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Old 07-13-2003, 09:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
Stiltzkin
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Originally posted by rogue49
Be more than the sum of your parts.
With all due respect, I don't think this is possible. To quote someone who's name I never knew:

"One plus one is never three, not even for extremely large values of one." - Someone

Although I do appreciate the spirit of your message.

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Originally posted by lafemmefatale
from my comprehension of your description of ubermensche, it sounds almost reflective of buddhist theology...but then i dont really understand either all that well ...anyway from what i gather it's a matter of giving up the social conformity and let go of instinctive desires and whatnot and displace all efforts into...i suppose as your friend did, in achievment of some sort...

personally i think this is very well possible...for certan people. ie. geniuses...we're talking real geniuses who live their lives through their work. like einstein, or stephen hawkings, or eccentric writers like virginia woolf...it's a generalization but something they all have in commn is not only hard work which everyone should have...or do...but a predisposition to be that way...to be talented and be geniuses...i know no matter how hard i work i cant be that smart...so in a sense maybe its a genetic thing? What i am saying is those uberppl, well they do and can exist, but not by just forgetting everything you are and then work super hard...but also already possess a certain tendency towards it. Something between the lines of genetics and destiny.


My mother who is a scholar once told me this story and since i only remember the plot not the ppl it must sound very untrustworthy, nonetheless, there was a writer...a very reknowned writer who as a little boy was brought up by his father to be a genius...he was more or less sheltered from society...and grew up writing profound pieces of work...by the time he was thirty or so...he commited suicide.

As uncivilised as it seems, there's a reason the society is fixated on sex and other seemingly boorish things and impractical things, ie. emotions. So instead of declaring the world as a bunch of philistines, make a compromise between the two. My guess is perhaps you are a student [i am.]? or young nonetheless, and the young can displace emotions like its nothing as thats the time of their lives when they get things done and such and such...but as humans get older...there is a change in priorities...and emotions become very important even if it wasnt before...after all i consider it to be a defining characteristic of the human experience.

So if i had the choice of being a uberfdasdfasf...i wouldnt take it, i love loving and hating and being lazy and mean and all the flaws and virtues that define me too much to give it up. What good can come out of being a ubermensche? even if you acheive something great...theres no such thing as joy or pride for the person. which is rather boring...
Compelling response. The part about the geniuses... well, I am no genius, that is for certain. I've been trying to displace my need for gratification into a need to read. Been reading and sleeping, only because it is the summer. When school starts, I hope to be overwhelmed with things-not-related-to-girls-and-sex. If this doesn't work out as planned, because it will be my freshman year and freshmen usually start out slow, then I'll put extra reading loads on myself. I acknowledge all the things you guys have said about emotions being part of the human experience, and I could not agree more, but frankly, I'm tired of being held back by my emotions. They cause me unnecessary pain 24/7, and the worst part is that I have a heap load of friends who're constantly getting into relationships and breaking up and almost making it seem like they intentionally cause eachother heartache, and they've become used to me being the only one who "isn't suffering". They turn to me for their problems, and I have to supress my own sufferings and remain silent whilst I listen to them babble, and try to give them advice afterwards. This is a very complex issue for me, but I think ridding myself of my need for emotional/sexual satisfaction would be the best thing I can do right now. If you have to respond to this, please don't be hasty. Try to consider that I've thought long and hard about this decision. Unless you are me, or someone who's had an almost duplicate experience, you cannot possibly understand why I would want to do what I want to do. If you don't fall under that criteria, then I would thank you deeply to think out your response before posting it.
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