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Old 01-27-2004, 10:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wow, i go see a movie and come back and there's a thread bearing my name. Not only that, but someone has already made my point better than i ever could. Nanofever is my hero.

I agree, christians have played a vital role in that christianity has been the religion of the majority for a long time. But i might also point out that democracy is at its very nature the exact opposite of the church. There is no democracy in religion. The pope doesn't wait for a quorum, much less a consesus. Religions historically have sought a monopoly on the power over and dreams of their subjects. How is that anything like america? The ten commandments claim to be the laws of god him/herself- unchangable and as just as the universe itself. Well, here in america we believe that the law should be made by the people, and that it should be alterable in case we make a mistake.
So now you may say to yourself, "Why shouldn't we post the ten commandments on public property?" Well from one perspective it's public property and the ten commandments ARE religious. Foundation of law-whatever, lots of americans are christian-whatever. However you try to present the ten commandments you are never going to be able to say "These commandments have absolutely nothing to do with any specific religion and are in no way endorsing said religion" and still be an honest, rational person. I know a lot of christians pretend to be history buffs just trying to spread the good word about the foundations of law when it comes to the ten commandments. That's fine. Just tell me why, if it is simply a matter of history, must the ten commandments be posted on public property? Why wouldn't a museum do? No! If only we might have one statue erected on public property that might halt the intoxicated masses from forgeting that this is a mostly christian country.

The same goes with "in god we trust". How can you try to claim that little phrase isn't religious? By virtue of the fact that not all religions have just one god, or even a god at all, it endorses all single god based spirituality at the expense of many other completely valid religions.

Freedom from religion has more to do with america being what it is than christianity ever could. Christianity could be any other religion as far as the constitution is concerned. In bizarro world we could be on here debating whether the eightfold path should be posted on public property(although that seems like the kind of thing that a monk probably wouldn't be too concerned with) and america could be exactly the same aside from the majority religion.
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