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Sleepyjack · 08-04-2003, 04:33 AM

basically, selling out would apply to various marketing straterigies and such, which waxeater suggested. When demographics, marketing, business etc infuluence and change a band, as amean to make more money for themselves, then that is probably selling out.

Although selling out is quite a frivilous term, and is ponted out and explored in tool's song hooker with a penis.

Hooker with a Penis

I met a boy wearing Vans, 501s, and a
Dope Beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was OGT,
From '92,
The first EP.

And in between
Sips of Coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin' out,
Layin' down,
Suckin' up
To the man.

Well now I've got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
I'm the man,

And if I'm the man,

Then you're the man, and
He's the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

So I've got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
I'm the man,

If I'm the fuckin' man
Then you're the fuckin' man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...Shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

i think it suggests that we have all sold out to an extent, is that such a bad thing?
it depends on the degree and extent to which we do it.

As also stated from Mr HIcks, i also do really dislike marketing, although not so much that they should kill themselves, i just dislike it. A few of my friends do marketing, and they're nice people.

Listen to music on its own merits, not for what others say and think about it.
Although, perhaps when perception matters more than what is real or true to yourself, then you have probably sold out.

Its also a bit of a paradox when people go on the anti-brand/marketing and form a brand or image in their own right, which is ironic i guess. Like its cool to be against everything popular or marketable, and thats the reason in which you are against popular things, because they "sold out", get over yourself.

08-04-2003, 04:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	basically, selling out would apply to various marketing straterigies and such, which waxeater suggested. When demographics, marketing, business etc infuluence and change a band, as amean to make more money for themselves, then that is probably selling out. Although selling out is quite a frivilous term, and is ponted out and explored in tool's song hooker with a penis. Hooker with a Penis I met a boy wearing Vans, 501s, and a Dope Beastie t, nipple rings, and New tattoos that claimed that he Was OGT, From '92, The first EP. And in between Sips of Coke He told me that He thought We were sellin' out, Layin' down, Suckin' up To the man. Well now I've got some A-dvice for you, little buddy. Before you point the finger You should know that I'm the man, And if I'm the man, Then you're the man, and He's the man as well so you can Point that fuckin' finger up your ass. All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one. So I've got some Advice for you, little buddy. Before you point your finger You should know that I'm the man, If I'm the fuckin' man Then you're the fuckin' man as well So you can Point that fuckin' finger up your ass. All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one. All you read and Wear or see and Hear on TV Is a product Begging for your Fatass dirty Dollar So...Shut up and Buy my new record Send more money Fuck you, buddy. i think it suggests that we have all sold out to an extent, is that such a bad thing? it depends on the degree and extent to which we do it. As also stated from Mr HIcks, i also do really dislike marketing, although not so much that they should kill themselves, i just dislike it. A few of my friends do marketing, and they're nice people. Listen to music on its own merits, not for what others say and think about it. Although, perhaps when perception matters more than what is real or true to yourself, then you have probably sold out. Its also a bit of a paradox when people go on the anti-brand/marketing and form a brand or image in their own right, which is ironic i guess. Like its cool to be against everything popular or marketable, and thats the reason in which you are against popular things, because they "sold out", get over yourself.