-By-Step Guide to the Adult Sex Industry by Ana Loria (Paperback)

Coming Attractions: The Making of an X-Rated Video by Robert J. Stoller, I. S. Levine (Contributor) (Hardcover)

Raw Talent: The Adult Film Industry As Seen by Its Most Popular Male Star by Jerry Butler, et al (Hardcover)

How to Become a Porn Director: Making Amateur Adult Films by Nick Ryder (Paperback)

Adult Video Business: How You Can Find Attractive Women to Star in Your Own Adult Films, Make Money, and Quit Work in 7 Weeks by Ray West (Paperback)

Sorry, just had to.. :P

Dorkums642 · 06-07-2003, 01:02 AM

Danzine is a great organization in the Portland, OR area that caters to women in the sex industry. I've met a couple of the women that run it and they are just regular women who use their bodies as their trade. They are smart (lots of college women strip to pay for tuition/books) and all of them look just like normal people. I think (most) strippers are a different breed than the women that do photo shoots. Strippers have a level of anonimity since no one is taking their picture to be immortalized on the 'net. Also, strippers have some contact with their customers, whereas the photo girls will probably never see their many admirers (Swan.....).

The nice thing about Danzine is that they help women in the biz and let each other know where the good places are to strip. One of the women I spoke with said she only strips for a total of 2 months or so out of the year. She travels all over the US going to various strip clubs and earns a decent living.

Danzine

06-04-2003, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Stripper Economics 101 Ok before any jumps to any conclusions here - this is NOT a thread about my Stripper College. I was just looking at a couple posts on the ol' Titty Board. One of my favorites - Sandy (Blonde, does a lot of work as a lesbian / dyke) was in two different posts I was looking at. They were each over 100 pictures long and she ate a lot of pussy. One was a Suze Randall post and the other one was a Karupps PC post. Both were stamped with 2000 on them. I started to think about the fact that 2000 was a busy year for her. Then I started to think about how much money these broads make. I really don't know. On one hand you have plain old stripping. If you are super hot and you are working in Vegas, I know you can make over $1000 per night. We will leave out the real skanks here and rat hole strip joints. If you are hot though and an average neighborhood strip joint, I would think that you can make (cash) $300 - 500 per night. I dunno - discuss this below as well, but stick with me here. $300 cash working 4 nights a week for 50 weeks is roughly equivalent to making $100,000 before taxes. Not too bad for a young girl with (maybe) no brain. Obviously when we are talking between $300 and $1500 cash you can see these gals are making good money. Most of the time you have lap dances and stuff and guys grope you, but really there is not too many strip joints for hot women that have any exchange of bodily fluids. So overall there is a limit to how hard you have to work for your money. Now back to our girl Sandy. How much does she (or any other of the gals on the TFP) make? I mean every Sandy post she either eats pussy or sucks a dick (and gets semen squirted on her). She is not one of those fakers either. She really eats the shit. A set of 150 good shots probably takes 500 -1000 photos to amass. Also, you are likely there for a good long while. Posing and doing all that crap. Even so, I usually don't consider the gals on the TFP porn stars as such. They are not USUALLY in movies (I know there is plenty of crossover here but stick with me). You figure Sandy the stripper has a choice. She can strip at her local strip joint, make good money and even hold down another "real" job for after her tits sag. As long as she can keep her preverbal nose clean, she can come out of this thing pretty well and really outside of her local area, no one ever has to know she was a stripper. She can marry well and have kids and the whole thing. Now I know that not too many get the fairy tale to come true, but it is out there. The other choice (or addition to the aforementioned vocation) is to pose in these shots. I would think that while doing the shots and getting known on the internet would help your stripper career a little, I don't know how many folks in the real world know who these gals are. I mean really - we only know the "names" of a few of these chics. The downside as I mentioned is that lots of people will know you and maybe there is more stigma associated with it. You are more afraid that folks will recognize you. With that in mind, what is one of these shoots worth to a gal? I don't feel like $1000 for one of these things is really worth it for the girl, but for some of the lower quality gals, I can't see them commanding even that. Doing 15 shoots a year at $1000 is only adding $15k to that $100k - $150k lifestyle. (And hell who knows if you have to pay taxes on that). The final thought is that I consume a good deal of smut and yet other than the forthcoming donation to the TFP, I have never paid for it. It is supposed to be a $7 Billion dollar industry according to Forbes. I get it all essentially for free and I already have more than I can ever use. I don't know too many people who have paid for it and I definitely do not know anyone who devotes any kind of ongoing money to it. Where the money comes from to pay these gals is beyond me. The question is what do the gals of the TFP (and the rest of the internet make? What range do you think we are working with here?

