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Soggybagel · 11-12-2003, 08:55 PM

Are you shitting me? You are insulting them due to the "Junk" factor of them. Perhaps they were never in a system that worked for them, and in that case never fully developed into a cohesive team. Its not just the Trap that allowed the Wild to make it to the Western Conference Finals last year.

I think you are complaining a tad bit about them losing too! I agree though that fundamentally hockey needs to get going some and open it up some more. I don't think the trap has to leave though. Maybe I'm old fashioned (or just dumb) but I think hockey is just as entertaining now as far as I can remember, which mind you isn't that long. The game has changed though. I don't think Gaborik is really ruining his potential by being on MN. For example, last year he netted 30 goals. This is by no means a lot but he slumped at the bookend of the year, and it was not a result of the trap. Had he kept up with early pace from the beginning 1/3 he could have easily ended with 50-65 goals.

You know why people don't get 200 points anymore? You mentioned a couple and really the goalies are a huge reason! They are bigger, faster, stronger, and better coached. THis is a huge reason why points are down. Also all players are a lot bigger and tougher too. Its harder to just skate into the offensive zone. I think a reason that is overlooked is the clutch/grab style of D that is around now. Fundamentally some things have to change but I don't think the trap is the problem.

One last thing. They do wait for other teams to make a mistake but I disagree with the idea that they will sit back on their ass and wait around. The Wild can have just as high scoring games as any other team in the league...and as you said with "junk" players, so they don't have the benefit of an allstar team like Colorado who should really be lighting everyone up.

11-12-2003, 08:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Soggybagel Psycho Location: Lovely City #1	Are you shitting me? You are insulting them due to the "Junk" factor of them. Perhaps they were never in a system that worked for them, and in that case never fully developed into a cohesive team. Its not just the Trap that allowed the Wild to make it to the Western Conference Finals last year. I think you are complaining a tad bit about them losing too! I agree though that fundamentally hockey needs to get going some and open it up some more. I don't think the trap has to leave though. Maybe I'm old fashioned (or just dumb) but I think hockey is just as entertaining now as far as I can remember, which mind you isn't that long. The game has changed though. I don't think Gaborik is really ruining his potential by being on MN. For example, last year he netted 30 goals. This is by no means a lot but he slumped at the bookend of the year, and it was not a result of the trap. Had he kept up with early pace from the beginning 1/3 he could have easily ended with 50-65 goals. You know why people don't get 200 points anymore? You mentioned a couple and really the goalies are a huge reason! They are bigger, faster, stronger, and better coached. THis is a huge reason why points are down. Also all players are a lot bigger and tougher too. Its harder to just skate into the offensive zone. I think a reason that is overlooked is the clutch/grab style of D that is around now. Fundamentally some things have to change but I don't think the trap is the problem. One last thing. They do wait for other teams to make a mistake but I disagree with the idea that they will sit back on their ass and wait around. The Wild can have just as high scoring games as any other team in the league...and as you said with "junk" players, so they don't have the benefit of an allstar team like Colorado who should really be lighting everyone up. Last edited by Soggybagel; 11-12-2003 at 09:02 PM..