I've had opportunity to place close to 30,000 rounds of nine mil through an mp-5.
It was of the telescoping stock variety, although we trained exclusively with stock extended. The weapon is tethered across the body where as when necked into your shoulder, tension is established throughout the webbing providing a sturdy shooters relief on the entire platform. It is a joy to shoot. Ours were equipped with powerful halogen bulbed spotlights embedded under the barrel, and activated by a pair of squeeze switches under your front hand.
Very pleasing ergonomically, even though our variety came in a rh config only, and I am a lh shooter. Consistently with this weapon, I could (we all could) pick off dimes* across a fifteen foot room while moving, and doing so to the tune of about 15 in 10-15 seconds. We rarely used the weapon in full auto mode, except for final defensive fire demonstrations.
The weapon is somewhat controllable at full auto, but so much is lost in efficiency and accuracy that it is almost never employed. 30 round mag gone in seconds. I honestly don't have much full auto experience aside from this weapon, so I have little to compare. We often used subsonic ammunition, which remained effective in the CQ (10-15 feet) environment. While the charge exploded, no sonic boom was delivered, making the sounds less likely to be distinguished as gun fire, or fuck up everyone's equilibrium inside the hull of a ship.
We experienced infrequent jamming issues with subsonic ammo, but it usually boiled down to a dirty weapon. One man in the team also carried a silenced mp-5sd. This exclusively fired the subsonic round and was routinely plagued with fouling issues. It was quiet though. We gave this guy the shotgun too.
Pinning for those days at sea.
-bear
*OK, quarter sized is more realistic, but come on...a distinguished marksmen can boast a little bit.
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I didn’t really mention my over all impression on H&K in general. As far as I am concerned, H&K maintains the top position on my list of companies specializing in every aspect of ballistics, machining, engineering, metallurgy, and firearms. Ruger is number two. The weapons we were provided by H&K were prototypes for a new t&e weapon to be deployed through out the Marine Corps. H&K’s engineers and gunsmiths were frequently on site, evaluating and tweaking their products to best suit our needs. Never seen anything like it. They have been making weapons of the finest quality, for a long time. Many, many innovations have come from the gunsmith’s of Heckler& Koch (delayed blow back, squeeze cocker, long range sniper rigs). If I’m not mistaken, several calibers have even emerged as a result of H&K’s doing. I could be wrong on this but one of you cats around here knows. Every H&K weapon I have operated was unmatched in quality, workmanship, and effectiveness. They are very expensive with out question. Since full auto/tactical assault weapons really aren’t in my bag of tricks these days, 10-15k seems silly. Although if 10-15k ever became but a drop in the bucket, an mp-5 or even a pdw (which is a really neat even smaller, full auto capable, machine pistol. Suited protection agents like them very much because of their concealability) might very well be a welcome addition to the arsenal.
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