06-04-2003, 01:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
zf0enix Psycho Location: PacNW	I wonder if Halx can give some input based on his other "job". The quotes are because it's hard to call looking at nekkid women (in person or on the monitor) all day a j-o-b. It's only because I'm envious!! __________________ One step closer to the edge...

06-04-2003, 02:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	I was kind of hoping he would grace us with a response, but I figured that someone else would have some input as well. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

06-04-2003, 04:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	BBtB - that is what I heard as well. Of course it all depends on how much of a piece of ass you are. The thing is that a crapload of 18 - 21 Y/O girls look great to us perverts.... You reasonably thin and young. In most cases that is enough. You are only a decent boob job away from the big bucks. (although as anyone who visits my posts knows that I can skip the boob job in most cases) __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

06-04-2003, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
majik_6 narcissist Location: looking in a mirror	I don't know what kinda money is average in this business, but I have heard some figures thrown around for larger stars (unbelievably large amounts). The best bet is to go to a search engine, and look for adult webmaster resources. Those are usually totally professional websites (not black and hot pink with flashing letters) that offer honest, upfront news and analysis on the adult website industry, including financial issues. __________________ it's all about self-indulgence

06-04-2003, 03:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
krwlz Fledgling Dead Head Location: Clarkson U.	Well if your estimates are anywhere near accurate...Thats insane that a girl can exploint men for that much money!!! It's ridiculous that we give up that much money!

06-04-2003, 07:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	you know I am not so curious about what the Porn Stars from the Movies make. I am just talking about the run of the mill hot chic that we see on the pages of the Titty Board. I am sure Jenna Jameson makes millions. What I want to know is like what that Skinny Blonde who takes it up the ass makes. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

06-04-2003, 10:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
BBtB ClerkMan! Location: Tulsa, Ok.	I understand anal... and maybe even lesbian... but why interracial? __________________ Meridae'n once played "death" at a game of chess that lasted for over two years. He finally beat death in a best 34 out of 67 match. At that time he could ask for any one thing and he could wish for the hope of all mankind... he looked death right in the eye and said ... "I would like about three fiddy"

06-04-2003, 10:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Girls in LA make about $100/hr for basic single girl. The rate increases by quite a lot for the more explicit stuff. Some photographers will pay much more and some wont pay at all (it's considered an honor to even work with them) Go to places like Romania and you can pay $40/day and get free blowjobs. In other words, I have no idea what the girls make, even with my inside view of the industry. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

06-04-2003, 10:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	The hottest of the hot can make instance bank, for 18-21 year olds. After that though, you have to be VERY hot and be popular to stay visable in the biz.

06-04-2003, 11:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
eyeronic I run E. Location: New York	You mean those girls are getting paid for those pictures. I thought they just got off on it and did it for fun. __________________ I hold with those that favor fire.

06-05-2003, 12:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	The most successful strippers are the ones who slowly lures clueless guys who comes in that they actually like them. They get a couple of admirers, who comes back a couple of times in a week. This usually brings in a lot of cash, depending on the customer of course. The infatuation makes it easy to get some extra tips, such as giving a small peck on the cheek and look around nervously, saying that management could fire them for it. This approach is very lucrative, but when the guys figure out they've been played, it could turn nasty, stalking and such. In the end, the strip club people work in doesn't matter too much, as long as the girl is talented enough to find a regular customer with a lot of cash in his pocket. __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

