Thanks for the compliments. The third pic seems to be the most popular with everyone. I find the reactions to #4 interesting, because it is just that strong response with the dark foreground that I was going for. It is sort of a paradox to me -- high contrast on an overcast day. The sun was slanting in under the clouds and the light had this really creepy, but beautiful effect. P.J. you are welcome to come for a visit anytime.