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salsa2 · 01-05-2004, 04:10 PM

Pete is taking the steps that he believes will get him reinstated. Finally admitting what the rest of the free world knew is the first step. Selig is behind him on this. Bud already knew that Pete bet on the game, despite Pete's denials.
The scary part is that Pete wants to manage again. That is what this is really all about. He needs MONEY and thinks the best and easiest way is to manage the Reds again.
I think that people really need to think this though. Baseball has very strict rules on gambling for a reason. They are very clearly stated and there is a history of what happens when you break this rule. Joe Jackson is still banned and not in the Hall. Mays and Mantle were suspended from the game for having an association with a casino , AFTER they retired. Pete admits to betting on the Reds while the manager. Even if you can say that he didnt bet against his team, it can still be argued that he was making descions based on whether he had a wager or not. What message was sent to the book makers when he didnt bet on the Reds? If he wanted to place a wager on tomorrows game, it could affect the way he managed the game the night before. Sending different guys to the plate to get pitchers into the game so they couldnt pitch the next night, or not be as effective. Not bringing his closer into the game one night to keep him fresh for the next game. Senting his rotation so his #1 starter would never face another teams #1(in other words conceeding a loss to save his ace for a forth or fifth starter).
The ways that he could effect the game just by betting for the Reds a few games a week is endless.
Also, just by having such a close association with the bookmakers lends itself to trouble. Pete gets a little behind and tells them"Dont worry about the Reds tonight, my pitching staff is a little tired", then leaving his starter in a little too long. etc. etc.
Baseball needs to send a message. Even the man with the most hits all time broke the rules and will pay for the crime. How powerful is that.
I could right another 10 pages on this, but I dont think anyone cares. I keep hearing," Put him in the Hall, whats the big deal" etc. and its a shame.
A real commissoner would never even consider letting him back in.

01-05-2004, 04:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
salsa2 Tilted Location: New Jersey	Pete is taking the steps that he believes will get him reinstated. Finally admitting what the rest of the free world knew is the first step. Selig is behind him on this. Bud already knew that Pete bet on the game, despite Pete's denials. The scary part is that Pete wants to manage again. That is what this is really all about. He needs MONEY and thinks the best and easiest way is to manage the Reds again. I think that people really need to think this though. Baseball has very strict rules on gambling for a reason. They are very clearly stated and there is a history of what happens when you break this rule. Joe Jackson is still banned and not in the Hall. Mays and Mantle were suspended from the game for having an association with a casino , AFTER they retired. Pete admits to betting on the Reds while the manager. Even if you can say that he didnt bet against his team, it can still be argued that he was making descions based on whether he had a wager or not. What message was sent to the book makers when he didnt bet on the Reds? If he wanted to place a wager on tomorrows game, it could affect the way he managed the game the night before. Sending different guys to the plate to get pitchers into the game so they couldnt pitch the next night, or not be as effective. Not bringing his closer into the game one night to keep him fresh for the next game. Senting his rotation so his #1 starter would never face another teams #1(in other words conceeding a loss to save his ace for a forth or fifth starter). The ways that he could effect the game just by betting for the Reds a few games a week is endless. Also, just by having such a close association with the bookmakers lends itself to trouble. Pete gets a little behind and tells them"Dont worry about the Reds tonight, my pitching staff is a little tired", then leaving his starter in a little too long. etc. etc. Baseball needs to send a message. Even the man with the most hits all time broke the rules and will pay for the crime. How powerful is that. I could right another 10 pages on this, but I dont think anyone cares. I keep hearing," Put him in the Hall, whats the big deal" etc. and its a shame. A real commissoner would never even consider letting him back in.