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Old 07-12-2003, 06:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
Stiltzkin
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The Übermensche

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Now I'm not certain about what you all know of the übermensche. If you're the kind of person who thinks that you can recite the words "marxism", "propaganda", "nazi", "Hitler" and a couple of other words and just say that they have "something" to do with WWII, then this probably isn't for you. Now if you think that the übermensche was used to spread nazi propaganda, then this isn't for you either.

Now I can't confirm this from my own knowledge, because I am not German and do not speak the language, but "übermensche" literally means "overman". In English, "übermensche" has been interpreted to "superman", which is not incorrect, but "overman" is more specific to what the übermensche is. Now if you believe that the übermensche was used to spread Nazi propaganda, I do sympathize with you; I've heard that version, too.

What I learned in highschool was simply that the übermensche was the "next evolution of man", in that any flaw that a normal human being has, the übermensche has not. Let's say that you had to choose whether to take the trash out, or stall because you're feeling lazy. The übermensche wouldn't even give it a second thought-- he'd take the trash out. The übermensche is also incapable of feeling jelous, and is incapable of being selfish. In fact, there is a great many things that the übermensche is not capable of-- but chiefly, he is not capable of feeling emotions.

So what does all of this have anything to do with the "tilted living" board? Well, here's the deal: I've been trying to become the übermensche ever since I learned of the idea. Of course, I'm not trying to model myself after the exact description of what I was told that the übermensche is, but instead I'm trying to become my own interpretation of this being. I heard somewhere that Fiona Apple lost sexual interest in both genders and now is non-sexual. I don't know if this is true, but I've been working towards this. By sheer coincidence, I have a female friend who is also forcing herself to be this same way, and she's no fool. She gratuated salutatorian of our highschool class with a GPA of 99.7, with plenty of AP-level courses. Could it be that the more one evolves spiritually, the more one realizes that sexuality is a brutish thing? I've spoken with her quite a bit, and am good friends with her. I even tried hooking it up with her twice in the past year, and both times she refused. I wonder if anyone else can understand this to any degree? Now, let me just say that if you suddenly feel the strong need to insult me, then everything I have just said went completely over your head, or you are simply too imature to try to see things through another person's point of view. Now don't get me wrong; I'm not preaching that this is the right thing to do, or that it is the next stage in human evolution-- how can it be the next stage of human evolution if such a thing would be genocidal? All I am saying is that I am trying to rid myself of my desire to feel sexual gratification, and my desire to be with someone intimately, and my need to be selfish and uncaring and misunderstanding. Is all of this self-contradictory? It sure sounds like it, doesn't it? I'm still sorting through all of these things. One can never be 100%, not even the übermensche... or can he...?
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