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Originally posted by billege
I object to men being held to standards women are not. I have seen men (as a whole) ridiculed in the LL. Men are obviously not allowed to rebut such things in the LL, as women would in the main forums.
I do not like stereotypes on anyone. It's unfortunate that men are supposed to accept thier labels, as applied by media, and society.
Men are ignorant caregivers, incompetent cooks, perpetually lost, and are bumbling dads on a thousand sit-coms. Even worse, men are not really allowed to reject their stereotypes.
Last year I posted a rant on one of many commercials such depicting dad as unable to feed his kids, or clean a kitchen, becuase mom was at a JC penny's sale. Many responses told me to get over it becuase everyone has stereotypes, and I should just move on. That's a very defeatest attitude. I was suprised at the consensus that it's perfectly okay to insult men.
I don't like to see women practicing those same attitudes toward men in a repercussion free enviornment. I've seen men get made fun of for thier stereotypes in the LL. I object to that.
I'd also like to note that it's certainly possible I'm showing some of my insecurities. Perhaps I am seeing something that's not really happening in the LL. I am open to that.
*after looking*
I've looked through the LL in this version, which I've not done in SOME time. I did not find the attitude I'm even talking about.
Open mouth, insert foot.
Now I'm off to be a neandrethal.
If we <i>really</i> wanted to we could discuss the idea that the very idea of the LL is sexist.
Phred used the word "concede," which someone already commented on.
It could also be said that we're assuming the ladies can't handle those meathead comments that could be thrown around.
Which further assumes that on the general forums, meathead comments, and a negative enviornment are tolerated. To my knowledge, they are not.
To be honest, I think we're admitting that the mods can't be everywhere. I think we're also admitting that with as many members as we have, who are predominantly male, there will be plenty of problems.
To whit:
The ladies are perfectly capable of handling themselves, but as a membership we've chosen to remove the need for them to be on guard, and simply enjoy discussing whatever they want.
In a male dominated place like the net, it's a sound idea.
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billege, I've seen your posts around and I really appreciate how you're not afraid to voice your opinion when you disagree. I don't always agree with you, but I think it's brave. Just thought you should know.
I wonder how the members of the Ladies' Lounge feel about it? If it ever comes down to making a decision about keeping or cutting the LL, why not ask them?