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Originally posted by timalkin
I can't believe that this is even an issue up for discussion.
The police officer was conducting an official investigation. He was trying to determine who he was dealing with by obtaining I.D. from the male subject. The subject absolutely refused to cooperate. That is obstruction of justice or something similiar.
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No, the police do not have the right to detain or order you to do anything at all, unless they are arresting you. Its like talking to another citizen; you can refuse anything they ask of you. IANAL, but I dont think his refusing to show ID is any kind of obstruction of justice, he was fully willing to be arrested. Since the cop was investigating a possible crime that the man was implicated in, I'm sure he had all the authority he needed to arrest him. But until hes arrested, its within his rights to refuse anything the cop asks. The cop looked like he was trying to be nice by offering the man a chance to avoid an arrest. He should have just put him in cuffs the first time the man said "arrest me" and he would have made life easier on himself. The cop wasnt being very articulate or clear as to why he was asking for ID, but I think he would have gotten farther trying to talk to a doorknob, than with that Dudley idiot. BIG MEN.. REAL BIG MEN.. BIG MEN.. intelligence just RADIATES from that guy.....
And the girl.. what kind of idiot jumps out like she did and charges the police car? As if shes going to rescue her dad from the police. She did that to herself.
The cop could have handled the situation differently, and, yes, refusing the requests of a police officer is within your rights...but cmon people.. Mimi and her dad have to be two of the stupidest people on the planet.
Reading through this thread though, I am amazed at all the people who think that you just have to bow down and lick a cops boots if they tell ya to.