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Donkeypuncher · 07-17-2003, 02:56 PM

more thoughts on the subject:

Confidence, without arrogance is a turn on to most women. Don't whine. Learn to dance and/or cook. Laugh out loud. Have your own opinions and be willing to state them, whether or not the lady at the table agrees with it. Don't try to survive on "lines," most women will see right through that and you've lost before you ever got started. Definitely don't change your approach to suit the input you're getting from her... be consistent. Be you. Believe it or not, this is showing her far more respect than just trying to morph into whatever you think she wants.

If you're going to strike out, then go for it. Big. Being exactly who you are. And if you strike out, don't hold it against her just because she didn't dig your vibe -- it didn't work out, move on. No harm, no foul and at least you took the shot at the buzzer. There is nothing more annoying than insecure and/or inept guys blaming the women that they go after for their own mistakes. Grow some balls and get into the game, or nurse your drink and stay satisfied with what you have on the sidelines and in your chat rooms.

You hear so much about "nice guys finish last" and that just isn't true. Insecure guys finish last. Too many guys who are "nice guys" figure that they have to change who they are to get someone, or keep a portion of themselves hidden away before getting to know someone. That never works or, rather, never works well. No one likes an emotional and conversational wind-sock.

Dating, by nature, involves a bit of risk... emotional as well as a bit of physical in today's climate. Women won't just go out with any old guy out of pity if they don't have some inkling that they want to be with him. Or, the ones that will do that have some issues you don't want near you anyway. It's an investment of time and effort, and why waste it on some insecure guy who doesn't make the leap? Might as well go for the long haired guy from England (with apologies to Too Much Joy), at least he's in the game. Too many guys only play half court in the dating game, and are constantly complaining about others who are making the full court press. You can't do it in halves, you can't just dip your toes in the dating pool. If you're in, JUMP in. Have a good time, and if you're still not getting what you were looking for, you might want to take a look at what you're putting out there, as well as the women you keep approaching. You might try a change of scene, a change of venue, or you might want to stop trying to make small talk when all she really wants is for you to shut up and dance...

07-17-2003, 02:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
Donkeypuncher Psycho Location: Pasadena, CA	more thoughts on the subject: Confidence, without arrogance is a turn on to most women. Don't whine. Learn to dance and/or cook. Laugh out loud. Have your own opinions and be willing to state them, whether or not the lady at the table agrees with it. Don't try to survive on "lines," most women will see right through that and you've lost before you ever got started. Definitely don't change your approach to suit the input you're getting from her... be consistent. Be you. Believe it or not, this is showing her far more respect than just trying to morph into whatever you think she wants. If you're going to strike out, then go for it. Big. Being exactly who you are. And if you strike out, don't hold it against her just because she didn't dig your vibe -- it didn't work out, move on. No harm, no foul and at least you took the shot at the buzzer. There is nothing more annoying than insecure and/or inept guys blaming the women that they go after for their own mistakes. Grow some balls and get into the game, or nurse your drink and stay satisfied with what you have on the sidelines and in your chat rooms. You hear so much about "nice guys finish last" and that just isn't true. Insecure guys finish last. Too many guys who are "nice guys" figure that they have to change who they are to get someone, or keep a portion of themselves hidden away before getting to know someone. That never works or, rather, never works well. No one likes an emotional and conversational wind-sock. Dating, by nature, involves a bit of risk... emotional as well as a bit of physical in today's climate. Women won't just go out with any old guy out of pity if they don't have some inkling that they want to be with him. Or, the ones that will do that have some issues you don't want near you anyway. It's an investment of time and effort, and why waste it on some insecure guy who doesn't make the leap? Might as well go for the long haired guy from England (with apologies to Too Much Joy), at least he's in the game. Too many guys only play half court in the dating game, and are constantly complaining about others who are making the full court press. You can't do it in halves, you can't just dip your toes in the dating pool. If you're in, JUMP in. Have a good time, and if you're still not getting what you were looking for, you might want to take a look at what you're putting out there, as well as the women you keep approaching. You might try a change of scene, a change of venue, or you might want to stop trying to make small talk when all she really wants is for you to shut up and dance... __________________ "take me down, little Susie, take me down I know you think you're the Queen of The Underground"