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Old 12-30-2010, 03:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
The_Dunedan
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Someone with my knowledge can tell you the velocity per square inch of a certain bullet
Since "velocity per square inch" is a non-existent measure, your "knowledge" is as usual highly suspect. Velocity is measured in feet/meters-per-second, impact force is measured in pounds-feet, pressure is measured in pound/kilograms per square inch/centimeter. You appear to have ceased pulling definitions out of your ass, and moved to pulling definitions out of the Bass-O-Matic.

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Someone with common sense
Which you have proven in the past not to possess...

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that within the confines of your house, if you own a gun to scare away burgulars or in the worst possible case shoot at one, a .32 calibre gun doesnt make much difference to to a .40 calibre one.
...and have just proven to have made no investment in. Look. You don't use a gun to scare somebody. That's called "brandishing," and is both stupid and illegal. And yes: .32 vs .40 makes a big difference. Bigger holes let out more blood. Bigger bullets traumatize more tissue. This is elementary, basic, -actual- common sense.

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Anyone with the slightest bit of sense can tell you that where you shoot someone is the biggest factor in how badly hurt they will likely to be. A shot in the head will usually be fatal, a shot in the knee usually wont be.
Congratulations, Strange, you've just made your first-ever sensible post in Tilted Weaponry.

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I dont believe that the OP was asking for advise on how to kill people. He was asking for advise about whether a .32 was a suitable weapon for his wife to have in the bedside cabinet for self defence...
The ability (and comparative abilities) of a weapon or weapons to deliver an instantly incapacitating blow or injury is central to the suitability of that weapon for defensive purposes. If a round cannot reliably penetrate to reach the vital organs, it is unsuitable. Period.

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Whether it will penetrate 18 inches into the flesh of a human being or 15 inches - while interesting to people who have a technical fascination with guns - isnt relevant to the question.
It is absolutely relevant. If I am forced to shoot a 300lb footbal hooligan, a round which can only penetrate 8-10" of flesh is not going to reach his vital organs and will not reliably -stop- him from aggressing against me. It will produce a painful surface wound and will bleed a little, but that's all. Only damage to vital organs, -severe- damage to load-bearing bones, or damage to the central nervous system will reliably -stop- an attacker before he can inflict harm or worsen the harm already inflicted. Swift exanguination helps, which is why we advise customers who carry/buy the .32ACP Kel-Tec pistol to load with high-velocity hollowpoints, invest in a 10rd magazine, and DUMP THE MAG if they ever have to fire the weapon. A whole bunch of .32 holes will work around-about as well as 2-3 .40 holes, even if they don't all get into the "boiler room."

Bear in mind, Strange, that you shoot somebody to stop them from what they're doing. Frequently this means killing them: nothing else will suffice. Look up the effects of PCP, Methamphetamine, drunkenness and adrenaline overload if you don't believe me.

But then, that would require you to give credence to the reality-informed opinions of experts and the demonstrable facts of life, both of which you've been stubbornly disinclined to do in the past.


As for the OP: with proper loadings, the .32 S&W is capable of being a quite useful little round. Penetration is good, recoil is light enough for women and the elderly to use it without a problem, and with correct shot-placement it will certainly get the job done. The "Mozambique double-tap" is excellent practice with any round, but essential with these lighter-weight pills.
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--Strange Famous, advocating the use of falsified charges in order to shut people up.

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