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Plan9 · 08-11-2010, 07:14 AM

Lemme play Devil's advocate for a moment with the "Muh propertah!" thing.

Okay, I get it. But I'm having a hard time coming up with a situation where it would be a mega huge issue for someone to have a CCW on another person's property. Delivery person? Coworker? Baby shower? Best friend's weekly O'Douls-fueled poker match? I think the premise of this thread is that you're either around people you can trust (within limits) or strangers you can't. The legality of it varies from state to state (always confusing).

The real issue with the whole "my property" thing is trespassing, not packing a gun, no? Gun is an issue, but dude shouldn't be there in the first place.

I don't go to many houses or step onto property unless I've either got some type of business there (where I think it's okay for me to be armed) or I know the person well (where I don't think its an issue because the threat level consists of running out of beer or stepping on Lego bricks).

Another logic-based issue relates to the fact that the possession of a concealed handgun permit means that Joe Average is attempting to arm himself legally. Criminals don't go out for concealed carry cards because, well, they don't give two shits about the law. While at least half of those out there with concealed handgun permits shouldn't have them (based on weapon handling skills alone), they're probably not criminals and have 1% use intention.

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Also: "USP Compact" is an oxymoron.

08-11-2010, 07:14 AM	#18 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Lemme play Devil's advocate for a moment with the "Muh propertah!" thing. Okay, I get it. But I'm having a hard time coming up with a situation where it would be a mega huge issue for someone to have a CCW on another person's property. Delivery person? Coworker? Baby shower? Best friend's weekly O'Douls-fueled poker match? I think the premise of this thread is that you're either around people you can trust (within limits) or strangers you can't. The legality of it varies from state to state (always confusing). The real issue with the whole "my property" thing is trespassing, not packing a gun, no? Gun is an issue, but dude shouldn't be there in the first place. I don't go to many houses or step onto property unless I've either got some type of business there (where I think it's okay for me to be armed) or I know the person well (where I don't think its an issue because the threat level consists of running out of beer or stepping on Lego bricks). Another logic-based issue relates to the fact that the possession of a concealed handgun permit means that Joe Average is attempting to arm himself legally. Criminals don't go out for concealed carry cards because, well, they don't give two shits about the law. While at least half of those out there with concealed handgun permits shouldn't have them (based on weapon handling skills alone), they're probably not criminals and have 1% use intention. ... Also: "USP Compact" is an oxymoron. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 08-11-2010 at 07:59 AM..