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Sun Tzu · 11-14-2003, 12:31 AM

I think it might be a possibility that Arafat is the only international “symbol” the Palestinians see the world viewing as their right to an existence in the international community. It can be said that he doesn’t allow for democratic processes to allow others in for leadership (this can be debated). It can also be said he has embezzled millions to live a lavish lifestyle in the crumbling remains of what used to be his place of general operations. This is all accomplished by keeping the entire Palestinian populous under his thumb with his security forces; if there’s any left. Is he corrupt? No more than any other politician I see these days. Of course that doesn’t help any, but I don’t see any strong opposition. It seems from history a “people” will only tolerate so much corruption before they retaliate against their forced governmental oppressors. From what I see, the Palestinians cheer for him and honor him as their leader. I don’t see any stones being thrown in his broken direction. I do see the next generation of Palestinian politicians becoming irritated and tired with Arafat or at least the political American view of him as well as seeing it hinder their cause.

When the founding fathers signed the Declaration of Independence there was a large number that were against slavery. However they understood the fact the war against KG would be lost without the support of the slave owners and it was a fight that would have to take place further down the road.

In comparison it’s the only thing I can think of why Arafat hasn’t been forced out. An internal civil war is the last thing they need. As far as his own issues why he hasn’t stepped down—that may be his own shortcoming of pride, lust for power (?), or something else. Greed for money? Where and how? As I said before, unless something has changed or I’m interpreting what I see wrong he has been not only confined to Israel, but to the ruins of his compound. Does he have jacuzzis in there, wild parties, only the best food privately shipped in from all over the world?

If the money is being spent on something else such warfare, perhaps that’s why those around him haven’t clamped down. Reasons for the “whys and why nots” of that are an entirely different discussion, and have been here multiple times. IMO if this situation isn’t corrected it has the potential of becoming something future generations will be going to war over.

11-14-2003, 12:31 AM	#23 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	I think it might be a possibility that Arafat is the only international “symbol” the Palestinians see the world viewing as their right to an existence in the international community. It can be said that he doesn’t allow for democratic processes to allow others in for leadership (this can be debated). It can also be said he has embezzled millions to live a lavish lifestyle in the crumbling remains of what used to be his place of general operations. This is all accomplished by keeping the entire Palestinian populous under his thumb with his security forces; if there’s any left. Is he corrupt? No more than any other politician I see these days. Of course that doesn’t help any, but I don’t see any strong opposition. It seems from history a “people” will only tolerate so much corruption before they retaliate against their forced governmental oppressors. From what I see, the Palestinians cheer for him and honor him as their leader. I don’t see any stones being thrown in his broken direction. I do see the next generation of Palestinian politicians becoming irritated and tired with Arafat or at least the political American view of him as well as seeing it hinder their cause. When the founding fathers signed the Declaration of Independence there was a large number that were against slavery. However they understood the fact the war against KG would be lost without the support of the slave owners and it was a fight that would have to take place further down the road. In comparison it’s the only thing I can think of why Arafat hasn’t been forced out. An internal civil war is the last thing they need. As far as his own issues why he hasn’t stepped down—that may be his own shortcoming of pride, lust for power (?), or something else. Greed for money? Where and how? As I said before, unless something has changed or I’m interpreting what I see wrong he has been not only confined to Israel, but to the ruins of his compound. Does he have jacuzzis in there, wild parties, only the best food privately shipped in from all over the world? If the money is being spent on something else such warfare, perhaps that’s why those around him haven’t clamped down. Reasons for the “whys and why nots” of that are an entirely different discussion, and have been here multiple times. IMO if this situation isn’t corrected it has the potential of becoming something future generations will be going to war over. __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking* Last edited by Sun Tzu; 11-14-2003 at 03:01 PM..