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Old 09-25-2003, 01:53 PM   #23 (permalink)
geep
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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Fascism:
-A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
-A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
-Oppressive, dictatorial control

Might be associated with extreme conservatism, but doesn't mean that it can't apply to people like Hillary.
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Originally posted by MuadDib
Liberal:
-Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
-Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
-Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
-Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

I'm not really seeing where these two definitions might be mutually exclusive, perhaps someone can advise me otherwise

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Originally posted by MuadDib

Can't really be free of authoritarian attitude and free from bigotry and still meet your fascist criteria. Nor can you be open to reform and progress and support such rule. Liberalism doesn't exactly equate to socioeconomic control either.
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Left or Right

authoritarian: of, relating to, or favoring a concentration of power in a leader or an elite not constitutionally responsible to the people

Again, Left or Right

If you believe that people on the left don't promote socioeconomic control, you haven't looked at your paycheck or seen the lineup at the bank on the 1st day of the month.

Yes, Hillary could very easily be considered a fascist, don't get hung up political jargon.
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