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Old 02-25-2004, 05:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
MovieNut
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Quote:
Originally posted by water_boy1999
......if the guy simply respected the cops wishes by providing the proper ID, or, calmly told the officer that he could not produce an ID, this would not have happened.

Moral of this story: Don't be a dick! Respect authority. They are here to "protect and serve".
When I watched the video, the cop asked Hiibel if he had ID, and Hiibel responded "no". Here's a quote of the transcript found here:
  • D: You've got any identification on you?
    H: No, ------------ why should I have an ID? Why do you want me to...
Hiibel told the Deputy he did not have ID. The resulting conversation was bordering on harassment by the deputy. Said deputy continued to ask a question, 11 times, which had already been answered. 11 times. Answered the first time. That's beyond rude. That's abusive and harassing. Don't tell me the deputy was being polite and professional. He was being way more a dick than Hiibel. Hiibel was facing a dickhead cop. That's somewhere between intimidating and frightening.

Upon being informed that Hiibel didn't have ID, he sh/could have asked name and address & tried to verify. Done same with 17-year-old driver. Should have checked whether the (17 y/o) driver was carrying a driver's license. Then after confirming ID's, the deputy should have checked with the 17-year old as to the situation, whether there was any abuse, etc. Police procedure may vary by locale, common sense is the same.

But this whole, cuffing the old man, and then two officers wrestling the girl to the ground and cuffing her was excessive force. These guys need something between suspension w/out pay pending an investigation, and to find another line of work.

When Hiibel was in the back of the car going "big man..." over and over, man, if you don't feel the same way, or empathize as a father, go find some cheap flight to some current facist nation-state.

Oh wait, apparently that's Nevada.

Cops have way, way too much power. And too many abuse that power. It's a well-known stereotype.

The feds seize assets and never return them. They torch compounds where families live.
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