View Single Post
Old 03-26-2011, 10:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
dlish
Currently sour but formerly Dlishs
 
dlish's Avatar
 
Super Moderator
Location: Australia/UAE
Non English speakers in the West

im curious what TFPers think of Non english speakers speaking in their mother tongue in public in a western country.

Do 'westerners' find it rude/insulting/racist if someone was speaking to someone else in their own language?

if you are insulted, why would you be insulted?

I know that many western countries are now in the process of implementing or have implemented citizenship tests for migrants. i think that's a great thing. if you want to migrate to another country and exploit its generosity without giving back, then you need not apply.

However, what if someone did pass all the labguage tests, the history and culture tests, and has all the relevant qualifications as well as a job. If this particular person was speaking in public in their own language, i dare say some people would find it insulting, despite the fact that this person has a right to be in the country as much as the next person. some people would even go as far as confronting the person and asking them to speak in english or 'go back to your own country'. ive heard this term many a times in australia, especially as a kid when the arabic community wasnt especially big in Sydney 30 years ago. We were called 'wogs' and 'dago's' for looking different, even though my mother was fluent in 3 languages, and my father 5.

i know that members of my family including my wife have been abused for not looking the part during major world events like 911. The truth be told, she speaks better english and arabic than i do. she speaks on talkback radio giving free nutritional advice to the arabic community at large in her own time, but an undercurrent of racisms still exists in many parts of the west and it rears its ugly head whenever the next big news story pops on the front page.

'We' as first and generation australians are expected to fit the australian mould, which most have done successfully for the most part. I then look at expat westerners who live in the middle east who have come to reap the rewards of an expat life, but do nothing to learn the language, learn its culture, history or understand its people. i see a disparity between these two cultures. Here in Dubai, almost everything is in english. every sign board accomodates to the westerner, every government official is bilingual if not trilingual, every shop conducts its business in english. Its a part of life, and no one finds it offensive when someone speaks another language. This is truely a cosmopolitan city where the lines of culture is blurred. where indians, arabs, africans, westerners, asians, and euorpean kids all learn about each other in the same classroom.

i compare this with the curriculum when i went to school where all the multicultural kids would be grouped in one class to attend 'special english classes' even though i was the best speller in my class. i never understood why they'd ask me to go learn english with a bunch of other migrant kids who also spoke perfect english. ironically, we would spend an hour playing musical instruments instead of learning english.

now that i am thinking about heading back home after a good stint in the middle east ( yes australia is home) i am having second thoughts about going back. Will my kids be treated the same way that i was treated when i was a kid? will they be considered outcasts because they're not westerners? will they be singled out because of their names? This is also taking into mind that i will be teaching my kids arabic at every opportunity outside of the school curriculum, as well as speaking to them in public in arabic and other places.

I guess what i fear the most is having someone confront me for being less australian than they are, when i consider myself australian wherever i live.

are people really racist deep down? or is it the fear of the unknown?
__________________
An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere

I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay?
- Filthy
dlish is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360