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Old 11-20-2010, 03:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Concealed Carry on Campus: Giant White Tees and Shooters with ESP

Goddamnit, TFP. Screw you and your fucking "expired token" bullshit. I just lost a super-gnarly 2-3 page entry. I'm going to have to add/edit this like 438 more times now.

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Context:

Concealed carry permit holders packing pistols on campus is a hot topic at US universities these day, especially whenever Virginia Tech is mentioned.

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First the classroom shooter "science experiment" videos:



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Now, for the hot-hot TFP debate points:
  • Training level of the CCW Good Guy vs. Police Bad Guy
  • Clothing/equipment of the CCW Good Guy
  • Location of the CCW Good Guy in the room
  • Psychic ability of the Police Bad Guy
  • "Reaction" of the "classmates" in the room

...AND MORE!

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My initial thoughts?

What a piece of shit journalism pegged at convincing anti-gunners that "bad guys are unstoppable" and "why should we try to defend ourselves?"

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My Devil's Advocate'd thoughts?

Sheah, right! That's going to go real well with keg stands, emo kids and frat functions.

The reality of allowing college students to pack guns on campus is a scary. I have no illusions.

"Dude, you seen my Glock?" BLAM-BLAM "Hey, brah, I think it's over there by the bong."

I am not comfortable with the level of training that it takes the average person to get a CCW.

Until the training requirements and credentialing system are improved, keep Seniors unarmed.

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I had a concealed carry permit long before I attended college (non-traditional student) and occasionally thought about how defenseless we all were against a VT-style shooting scenario. My best course of action would have been to chuck a desk and barricade the door. As with most mass shootings, the victims choosing to lay down and die is what gets them killed in droves. One student with a pistol could have stopped the VT shooting quite easily.

The problem, of course, is who.

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This is my opinion even after spending two semesters dealing intensely with the Virginia Tech shooting (law enforcement degree), including memorizing the 300+ page report, examining documents and hearing things that didn't make it into the report as well as talking with family members of those killed.

Guns are good a solution, but putting them in the right hands (those trustworthy and able) remains a huge problem.

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