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Old 05-01-2011, 08:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
Orogun01
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Originally Posted by cypher197 View Post
I have yet to see, or hear, of a mathematical proof that the particular reality my senses are witnessing is not a simulation. This is new information to me. Do you have a link to it?
Something I saw on the TV, I would have too see if I can find it. It relates to the multiverse theory gaining a new foothold in the world of science.

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Actually, the usefulness of something as a means towards an ends is an objective value. We can make estimates of that usefulness; these estimates are subjectively determined.
Regardless, I have to meet anyone with a perfect control of their emotions, so external actions can and do affect their state. In order for external events not to affect someone's emotional state, they would have to not have any effect on that emotional state, even by causing thoughts that can change that emotional state.
Emotions are not actions, even someone that knew not how to be stoic would still have reason to fall back on. Even if they don't realize it they are still making a choice, assigning a value, and creating the mold of their future reactions.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "measure the greater good of the majority with evil".
If it's what I think you mean, just about every case that apparently punishes some minority that I've seen, where the minority isn't some group like criminals where the punishment is being locked up to prevent them from harming others, resulted from a rather shallow analysis of the consequences.

And, this theory does extend to other realities, or at least other realities where it's actually possible to implement it.
I should have said "against the evil it will cause"
The problem with this regard comes in the implementation, not the philosophy. Because of the separation between these realities; or our own perspective on existence, we are bound to act morally on our self interest before that of the rest. Just because our perception of these realities it's flawed, and their objective value it's minimal.

This is part of the problem with an moral theory that it always comes back to objective reality. Because ethics is set to determine the right course of living, it will be related to actions. So the least that a moral theory for realities would require it's knowledge of consequences across them.
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