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Originally Posted by Charlatan
The real question for me is why bother. It's not like he's hurting anyone. Left alone, I am sure he would have just kept muttering about how beautiful it all is...
Maybe they were worried about his spellcasting abilities. Though given the size of his staff I doubt he'd be able to cast magic missile. -3 for saving throws against tazers.
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The problem with that is if it's against the law and your job is to enforce the law you're not really given the choice which laws to enforce and which not to enforce. Plus you have a guy that obviously whacked out of his mind on something or possibly mentally ill. If you pass this by and his behavior, which is unstable, takes a turn to the violent side to could go from strange to really bad... really quickly. Lets say he decides to use his "staff" on some 12 yr. old kid. Then you're going to have a bunch video on the news at 5 and a shit load of people being interviewed saying stuff like "his guy was talking all crazy, I mean he took off his clothes right in front of the cops! They knew this was illegal and they just kept walking, they could have stopped this and they didn't. Yeah, if I were that family I sue the crap out them cops and this city!
Sometimes there is no "win" for the guys in uniform.
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Originally Posted by ObieX
Ok i think you need to re-watch this video Zeraph. Firstly there were three officers there. One officer had his right arm and one officer had his left arm. At that point its a simple matter of bringing his hands behind his back and cuffing them. Instead they were twisting his wrists painfully for no real reason and then proceeded to force him onto the ground, grab him by the hair and push him into the dirt. Again, at this point, they could have simply cuffed him. Instead they proceed to (for some reason) flip him over onto his back AND KNEE DROP HIM IN THE RIBS. *That* is the point where he starts to "resist" by standing up and is then immediately hit with the tazer. After that its pretty much him getting this shit beat/tazed out of him.
Sure, he was getting a little handsy, but the officers had plenty of opportunity to take care of this with little to no violence.
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Done this before have you?
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Originally Posted by fresnelly
Well said. Obviously if force is needed then so be it. For all we know the Wizard was rubbing his tiny penis in some innocent girl's face just before the recording; but the LEOs in this situation were dangerously sloppy and probably need remedial training.
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Without knowing what happened before the tape rolls I don't see how you can know what was and wasn't sloppy. It's not easy to be in a situation where there's a large crowd of people and an unstable person acting erratically. I listened (as best I could) to and watched the tape a few times, there's several people in the crowd that would have at least part of my attention. Plus, who's running the camera?