06-05-2003, 12:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
KillerYoda The Original Emo Gangsta Location: Sixth Floor, Texas School Book Depository	Here's a brilliant stripper related story of me and some friends of mine: We were at this club, and the girl on stage was one of the more popular dancers, so everyone was standing by the stage with their singles in hand. I was probably the eighth guy in line, and two of my friends were in front of me. Apparently, the my friend Ruben, who was the one right next to me, realized he was out of singles and was holding a ten in his hand. So when the stripper comes to him, she does her little dance, boobs in the face and whatnot, then kneels down for him to put the money in her g-string. He does not put in money and instead asks in all seriousness, "Do you have change for a ten?" I've never seen anyone look more angry, she stood back up and just walked to the other side of the stage to dance for the other people there. __________________ "So you're Chekov, huh? Well, this here's McCoy. Find a Spock, we got us an away team."

06-05-2003, 09:42 AM	#19 (permalink)
asdf1001 itty bitty titty committee chairman	I know there's been times that I've been in strip bars and dropped as much as 200-300 bucks, myself ... a friend of a friend of my has been known to drop as much as 10 grand in one night ... when he walks in the door he immediately gives the bouncers $100 each and goes from there .... to say the least, most of the other customers dont like him!!! __________________ Goodbye!

06-05-2003, 10:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
madsenj37 Still searching... Location: NorCal For Life	I just wanted to say that stripping is probably a more steady than porn, and that porn actresses use clubs to get exposure. __________________ "Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

06-05-2003, 11:51 AM	#21 (permalink)
denim Banned Location: Massachusetts, USA	I thought porn actresses used exposure to get exposure. Not so?

06-05-2003, 05:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
bigdsack Upright	I have a friend, she is 23 and a stripper outside of Atlanta in a couple of gentlemans clubs (totally nude). She works three 8 hours shifts a week. Her best week yet was right before Christmas 2002. She grossed $9,200! However, on average, she makes about $4,000 a week. Believe it or not, she makes a whole lot of her money selling shooters (test tubes filled with liquor) for $10 a piece, and she gets to keep $9 of it! Most men buy one for them self and one for her. And she has NEVER, EVER had sex with a customer, in or out of the club!

06-05-2003, 05:32 PM	#24 (permalink)
krwlz Fledgling Dead Head Location: Clarkson U.	Again, I will say that I am shocked that us guys get suckered that incredibly badly....

06-06-2003, 08:09 AM	#26 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	Here's a URL that is full of good, first-person information and advice about the stripping buiness. WARNING: This site WILL destroy the fantasy for you! http://www.stripper-faq.org

06-06-2003, 11:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
suviko Banned	That story about stripper giving change can be true, but it is also an urban legend. If you are really intrested in how the industry works, buy a book from the Amazon! Here's a few chosen pieces of fine literature that might intrest you: 1-2-3 Be a Porn Star! A Step-By-Step Guide to the Adult Sex Industry by Ana Loria (Paperback) Coming Attractions: The Making of an X-Rated Video by Robert J. Stoller, I. S. Levine (Contributor) (Hardcover) Raw Talent: The Adult Film Industry As Seen by Its Most Popular Male Star by Jerry Butler, et al (Hardcover) How to Become a Porn Director: Making Amateur Adult Films by Nick Ryder (Paperback) Adult Video Business: How You Can Find Attractive Women to Star in Your Own Adult Films, Make Money, and Quit Work in 7 Weeks by Ray West (Paperback) Sorry, just had to.. :P

06-07-2003, 01:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
Dorkums642 Junkie Location: Twilight Alehouse	Danzine is a great organization in the Portland, OR area that caters to women in the sex industry. I've met a couple of the women that run it and they are just regular women who use their bodies as their trade. They are smart (lots of college women strip to pay for tuition/books) and all of them look just like normal people. I think (most) strippers are a different breed than the women that do photo shoots. Strippers have a level of anonimity since no one is taking their picture to be immortalized on the 'net. Also, strippers have some contact with their customers, whereas the photo girls will probably never see their many admirers (Swan.....). The nice thing about Danzine is that they help women in the biz and let each other know where the good places are to strip. One of the women I spoke with said she only strips for a total of 2 months or so out of the year. She travels all over the US going to various strip clubs and earns a decent living. Danzine __________________ I've never come across this in real life, but then I went to a small liberal arts college so that probably didn't help.