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Naked Wizard Taser Brawl At Coachella (VIDEO NSFW)

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Charlatan

Man those cops are fat. What's the big deal if someone is naked at a rock festival. Have these cops never heard of Woodstock?

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Reese

WTF, That cop kneed him in the ribs. They probably broke something.

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robot_parade

Woah.

When the nice officers tell you to put your wizard robes back on, it's probably a good idea to comply.

I'm not sure how I feel about this - for better or worse, public nudity is illegal in most venues, and the guy was clearly asking for some trouble.

fresnelly

I hope this video is used in Police Academies all across the nation as an example of how NOT to subdue a perp.

How hard is it for three big cops to subdue a flabby stoner? Are these guys completely incompetent?

I wonder how many ribs he cracked when the one cop knee dropped him.

It just goes to show how far Hollywood depictions of A) fights, and B) Cops, are from reality.

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FuglyStick

Did we have a discussion very recently about the sissification of America?

I'm not gonna defend police brutality, but there are ramifications for being a jackass. Giving unearned praise and over-protecting are only a part of the "coddling culture;" the other part is deflecting the responsibility for fuck ups.

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fresnelly

Sure. You wrestle him to the ground, cuff his hands and maybe legs behind his back and then drag him to the cruiser. You see it on COPS all the time.

Why couldn't these meatheads pull that off?

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Baraka_Guru

Maybe they always send the flunkies to police events such as those....

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Poppinjay

I like the woman who shakes his hand and gives a not so subtle glance at his schmeckle.

Which, speaking of, if I had an acorn like that, I wouldn't be showing it in public.

I don't blame the cops, they more than gave him his chance. Nobody wants to wrestle with a naked man.

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Charlatan

The real question for me is why bother. It's not like he's hurting anyone. Left alone, I am sure he would have just kept muttering about how beautiful it all is...

Maybe they were worried about his spellcasting abilities. Though given the size of his staff I doubt he'd be able to cast magic missile. -3 for saving throws against tazers.

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Lucifer

Is it just me or have police turned into huge pussies since tazers were invented? 3 burly cops can't subdue 1 high naked guy? They seem to take any excuse to whip out the laser gun and fry somebody with it, before cuffing him. The 1 cop actually was pressing the contact gun right into this guy. WTF? A few weeks ago, 4 cops in BC tazed an 87 year old man in a hospital bed before taking away the knife and fork he was armed (!) with.

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Cynosure

Yeah, she was awesome.

Well, I learned one thing from this video: cops put on rubber gloves when they're about to manhandle a naked person.

FuglyStick

The deal is, if this video was three cops taking this dude down, holding him down, wrestling his arms behind his back and slapping cuffs on him, without a taser, people would still be up in arms--"WTF, it took three of them to get him restrained?"

There are genuine circumstances to be outraged at law enforcement--

Police corruption? check
Planting evidence? check
Killing someone by pursuing a high speed chase through a residential neighborhood? check

Being roughed up a bit while tripping balls and acting like a jackass, then ignoring numerous requests to amend your behavior, is not going to make the list.

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Poppinjay

They do that for pretty much everybody, what with the epidemic of STDs among the drug addict set.

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Cynosure

Hey, did you check out the link on that HuffPost page that led to the following... ? It does involve public nakedness, though no cops with tasers were involved in this case...

Richard Branson And A Naked Denni Parkinson (NSFW PHOTOS)

See? When you're a billionaire, it's okay for you to cavort around with a naked supermodel, even when you're married! While youre wife and children are watching, no less.

FuglyStick

Maybe wizards should do their frolicking on private islands, too.

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Zeraph

Cops were fine, they acted just as they should with who they have to deal with. If its your job, every day, to police delinquents and vagabonds you don't take chances. Tazers are the safest way to deal with combative, resisting people. And that guy was resisting. For all they know he has STDs and is a biter.

The only two problems I saw with this video are 1) those dumbass spoiled kids thinking they were catching the LEOs doing something wrong and 2) the laws that make public nudity such a big deal.

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Ignorance. Have you ever tried to "subdue" someone that was genuinely resisting? LEOs are not kung fu masters in case you haven't heard.

ObieX

Ok i think you need to re-watch this video Zeraph. Firstly there were three officers there. One officer had his right arm and one officer had his left arm. At that point its a simple matter of bringing his hands behind his back and cuffing them. Instead they were twisting his wrists painfully for no real reason and then proceeded to force him onto the ground, grab him by the hair and push him into the dirt. Again, at this point, they could have simply cuffed him. Instead they proceed to (for some reason) flip him over onto his back AND KNEE DROP HIM IN THE RIBS. *That* is the point where he starts to "resist" by standing up and is then immediately hit with the tazer. After that its pretty much him getting this shit beat/tazed out of him.

Sure, he was getting a little handsy, but the officers had plenty of opportunity to take care of this with little to no violence.

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fresnelly

Well said. Obviously if force is needed then so be it. For all we know the Wizard was rubbing his tiny penis in some innocent girl's face just before the recording; but the LEOs in this situation were dangerously sloppy and probably need remedial training.

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World's King

All I know is if that big fat cop did that to me I would be dead.



But that would involve me putting on a wizard outfit.

