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I wasn't throwing my hands up in the air, nor was I masturbating with them. I firmly believe that the "game" has become more important than the result. I believe that politicians no longer strive to do what is right for the people they govern, their only concern is that their side wins the next "match". They con us into the debate like it means something, when in reality they're just selling us their product. Debates no longer lead to enlightenment.
I agree that many times these threads are nothing more than baseless arguments, but that doesn't mean I'm giving up. I am stating my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. I'm truly sorry you do not agree with it.
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