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Cynosure

...And then taking it off.

Tully Mars

The problem with that is if it's against the law and your job is to enforce the law you're not really given the choice which laws to enforce and which not to enforce. Plus you have a guy that obviously whacked out of his mind on something or possibly mentally ill. If you pass this by and his behavior, which is unstable, takes a turn to the violent side to could go from strange to really bad... really quickly. Lets say he decides to use his "staff" on some 12 yr. old kid. Then you're going to have a bunch video on the news at 5 and a shit load of people being interviewed saying stuff like "his guy was talking all crazy, I mean he took off his clothes right in front of the cops! They knew this was illegal and they just kept walking, they could have stopped this and they didn't. Yeah, if I were that family I sue the crap out them cops and this city!

Sometimes there is no "win" for the guys in uniform.

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Done this before have you?

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Without knowing what happened before the tape rolls I don't see how you can know what was and wasn't sloppy. It's not easy to be in a situation where there's a large crowd of people and an unstable person acting erratically. I listened (as best I could) to and watched the tape a few times, there's several people in the crowd that would have at least part of my attention. Plus, who's running the camera?

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vanblah

Yes they are given a choice. It's called discretion. Cops do it all the time.

Again, we don't know what was going on before the video. They may have been watching the guy for a while. They may have even approached him before this incident. We just don't know. The cops did have a duty to control the situation; they could not have just let it go. If he'd been sober and coherent they probably WOULD have let the nudity slide (as long as the event is 18+) regardless of the nudity laws. It was his mental state along with the nudity that got the cops involved.

I do think the knee drop was excessive. It's the sign of an aggressive cop ... the kind of cop who became a cop just so he can "fuck with people." I'm sure it's because the cop was jealous that the wizard-dude had a larger penis.

I'm not sure how I feel about tasers. They wouldn't have had to use the taser in this case if they'd have just handcuffed him instead of causing him pain. Pain causes people to act as if they are resisting when in fact all they are doing is reacting to pain. Most cops I know are aware of that. The pain and the fact that the guy was rolling (I'm assuming ecstasy) made him more difficult to deal with.

The cops started out right ... just asking him to put on the robe ... but after two or three request they should have just carted him away. No pain involved. It's the way things used to be done.

EDIT: Coachella is all ages. The cops had to get the guy to put his clothes back on or remove him.

Tully Mars

I know exactly how I feel about tazers... don't like them one bit. Got tazed in training one time. Cop pulls out a tazer and I'll be the first one yelling "don't taz me bro!"

As for the pain and his guys reaction- we used to call those "compliance holds." usually when when you apply a hold that causes pain for the person involved they comply, hence the term. The fact this guy didn't comply tells me there's something happening in his brain where he's not getting the full effects of the hold. Could be "X" as you say or could be something else. He could just be mentally ill. Once he doesn't respond to verbal and then physical measures the last step is something mechanical. My guess is their training and SOP is to break out the tazer at that point.

As for the knee drop... kind of hard to defend that. I'm certain he could have caused serious injury by his action. Since it's all on tape wonder if it will be reviewed?

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Reese

This was excessive force and it was preventable. The guy deserves to spend the night in jail, not a night in the hospital with broken ribs. I can fucking take down someone single handed easier than these 3 cops. They had his hands behind his back and they didn't cuff him. They had him on the ground and they didn't cuff him. They kneed him on the chest violently and let him get back up before hitting him with the taser multiple times. How ironic that the cop was the one saying to calm down at the end.

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Tully Mars

I watched it yet again and yes it does seem like they could have cuffed him much sooner. You may have a very valid point. But again without the entire thing on tape or better yet being there it's hard to judge too harshly from my view point.

As far as being able to take down someone easier then these three cops did I try not to think in those terms. Sometimes you're doing everything you can and the person just won't comply or won't go down. Sometimes your agency regs stop you from doing what seems like the most logical move. Though I doubt the knee to the ribs is in their SOP. So?

But again, yes I think you make some valid points. I certainly think this should be reviewed, could be used for training. Kind of a what to and not to do if nothing else.

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Bear Cub

If they hadn't used a tazer and had forced him into cuffs, half of you would probably be bitching about "police brutality." The "knee drop" is also being blown out of proportion. It sure didn't look that hard to me, and with him getting back up and still resisting, well, if any of you have broken ribs before, you'd know that he probably didn't.

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timalkin

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Craven Morehead

Was the knee drop necessary? It served no purpose. Other than possibly inflict some pain. I don't disagree that after warning this loser to get dressed, force was required. I can't see what that particular display of force was going to accomplish.

Willravel

Timalkin was staring at the naked wizard's cock. Let's all point and laugh.

ASU2003

1. There is too much security at these major events. It's ok, if they keep it to perimeter security and what not, but I don't want to live in a police state.

2. This sounds like a repeat of the "Don't tase me bro" event. Tasers are ok when used in situations where the suspect is going to cause harm to themselves or others, not as an easy way out for cops who can't handcuff a guy.

3. Why do these websites use all these different video players that I don't want? Not that I really wanted to see this video anyway.

spindles

I chuckled at this

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Aladdin Sane

Indeed, the whole world is watching.
The naked guy was a jerk.
Cops did their job.
End of story.

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